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    I apologize to Ryan Garcia. I was wrong

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    That ended up being an entertaining contest but too scrappy and too much holding to be rated a classic.

    Garcia left hook had immediate affect in the first round when it landed on Haney, whose eye’s went into orbit from the impact.

    The power in Garcia left hook was the main difference as he knocked down poor Haney 3 times.
    Devin was outboxing Ryan when he was not getting rocked and was ahead in the first half of the bout. Haney was slower and was less resistant against Garcia. Ryan fought in erratic bursts which confused Haney so much that he forgot about the dangerous left hook.

    Those knockdowns will have an impact on Haney, and I hope he comes back but both fighters were huge at the weight which is normal for boxers nowadays.

    I do not like Garcia, he missed the weight, acted like a brat and I hate his shoulder roll. It is poor and I blame Floyd for influencing boxers thinking they can use it. Garcia poor but highly rated trainer can not control Ryan, he is a law to himself and will implode.
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    Judge Robin Taylor on the right seemed a bit too pro Ryan Garcia.
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    A gross miscalculation by Haneys mob. No one has ever won a fight wearing Ugg boots.

    Do Ryan and Danny have the same Daddy? Or did they get them both from the same we're 50 but think we're 20 Guido factory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post

    Judge Robin Taylor on the right seemed a bit too pro Ryan Garcia.
    Haney was the house fighter, the left side of the poster. If Garcia hadn't knocked him down three times they would have given it to Haney. The ref didn't count at least one legitimate knockdown and took a point away from Garcia when he should have just warned him. He gave Haney extra time to recover from knockdowns, didn't take a point for the endless holding and various other little moves that all helped Haney.

    In the end they had to give it to Garcia though. There would have been a riot if they'd given it to Haney.

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    Well done King Ryan Garcia
    Ryan fooled me
    The card had a few surprises
    Garcia showed perfectly how to hook off the jab in the 7th
    Haney needs to learn to keep his right up after throwing a left
    That flaw was devastating against Garcia's left hook

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    Ok finally got to watch full version that wasn't hacked to bits, and good luck finding those. Now to be fair I've always been hesitant to score replays or at the least take all of them with a grain of salt as well, we already KNOW the result as well as the general reaction one way or the other. But regardless of how critical I was/am of Ryans conduct and just being full of shat in general I like to think I can be 'fair' when it comes to scoring over the years. You don't score from highlights or incomplete fights and fractured rounds. If it's sped up, missing chunks it doesn't count. So of the top...I had Ryan winning. But winning close. This was by no means a full-fledged bell to bell beat down similar to Crawford v Spence which I've seen it compared to. In the end I had it a 112-111 win Garcia. So for an after the fact view here tis,
    1st to Garcia 10-9. Largely based on the early pressure very left hook that clearly stunned Haney. Though Haney actually steadied as would become a pattern of sorts.
    2nd,3rd Haney 10-9 x2. Largely on subtle pressure and cleaner boxing. No mystery.
    4th Haney 10-9 for much of the same but noticed Haney getting vertical feet. Straight line. Spots where he would rush over his lead but clearly better boxing, cleaner shots. And jabs count..
    5th Haney 10-9 same fashion. By now the shell/sideways tortoise "guard" Ryan was doing was well in play. Literal back turned in a few spots as the fight played out. This is where I take issue with some of the Haney doing all the holding talk. Ryan had a very effective thing he was doing in sapping Haney. He'd clinch his neck out of the weird guard and had been warned all night for it. In spots almost draping himself on neck of Haney. Using the size. Haney was holding when he felt the power.
    6th Haney 10-9. Ryan more with the back turned guard thing in corner and Haney focusing on exposed body/side. You hit what's there no? The ref actually warned Haney twice for working the body of Garcia who turned himself that way. End of round crowd was booing.
    7th Garcia 10-7. Massive round Ryan and one that I scored 10-7 with the damage Haney was showing and how literally rubber his legs were. Argument can be made for 2nd kd but ruled slip. The point deduct was on Ryan clearly hit on the break, he put himself in that position. What get's lost is that even if ref "helped" Haney in round he also ignored Garcia running ring center after kd, out of neutral corner while counting. A favoring ref would have stopped action, walked him back, admonish etc. Talk about giving extra time. Ryan ends round zero punching his hands were at his knees, standing there. He was looking for wind.
    8th Haney 10-9. Credit where credit is due...Haney steadied the ship and outworked Garcia though very weary and busted up.
    9th Garcia 10-9. Now to me, this was a very tough round to score. At first I thought even. But I hate even round it's just very indecisive and undecided. Ryan warned again to stay off his head with arm wrap up. But at about the 40 second mark there was a stutter step on Haney that was some seriously ugly footing. Haney stepped in with what looked like a karate stance ffs and hands wide and really missed being sparked ice cold. Go look at it . Ryan whips an uppercut that half lands on a fully exposed jaw hanging out Haney. Just an odd-dumb moment.
    10th Garcia 10-8. Probably Ryans cleanest most effective round to point. Rolled off strong combo coming forward and drops Haney early. Again Haney has that sagging look in his legs and is clocked again late.
    11th Garcia 10-8. Fairly even/ugly round early with both warned more than once for holding and clinching. Haney dropped off of right hand left hook, eyes spin up and a wrestling match ensues. Ryan looks a little ragged and Haney looks a lot hurt. But both tying up.
    12th Haney 10-9. Honestly, I think Ryan pooched this round after another example pf having Haney in bad shape prior. Some ugly clinches, Haney probing and sticking and lots of movement for the sake of movement from Ryan. In a round where he was admonished in corner "don't play with him and blow this round" he ends it with shacking his hips hands down at knees and sticking out his tongue. So Ryan gets the win fair and square once the fight started. Both in dire need of moving up imo and had noticeable points in stamina. Haney can't break an egg or hurt feelings with his punches. Ryan is by no means a finisher and fought in gaps of activity. He used his size and frame deceptively and to his advantage in close. Haney showed very little adjustment and can be said he didn't fight the smart fight. But he showed some sac not having too much say in the matter once he was hurt. Garcia with 2,3 combos is a true threat but way too few and far between and his defense remains leaky. No idea where Haney goes...147 Mario Barrios? As for Ryan it's getting a bit carried away tbh. Calls for Ryan vs Crawford mmm . Let's keep things in perspective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    That ended up being an entertaining contest but too scrappy and too much holding to be rated a classic. Garcia left hook had immediate affect in the first round when it landed on Haney, whose eye’s went into orbit from the impact. The power in Garcia left hook was the main difference as he knocked down poor Haney 3 times. Devin was outboxing Ryan when he was not getting rocked and was ahead in the first half of the bout. Haney was slower and was less resistant against Garcia. Ryan fought in erratic bursts which confused Haney so much that he forgot about the dangerous left hook. Those knockdowns will have an impact on Haney, and I hope he comes back but both fighters were huge at the weight which is normal for boxers nowadays. I do not like Garcia, he missed the weight, acted like a brat and I hate his shoulder roll. It is poor and I blame Floyd for influencing boxers thinking they can use it. Garcia poor but highly rated trainer can not control Ryan, he is a law to himself and will implode.
    His shoulder roll is shocking. He has no idea what he's doing or why he should be doing it. I forgot to mention that.

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