Canelo Álvarez v Jermell Charlo September Thirtieth

[TIC]

Been watching the promotion of this and have to admit I am falling in love with this fight. I hope Charlo can pull off the upset. That is how they suck you into this event by the hype.

It’s not a bad fight. I happen to think Canelo is on the slide a touch and it’s gonna be difficult to match him up with any “dead certs.”
I always thought Charlo was a big LMW, a bit of a beast infact, and Canelo a small SMW , so the weight issue isn’t a massive deal.
But his inactivity could well be a problem.
I think he’s had a couple of disappointing displays in the past, but if he isn’t prepared for the biggest fight of his career , I’d be very surprised.
Gonna stop short of predicting the upset, but it wouldn’t surprise me.

i also think it's a good fight. the weight issue is only a massive deal to haters or those with an agenda. jermell could already have been at one sixty like his twin has been for the last six years. i really liked how jermell looked in the rematch with brian castano. i agree with you about the inactivity. guys coming into big fights recently off long periods of inactivity haven't faired to well

[TIC]

frank sanchez is supposed to be on the card

[TitoFan]

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/09...ermell-charlo/

"Canelo Alvarez Predicting “Big Win For Mexico” Over Jermell Charlo"

September 13th, 2023 - Add a comment By Sean Jones: Canelo Alvarez sees himself picking up a “big win for Mexico” when he faces Jermell Charlo this month on Showtime pay-per-view. Canelo (59-2-2, 39 KOs) Charlo and his brother Jermall have been talking a lot, and he can’t wait to show his “skills” inside the ring on September 30th to prove them wrong.

It’s going to be a moral victory on Jermell’s part if he’s able to go 12 rounds with Canelo or if he’s able to beat him. That’s why it’s never a good idea for a well-known fighter to cherry-pick guys from weight classes below them, particularly when you’re talking about two or three. Even if Canelo beats Jermell (35-1-1,19 KOs), it won’t prove that he can beat ‘Big Charlo,’ Jermall (32-0,22 KOs), the guy that he was originally supposed to fight.

Beating Jermell will only give undisputed super middleweight champion Canelo partial credit because he fights two divisions below him at 154, and in the eyes of fans, this is just another example of the Mexican star hand-picking an easier opponent while ducking the guys he should be fighting at 168 & 175.

Canelo ducking these murderers row fighter:

David Benavidez
Dmitry Bivol
David Morrell Jr.
Artur Beterbiev
Demetrius Andrade

“I still feel young & fresh, and I never think about the end of my career. I just train and fight every year, and I feel great. I think it’s one of my greatest camps ever had,” said Canelo Alvarez to Premier Boxing Champions. “I’m glad I’m able to train 100% now with my left hand. You see a little bit, and that’s made me feel confident because when you’re 100%, you feel confident. When you train knowing your 100%, you feel confident in the fight.

“Right now, I feel great. I feel like a beast. He’s good for 168,” said Canelo about Jermell. “I did that before. I jumped two weight classes, and I think when you’re a great champion, it doesn’t matter. “This fight motivates me a lot. On September 30th, I’m going to show them why I’m here. The Mexicans need to feel so proud about it. I don’t know what kind of boxing [Jermell] will bring that night.

“I don’t know if he’s going to come forward or move, but I don’t care to because I fight with a lot of styles, and I have the experience to adapt to every style. “I can do everything in the ring and adapt to any style. It’s going to be a great fight, but I expect a big win for Mexico.

You gotta hand it to Ginger, trying to talk up the fight. Nothing he can say erases the fact that he's gonna be fighting a guy not one weight division below him... but TWO WEIGHT DIVISIONS BELOW HIM. Meanwhile, he conveniently ignores those who can knock his red-headed ass out. Bivol already took him to school, even though the judges cards would lead you to think differently. Personally I'm still pissed at Bivol for not knocking the Ginger out of Canelo.

Let's face it... Canelo will NEVER face any of the guys listed above. He's a cherry-picking chickenshit, who will ride off into the sunset after a career of manufactured fights.
What a punk...
Can't wait till he leaves boxing.

[ykdadamaja]

Been seeing some training footage of Charlo. He looks GREAT. This will not be an easy night for Canelo and there is a slight chance Charlo may nip this one. I still have Canelo by a 10th/11th round TKO.

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[Master]

Canelo not a great skipper but says he is 100% ready.

[Denilson3.0]

When I first heard of this fight I was hyped because I thought it was "mall" not "mell". Now I know it's "mell" then the fight is bullshyt. "Mell" hasn't fought in 2 years and he's never fought at 168. So here we have "mell" skipping a whole division with no time to develop a 168 body or fights to acclimate to that size.

I haven’t heard one non-boxing fan talking about this fight. The All Access has been on YouTube damn near 5 days and only done a million views yesterday. Spence/Crawford All Access did that in a day.

Canelo knocks out "mell" then "mall" comes to avenge his brother

[Master]

Jermell Charlo fought May 2022 which is less than 2 years ago. It was a very good performance and unified the division.

Jermall Charlo has not fought since June 2021 which is over 2 years ago. His latest video he is training with Roy Jones. He has had legal, injury and emotional issues that would not allow him to be ready for Canelo.

[Denilson3.0]

Jermell Charlo fought May 2022 which is less than 2 years ago. It was a very good performance and unified the division.

Jermall Charlo has not fought since June 2021 which is over 2 years ago. His latest video he is training with Roy Jones. He has had legal, injury and emotional issues that would not allow him to be ready for Canelo.

Oh ok. So both Charlo's are pretty inactive then ? OK. I just thought it was "mell"

[Master]

Jermell Charlo fought May 2022 which is less than 2 years ago. It was a very good performance and unified the division.

Jermall Charlo has not fought since June 2021 which is over 2 years ago. His latest video he is training with Roy Jones. He has had legal, injury and emotional issues that would not allow him to be ready for Canelo.

Oh ok. So both Charlo's are pretty inactive then ? OK. I just thought it was "mell"

You could argue Jermell is avoiding Tszyu but he has generally been active.

Jermall has not defended his title in over 2 years as WBC have "supported" him. He really looks a mess at the moment and not ready for Canelo which is why he turned the opportunity down. He seemed to imply he would get another opportunity against Canelo in the future.

[Big J]

When I first heard of this fight I was hyped because I thought it was "mall" not "mell". Now I know it's "mell" then the fight is bullshyt. "Mell" hasn't fought in 2 years and he's never fought at 168. So here we have "mell" skipping a whole division with no time to develop a 168 body or fights to acclimate to that size.

I haven’t heard one non-boxing fan talking about this fight. The All Access has been on YouTube damn near 5 days and only done a million views yesterday. Spence/Crawford All Access did that in a day.

Canelo knocks out "mell" then "mall" comes to avenge his brother

You are confusing your Charlo's
It's easy to do
I've always thought 'Mell was the better boxer
If it wasn't for his "injury" & followed inactivity
I think he'd be on most peoples P4P list
Personally I think too much has been made of the weight difference
Clearly "Mell is not small next to Canelo

[TitoFan]

When I first heard of this fight I was hyped because I thought it was "mall" not "mell". Now I know it's "mell" then the fight is bullshyt. "Mell" hasn't fought in 2 years and he's never fought at 168. So here we have "mell" skipping a whole division with no time to develop a 168 body or fights to acclimate to that size.

I haven’t heard one non-boxing fan talking about this fight. The All Access has been on YouTube damn near 5 days and only done a million views yesterday. Spence/Crawford All Access did that in a day.

Canelo knocks out "mell" then "mall" comes to avenge his brother

You are confusing your Charlo's
It's easy to do
I've always thought 'Mell was the better boxer
If it wasn't for his "injury" & followed inactivity
I think he'd be on most peoples P4P list
Personally I think too much has been made of the weight difference
Clearly "Mell is not small next to Canelo

I respectfully disagree. I think not enough is made of the weight difference. Jermell has fought at 154 or below his entire career. His record is 35-1-1 with 19 knockouts. Not exactly power numbers... against much smaller guys than Canelo. So it's obvious he's got NO chance to beat Canelo by TKO. Which leaves an opponent dancing around for 12 rounds, hoping not to get caught. It's what happened to Khan. It's what happened to GGG the 3rd time around. Canelo's not the boxing god everyone thinks he is... but he's no bum... and he's got an excellent chin. Knowing he's got nothing to worry about is going to allow him to forget a little about defense and press Charlo relentlessly. There's NO way the fight goes the 12 rounds... and everyone's gonna look at it as some remarkable achievement. When in reality it's just Canelo doing what he was supposed to do. A decision win for Canelo would be a HUGE moral defeat for him. Anything less than a mid to late round KO is an underachievement... and I'm gonna repeat that as many times as I can between now and the fight.

[ykdadamaja]

When I first heard of this fight I was hyped because I thought it was "mall" not "mell". Now I know it's "mell" then the fight is bullshyt. "Mell" hasn't fought in 2 years and he's never fought at 168. So here we have "mell" skipping a whole division with no time to develop a 168 body or fights to acclimate to that size.

I haven’t heard one non-boxing fan talking about this fight. The All Access has been on YouTube damn near 5 days and only done a million views yesterday. Spence/Crawford All Access did that in a day.

Canelo knocks out "mell" then "mall" comes to avenge his brother

You are confusing your Charlo's
It's easy to do
I've always thought 'Mell was the better boxer
If it wasn't for his "injury" & followed inactivity
I think he'd be on most peoples P4P list
Personally I think too much has been made of the weight difference
Clearly "Mell is not small next to Canelo

I respectfully disagree. I think not enough is made of the weight difference. Jermell has fought at 154 or below his entire career. His record is 35-1-1 with 19 knockouts. Not exactly power numbers... against much smaller guys than Canelo. So it's obvious he's got NO chance to beat Canelo by TKO. Which leaves an opponent dancing around for 12 rounds, hoping not to get caught. It's what happened to Khan. It's what happened to GGG the 3rd time around. Canelo's not the boxing god everyone thinks he is... but he's no bum... and he's got an excellent chin. Knowing he's got nothing to worry about is going to allow him to forget a little about defense and press Charlo relentlessly. There's NO way the fight goes the 12 rounds... and everyone's gonna look at it as some remarkable achievement. When in reality it's just Canelo doing what he was supposed to do. A decision win for Canelo would be a HUGE moral defeat for him. Anything less than a mid to late round KO is an underachievement... and I'm gonna repeat that as many times as I can between now and the fight.

For the same reasons why I have Canelo by 10th round tko, at least. Mell's corner will look at Canelo start to pour it in at about the 6th and not let up as he walks through Charlo... It's gonna get real messy after about 7 or 8 and Charlo's corner will have to stop it to save him.

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[Big J]

When I first heard of this fight I was hyped because I thought it was "mall" not "mell". Now I know it's "mell" then the fight is bullshyt. "Mell" hasn't fought in 2 years and he's never fought at 168. So here we have "mell" skipping a whole division with no time to develop a 168 body or fights to acclimate to that size.

I haven’t heard one non-boxing fan talking about this fight. The All Access has been on YouTube damn near 5 days and only done a million views yesterday. Spence/Crawford All Access did that in a day.

Canelo knocks out "mell" then "mall" comes to avenge his brother

You are confusing your Charlo's
It's easy to do
I've always thought 'Mell was the better boxer
If it wasn't for his "injury" & followed inactivity
I think he'd be on most peoples P4P list
Personally I think too much has been made of the weight difference
Clearly "Mell is not small next to Canelo

I respectfully disagree. I think not enough is made of the weight difference. Jermell has fought at 154 or below his entire career. His record is 35-1-1 with 19 knockouts. Not exactly power numbers... against much smaller guys than Canelo. So it's obvious he's got NO chance to beat Canelo by TKO. Which leaves an opponent dancing around for 12 rounds, hoping not to get caught. It's what happened to Khan. It's what happened to GGG the 3rd time around. Canelo's not the boxing god everyone thinks he is... but he's no bum... and he's got an excellent chin. Knowing he's got nothing to worry about is going to allow him to forget a little about defense and press Charlo relentlessly. There's NO way the fight goes the 12 rounds... and everyone's gonna look at it as some remarkable achievement. When in reality it's just Canelo doing what he was supposed to do. A decision win for Canelo would be a HUGE moral defeat for him. Anything less than a mid to late round KO is an underachievement... and I'm gonna repeat that as many times as I can between now and the fight.

I really think Charlo goes the distance
I'm even tempted to pick the upset