Oleksandr Usyk v Tyson Fury 2, December Twenty First

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the wba super world heavyweight belt should be involved. who says it's not?

[Mark TKO]

Liked usyk showing up today as 47. You can't but like him.

There was a maturity about Fury today I thought and a different kind of attitude. Long time till fight time mind.

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[Master]

'I genuinely believe Tyson will beat Usyk in December, 'says Warren. 'Even in losing a close first fight he proved he can outbox the master boxer Usyk and can hurt him.

'And he knows he must cut out the showboating this time and get down to business straight away.

'But if it is another defeat the Joshua fight will still be there and the Saudis would still be very keen on that.

'Then there's Daniel, matured now and ready for anyone. I would find it awkward making his fight with Tyson because they're both my fighters, have been with me ten years or more and I love them. But if they both want to do it so be it.

'Just as if Tyson suddenly says he wants to retire I would tell him to go ahead. I always say fighters are the first to know if they're in decline and the last to admit it.

'But in Tyson's case he also needs his boxing for the sake of his mental health problems.'

Warren does not anticipate a WBC title rematch between Joshua and Dubois happening and interfering with the schedule, even though it has been strongly mooted for February in Riyadh or Wembley.

'I don't believe that when it comes to it Joshua is going to risk taking that fight,' says Warren. 'Not after being knocked out like that.'

Dubois will still fight in February, perhaps in a mandatory defence of his WBC title. Warren adds: 'Then I would like to see Daniel rematch that defeat by Usyk in a fight I still believe he won with a legal body shot, not a low blow.'

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[mrbig1]

That first fight seems fake. If Tyson had KOed Usyk early there would be no rematch, or it would pay very little. Fury KO's Usyk then a fight with AJ will pay fat. Fury is smart and wants as much money he can get. 100% showman.

[Master]

That first fight seems fake. If Tyson had KOed Usyk early there would be no rematch, or it would pay very little. Fury KO's Usyk then a fight with AJ will pay fat. Fury is smart and wants as much money he can get. 100% showman.

Too much conspiracy theory on your part Mr Big. Fury would never deliberately lose his unbeaten record especially when he was lining up the AJ fight.

Fury looks like he is fit already and must have been putting the work in already before he starts his training camp. If he can maintain the high energy boxing he was doing from round 3-7 where he was winning and hurt Usyk then he can win this contest.

Oleksandr Usyk is just quality and proved he is the best heavyweight and one of the P4P boxers in this era. What is there not to like about the man?

[Mark TKO]

He is very likeable - as was Fury two and a bit years ago (though calming it down a little now).

It's clear they both like each other and have a lot of respect too. No bad mouthing here this time. The face off you could see both trying not to laugh - Fury couldn't hold it in.

It's good to see the respect between the two best of this era. Let's hope it lives up to it.

[TIC]

That first fight seems fake. If Tyson had KOed Usyk early there would be no rematch, or it would pay very little. Fury KO's Usyk then a fight with AJ will pay fat. Fury is smart and wants as much money he can get. 100% showman.

tyson deserves an oscar if he was acting in round nine

[X]

I went back and rewatched the fight again last night. When I saw it for the first time, I has Usyk as a clear winner.

I went through it again, and told myself to try and score more rounds “even” when they were tight and I had originally thought one guy or the other shaded it. That way, I thought I could restore it according to the rounds when I thought there was a clear winner.

First things first ….. what a great fight. Both guys were supremely fit and turned up as the best possible version of themselves.
This time around, I had Usyk shading it by two points only, so can see why either side felt they won it.
Usyk’s gumption in just pressurising Fury for nearly every minute of every round. Even when he was clearly stunned and hurt on several occasions. Tricky movement, great technique, raised his intensity the more the fight went on, didn’t get fazed by sneaky fouls. Brilliant

Fury’s utterly phenomenal cardio fitness and his resilience. I can’t see many other heavyweights surviving that BIG Usyk round. Really nimble for such a big man, skilled technique and boxing, and delivered a ferocious body attack and pressure on his opponent.

It’s weird. I can’t help thinking that Fury will be more confident in the rematch.

Usyk went through hell in that fight, and at times he looked tiny against Fury. His route to victory was pressure, and he suffered on the way to that. What does he do differently next time? What other routes to victory does he have?

Fury will feel that his best performance ceiling will be higher than Usyk’s. He saw how he was so much bigger than his opponent and had huge reach, height and weight advantages that he didn’t really use last time. He started off boxing on the back foot, and that phase of the fight was pretty even. When he stopped retreating, planted his feet and bombarded Usyk to the body, he was handily winning that and had Usyk hurt several times. He will feel that he only lost because Usyk was “lucky” ������ in landing the big shot that turned the whole fight around …. And even then it was a split decision.

i’m really looking forward to the rematch.

[Mark TKO]

Yep agree with a lot of that and it comes back to the end of round nine deciding it.

Bring on the rematch. Let's hope no injuries in training...

[Master]

Great post X, it was a brilliant fight and the rounds were generally easy to score unlike Beterbiev v Bivol.

Both boxers went through hell to try and win the undisputed title.

[Alpha]

Usyk was only a punch away from a KO win in the 1st fight. Fury also knows how badly he was hurt. I suspect Fury will make the rematch a clinchfest to survive.

[Mark TKO]

Yep properly hurt for first time in his career - yes he's been down.

He'll make changes despite him saying he doesn't need to. Still can't believe he allowed usyk to put him on the backfoot.

Now only seven weeks away...

[Big J]

That first fight seems fake. If Tyson had KOed Usyk early there would be no rematch, or it would pay very little. Fury KO's Usyk then a fight with AJ will pay fat. Fury is smart and wants as much money he can get. 100% showman.

Posts like this are a disservice to both boxers & the great fight they gave us
I think Fury is spent
I'm going Usyk by KO

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