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It was the Angulo crapola where I first opened my eyes to Canelos's -these are not the droids you're looking for- powers of manipulation.

I'm not ruling out a Plant rematch either . If/when he can uproot Scull. Can just see Canelo wanting that trinket back and then the barking of "multi time undisputed' begins.



I just don't remember any other great fighter ever getting the mass criticism of their career from former fighters, that Canelo gets.

The list is long:

Tim Bradley
JMM
ODLH
Andre Ward
Erik Morales

Even Mexican journalists, like Majo Gonzalez. Also guys like David Faitelson, ESPN Deportes analyst.

SHIT... even famed Mexican trainer Nacho Beristain has criticized how Canelo has conducted and still conducts his career, with all the picking and choosing and marinating and ducking.


Hell... no current or former fighter is universally liked or admired.

Take someone like Floyd. People thoroughly disliked him. But many of them disliked him for his personality and his conduct outside the ring. Yeah... some claim he ducked certain fighters.

Damn... ALL fighters get accused of ducking sooner or later.



But with Canelo it is an almost universal dislike of how he has carefully manufactured and hyped his career.

You see pictures of past Mexican champions posing for a picture..... I've never seen Canelo in any one of them. Even if he's still fighting. It's not like they couldn't invite him if they wanted to.

No. They want to preserve the warrior mentality and "face all challengers" attitude that all of them had.



Ginger is a FRAUD. Pure and simple. As far as I'm concerned, he can't retire soon enough.

I don't even give a damn whether he ever fights Benavidez or not. That ship has sailed.
You know what really sucks about it. Other than tying up the belts and division natural progression of course. It's that in a big way the lineage was broken by Canelo in this era. As far as top division "king" giving back or even passing it on at 160-168 etc. You can say Golovkin did that for Canelo, once twice at 160. Those are passing of the torch type division/era progress for Canelo but he just shut down shop once he went to 168 where a legit threat and "next" Benavidez was Rings #1 and was right there. David was literally #1 for 5 years as ol Canelo just worked around him like a kid sneaking back into the house after midnight trying not to wake up the parents. Belts smelts. The best guys got tired of waiting on the diva to sac up and sort it out for 168, win or lose or rematch. Tip toe thru the tulips Nelo.
I’ve said this before, I am not a Canelo fanboy by any stretch of the imagination, but we need a bit of perspective here.
Canelo is not an ATG, never will be be. He’s an ok World champion who has had a good career, but like most modern day sportsmen has been overhyped to make up for a general lack of quality.
He takes on as many challenges as any other top fighter past or present.
YES, HE DUCKED BENAVIDEZ and that will always be a black mark against him. But in his 30’s a lot of other guys in the past have done the same if we’re being honest.
Canelo cannot be held responsible for holding belts to ransom. That is down to the governing body allowing it to happen.
Definitely with you on the first part but you wouldn't know it the way many go on about his standing and accomplishments. And something tells me once done he'll make way too many all time lists.

The takes on as many challenges as any others yeh maybe not. Crazy to think that at the exact same stage/age of 34 guys like Barrera were tangling with legit rivals and HOFs Morales, Marquez and Manny and guys like Rocky Juarez not once but twice as well as Ayala. Juan M Marquez is even more impressive...he'd go on to face Manny Pacquiao another 3 times, Barrera, Casamayor, Mayweather, Bradley and a pair with Juan Diaz. As well as 5,6,7 others at/post 34 yrs old. Canelo at 34 has taken fights anyone who is being straight knew he was heavily favored to win and is gently tip toing out the door.