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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Master can go to bed at 1:30 a.m. now instead of 2:00 a.m.

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Quote Originally Posted by KickMuck View Post
    Queens bury domination.

    Wilder can retire now.

    Question is was he always that crap or did he just loose is punch?
    Always crap.
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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Quote Originally Posted by KickMuck View Post
    Queens bury domination.

    Wilder can retire now.

    Question is was he always that crap or did he just loose is punch?
    Always a flawed fighter with tremendous eraser. Unfortunately lacked fundamentals to fall back on when adversity increased. You simply cannot learn on the job at these levels.

    Also an example of how overstated kos can be. Exactly who are you knocking out and leaving flat?!

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KickMuck View Post
    Queens bury domination.

    Wilder can retire now.

    Question is was he always that crap or did he just loose is punch?
    Always crap.
    Shame. He was built up as a HW great not long ago.

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Does wilder retire now? I think he should fight once more since he didn't really take too much punishment in this fight. He should fight once more just to test it out but against who I don't know. Maybe against Andy Ruiz or somebody like that

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSavingByTheBell View Post
    Does wilder retire now? I think he should fight once more since he didn't really take too much punishment in this fight. He should fight once more just to test it out but against who I don't know. Maybe against Andy Ruiz or somebody like that
    To me he looks like he has nothing left in the way of boxing. He brought us some entertaining fights but he cant get back in the ring after the last three stinkers. He's got no venom in his punches which is what carried him through his career.

    For me he's finished. (a rich man though so all good for him)

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Totally agree. He didn't even try to throw any of those nuclear torpedo right hands. He was so tentative with them. A straight right hand right down the pipe is what you use against the South Psw or a nice wicked left hook but he didn't use either

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    It happened to AJ to be fair after the loss to Ruiz, AJ looked a bit like a deer in the headlights during the rematch and of course the /usyk fights. Anthony seems to have gone back to the way he was before all thee losses and looks like the pressure is off and performed great again against Ngannu, Walin and Helenios. I dont see wilder doing the same though after the Fury Trilogy. He seems to have gotten worse. I would love to see a comeback but I can't see it happening.

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Quote Originally Posted by KickMuck View Post
    It happened to AJ to be fair after the loss to Ruiz, AJ looked a bit like a deer in the headlights during the rematch and of course the /usyk fights. Anthony seems to have gone back to the way he was before all thee losses and looks like the pressure is off and performed great again against Ngannu, Walin and Helenios. I dont see wilder doing the same though after the Fury Trilogy. He seems to have gotten worse. I would love to see a comeback but I can't see it happening.
    He said he'd retire if he lost. I think he's going to retire

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    So the last thing you lose is your punch, Wilder hasn't dented Zang or Parker in his last 2.
    Makes Fury's wins over him look average at best.
    Explains a lot really.
    Maybe John Fury the fighting man who never fights will call Wilder out next.
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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Joseph Parker & Daniel Dubois showing that fights can improve after loses
    Nick Ball is an action packed fighter
    If Wilder sticks around he becomes a stepping stone

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Missed a few fights, got back in time for Sheeraz Williams. Sheeraz got wobbled a bit in the early rounds? The size difference was stark. Ammo had a few moments but it looked like a wooden spoon running into an oak door. Sheeraz tucked up whilst Ammo blew himself out, then picked him off. Good performance.

    Genuinely pleased for DDD. I thought he was out of his depth here. I said in the other thread that Hrgovic is the better boxer, but it might come down to who holds it together best. It would appear that Dubois has learned a thing or two following a couple of damaging defeats and near misses. The early narrative was that Hrgovic's right hand was just a bit too cultured for Dubois. It looked like it was a matter of time before one really connected and put the skids under him. But, he dug in, he stuck around. OK he might have got a little fortunate with the cuts. But he bit down, fired back and showed that he was mentally and physically stronger than Hrgovic. A really good win.

    How to get things horribly wrong by D. Wilder & Team. There's no guarantee that a prime rampaging Wilder beats Zhang, let alone a faded 2024 version. But give yourself a chance for fucks sake. With Zhang, you win the fight in the second half. I don't give a shit how much Chris Algieri knows about macro nutrients, Big Bang wilts in the second half. If Wilder was going to unlock a thunderbolt from the vault he needed an assist. Zhang being just a bit more stationary was that assist. Why he started trying to fight him so early I don't know.

    Good job from Zhang. He did what he does. Applies steady educated pressure and gets off big shots as soon as he can. When Wilder fucked up, he was there to capitalise. He's now erased Wilder, erased the Parker loss. And keeps himself in the hunt for a possibly fragmented title.

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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Dubois v AJ would be a really good contest in September at Wembley.

    Will Eddie take the risk after what they saw with Triple D?
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    Default Re: Zhilei Zhang says "Wilder is out of Ammo!"

    Well, I wonder how all the revisionalists that thought Wilder was the heaviest puncher in history are feeling now?
    Perhaps now everyone will realise that he was always overrated (and I’m being kind and respectful)
    Proof if ever it was needed that anyone with semi decent boxing fundamentals is a nightmare for “Bomb Squad”
    And anybody that thinks Wilder should go anywhere near a ring again, they need to give their heads a wobble. What the fuck is he going to prove?
    Have to say I was pleasantly impressed with Zheng’s natural instinct to finish Wilder when he tagged him and Wilder turned his back. He didn’t think twice and finished the job . Spiteful but impressive.
    As for Dubois, yes it was probably his best performance to date, but I’ve just seen him saying he would “demolish Joshua!”
    People are gonna jump on his nuts, especially the AJ Haters.
    But Dubois got plugged flush a few times by Hrgovic , and if AJ tags him like that, he ain’t letting him off.
    There are levels and Dubois will learn that. Easy work for AJ.
    Nice blow out for the always impressive Bivol. But I have to say that at late notice, I thought Zinad came to fight and. I like the look of him. He’ll be back, he looked decent in my book.
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