Who is next for Canelo?

[Spicoli]

naoya getting a pass for tj doheny & sam goodman el oh el

Who said anything about an Inoue. But I suppose it says something that he serves as Canelos whataboutism now. Wasn't a soul here that didn't know it was just a matter of time for TJ going in. And at least Goodman beat a Ring top 5 to climb up a bit. Guess we can spot Munguia Ryder lol with the fact Canelo had to pound out him first. Derevyanchenko still serviceable and brought Munguia to the brink of defeat even if coming up in weight.

Basic difference is no one is highlighting their records as credibility for Inoue. No need. That's the point Canelo is at. Safe to say Inoue has (and will take *cough cough) some huge match ups in front of him. Canelo, he's worried about his tee time now.

i said something about naoya because you were going on about canelo's opponents records & sam goodman & tj doheny aren't much better. basic difference is canelo is fighting these guys at the end part of his career

Well yeh it's a Canelo thread and he's the topic so seemed fit to respond to what you're putting out in it, so there's that . And Canelo fought plenty of these type of guys with his stacked A side in said career, let's just be real now .

[TIC]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

[Spicoli]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

[TIC]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

the same energy for naoya's filler fights as you do for canelo's. just checked & yeah nothing from you in the naoya v sam thread. who's pretending a fighter is flawless & who is refusing to call out the bad? edgar deserved a shot just as much as sam does. no one is flaunting his record as an achievement or credential. i just posted the record of canelo's last three opponents

[TitoFan]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

the same energy for naoya's filler fights as you do for canelo's. just checked & yeah nothing from you in the naoya v sam thread. who's pretending a fighter is flawless & who is refusing to call out the bad? edgar deserved a shot just as much as sam does. no one is flaunting his record as an achievement or credential. i just posted the record of canelo's last three opponents

What you're doing is flaunting your Canelo fanboyism by reaching as far as you can. Even daring to mention probably the #1 p4p fighter in the world right now in a pathetic effort to draw some sort of comparison with your boy.

That's laughable, even by your poor standards.

[TIC]

spicoli focused on canelo's last two opponents, i just like to see consistency & the same energy applied to all fighters

[TitoFan]

spicoli focused on canelo's last two opponents, i just like to see consistency & the same energy applied to all fighters

But you used those two opponents to somehow make your case for Canelo. Nobody else is doing the same with other fighters. Since you mentioned Inoue, it goes without saying there's a universe of difference between the two. Inoue has not conducted his career in nowhere near the same fashion as Canelo. Which is why I say they shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence.

Too bad I didn't post a picture I saw on Facebook here. (Now I can't find it). It was a picture of JCC, JMM, Erik Morales, MAB, and I think Finito. I remember thinking how those are truly past great Mexican champions. All had losses (except Finito)... and none of them gave a damn about that. They're Mexican ATG's... and all have in common the bond of having taken on ALL challengers... diva clauses or marinating fights be damned. Inoue is of that old-style mold. That he may have one or two undeserving opponents in his resume? Yeah, so what. He didn't seek to place those there because he was avoiding someone else. I miss that type of fighter.

[TIC]

i posted the record of canelo's last three opponents with no comment, good or bad, just their total. you are imagining some case i made. the thread is about canelo. no one is stopping anyone else from posting the records of another fighters last three opponents. naoya doesn't have the same a-side luxury canelo has but he does enjoy some a-side luxuries. i wish he fought some of the guys at superfly while he was there

canelo doesn't care about losses. he fought the number one pound for pound in the world when his best win at the time was austin trout, he took on the next biggest threat erislandy, he took an immediate rematch with ggg who many thought beat him in the first fight, fought danny jacobs who many thought beat ggg, ran through three unbeaten super middleweight champions in eleven months, then moved up to challenge arguably the best light heavyweight

it's a pity naoya didn't run the one fifteen gauntlet at the time

it's also a pity jmm never fought naseem or erik

[Spicoli]

so you had the same energy for naoya in another thread? every fighter has filler fights, let's just be real now

What same energy?! You did this before with the Munguia fight saying I called it complete trash and dismissed it or something to that effect. Then I showed you otherwise. If you care to look back said both Munguia and TJ would be decent "entertaining" type fights but not great, before it was all over for them. Same energy is quite easy when you don't pretend a fighter is flawless and refuse to call out on the bad.

Seriously. The record of Berlanga and getting the fight was a running joke among nearly all. Absent the most ardent fanboys. And even the majority called BS on it. It was actually refreshing . Flaunting his record as some achievement or credential for Canelo is with respect, bonkers.

the same energy for naoya's filler fights as you do for canelo's. just checked & yeah nothing from you in the naoya v sam thread. who's pretending a fighter is flawless & who is refusing to call out the bad? edgar deserved a shot just as much as sam does. no one is flaunting his record as an achievement or credential. i just posted the record of canelo's last three opponents

”I just checked and nothing from you” . Jebus Christmas dude, do you hear yourself sometimes? What am I on a time clock or quota system to post on your schedule lol. About something no one initiated or even brought up but you. You’ve gone from casual deflection or subject change to making it a job now

Dude. You posted making the records of Munguia and Berlanga a topic and highlight for Canelo. YOU did that. To which you got replies and responses. But instead of discussing the point YOU brought up, ya pull something completely out of left field to do some round about comparison. How about you worry about your consistency before you sit on a mount checking everyone else’s. I told you a page or two ago, at least Goodman...as with Munguia...actually defeated a Ring top contender. Though, his was #3. I put more cred in its rankings than I do some alphabet soup group politicking a running joke of a fighter (ie Berlanga) who contrary to what you you say has done nothing of the sort. Not even remotely close. Ffs I’ve actually giving Munguia some credit allllll along but you’re just determined to spin things into something else. Rinse and repeat.

[TIC]

i posted the total of canelo's last three opponents. you commented about two of them & i asked if you had the same energy for naoya's. is my post not their total records? stop making things up. what have i said about edgar? & you were quick to comment on canelo's last two but nothing on naoya v sam so i pointed it out. if you don't like the records of canelo's last three opponents that's on you, unfortunately that is what the records are

[TIC]

[TitoFan]

i posted the record of canelo's last three opponents with no comment, good or bad, just their total. you are imagining some case i made.

Really?

So you just up and posted the records of those fighters for no particular reason or purpose?

Ok.

This gets better by the minute.

[TIC]

i posted canelo's last three opponents record total because that is what the total is. naoya's last three with sam will be eighty & five

[TitoFan]

This shit is priceless...

I had previously posted a quote from De La Hoya regarding Canelo.

Here's a recent one from Andre Ward...






Here's the translation:

"The problem with Canelo Alvarez is not only the stain of (avoiding) Benavidez, but bigger things that have happened with him throughout his career.

The problem also arises when he begins to say he's one of the greatest in history, or one of the greatest Mexicans of all time, and that is NOT true.

He's a great of marketing, of creating a base of followers, of selling tickets. When you see his history you become aware that he does not take risks; he picks his rivals, some are already old, he chooses others because it is the opportune moment, he chooses others that are 2 weight divisions below, etc."

MANY former fighters know what Canelo really is: A FRAUD.

[TIC]

there are many fighters that praise canelo