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    Default Re: Oleksandr Usyk v Daniel Dubois

    I think the whole world needs CT scans of Usyk's balls to confirm what really happened on Saturday

    I mean. He did come into the ring like this......



    At the end of the fight I reckon Fury running to the phone like



    To make the fight happen in 2024.

    But Usyk is like the Frankenstein combination of Cunningham and Wallin, Fury's two toughest fights ever - only ten times the fighter those two put together. He is quite literally the worst possible stylistic matchup for Fury.

    At his core, Fury is a partier.

    He feels like he's done the hard work and now it's time to lay back and suck up the gravy. To beat Usyk you have to get yourself in TREMENDOUS cardiovascular shape. That means five and ten mile runs, rowing, hills run, cycling, punching the heavy bag HARD for 20 mins non stop and do old school "catch the chicken" routines, like in Rocky to improve your footwork



    And if even if he Fury does all that ? He can never have the output and keep on the pace of Usyk. As it was shown in Dubois / Joshua / Bellew fights. Usyk slowly goes through the gears, and his opponents don't have the answer and get tired. While Fury has good cardio, he always needs to tie/hold/clinch to save his breath. And he won't be able to do that against Usyk. Fury's his only hope to be as dirty as possible, and he knows it. But with the right ref, this won't be allowed. Fury won't knock him out, so he'll have to be extremely......EXTREMELY fit and he very rarely is.

    Even at the top of his game this is probably a 60/40 in Usyk's favour.

    OK onto THAT punch.

    It's was below the belt

    It's not on the belt. It's not above the belt. This whole glove is below the belt.

    And that by definition is a low blow. You just can't debate it. You can’t hit below the belly button… it doesn’t need to be the balls like some people think. Plus Usyk wears his shorts relatively low compared to other fighters.

    Ref's instructions made it clear that hitting anywhere on the trunks was illegal. They made it clear that punches must land above the trunks. If a fighter's trunks were worn too high the ref must inform the fighters of that, but Usyk's wasn't. Dubois punch was on Usyk shorts, not a single part of it even touch Usyk skin.



    Having said that

    Tom Sharkey had his ribs broken and battered until they pierced his skin, leaving a permanent scar on his ribcage, against James J. Jeffries.



    Despite this, he still kept attacking until the end of the 25 round fight. He also weighed 185 to Jeffries' 210. I do think Usyk took advantage of the situation to the max.

    Daniel Dubois ?

    I can understand why he quit against Joyce, makes sense. His orbital was broken so why risk your eye for no belts? Come again, die another day.

    But here,
    • He wasn’t injured
    • He got knocked down by a jab
    • Three belts on the line
    • Once in a lifetime opportunity
    • Could have made the count
    • Didn't even protest being waved off

    He went down tenderly as if he was preserving himself. Wasn't off balance at all. Just casually takes a step away, bends over and puts his hands to the ground. Something is seriously off there.

    Adversity breeds strength of will. Just like anything it has to be learned and if he hasn't experienced that adversity before then he's never developed that ability to cope with adversity when he suddenly faced with it and instead of just gritting it out until the end......... he chose to quit.

    My thinking is that he isn’t pushed in training and sparring. Getting your ass beat or going through adversity in your development results in having more resolve. And add in that he’s had a strange upbringing. He was home-schooled since 13 by his dad, in the hopes of becoming a professional boxer. Most fighters/people, have a life and something that anchors them. With Dubois, I see a guy who’s not a fully fledged person

    He just is not world level. He is a fairly decent domestic/European level fighter.

    In a very real sense there is no shame in that. He is a real pro boxer.
    Last edited by Denilson3.0; 08-30-2023 at 06:39 PM.

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