Andre Ward DESERVED a Canelo fight!

[TIC]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

[Beanz]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

Cotto is a legend. You need to get his first name out of your dirty mouth and learn some respect for fighters.

[TitoFan]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

A response befitting your lack of humanity and moral character.

[TIC]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

Cotto is a legend. You need to get his first name out of your dirty mouth and learn some respect for fighters.

miguel had to create a fantasy excuse to try & hide the fact that he quit

[TIC]

Truth is maybe Cotto and Canelo had far more in common than the fans would like to admit.

Admittedly, I don't possess the ability to reconstruct some of this history like others on here.

But I'll take slight exception to this particular statement. An examination of Cotto's boxing career yields that the bulk of it was spent between the light welter, welter, and super welter divisions. Cotto's size was never suited for middle... so his three attempts at that weight were less significant in comparison. He fought a lesser version of Sergio Martinez, then fought Daniel Geale... and finally his fight against Canelo. His last two fights were at super welter. He was hardly the only boxer in history to try a weight he proved not suited for. To speak of a possible fight against middleweight great Golovkin... and then call it "ducking" when it never happened (not saying you said that)... is a ridiculous reach, as any knowledgeable boxing fan would know. I'm pretty sure Cotto never had any designs on fighting GGG. He knew his peak was at super welter.

Now let's discuss Canelo again. Pretty much the same height as Cotto... and also started pretty much at light welter and welter. (Although it's tough to ignore the parade of nondescript bums that filled out his first 20+ fights on his professional resume).

Let's stop here to make a point. Any comparison between Cotto and Canelo begin and end with the progression of their competition on their way up. ANY comparison. While Canelo fattened his early pro record with a parade of bums... Cotto followed the usual and traditional path of increasingly better opponents. Night and day.

Back to Canelo. Same height as Cotto... but carefully made his way into middle. Let it not be forgotten that he avoided Golovkin early on... saying he wasn't ready for the weight (that's where the term "marinating" was coined). Yet somehow found it suitable to jump to 164 to fight the mummy, JCC Jr. Four months later he fought GGG, and judges stole the fight from Golovkin.

No sooner was that over, than Canelo began his "hopscotching" career. Jumps up to 168 to pick off sick zebra Rocky Fielding. Then comes back to middle. Granted... his fight vs Jacobs was a rare legit victory. Then he LEAPS to light heavy to pick off the damaged and exposed Kovalev in a HUGELY questionable fight. Grabs a questionable, meaningless trinket. Why questionable? Because he scurried back down. His M.O. Settles at 168, where admittedly he's done his best work, thanks largely to a few accommodating, underachieving British opponents... who seem to lay down at Canelo's feet. Tries 175 once again... and gets embarrassed by Bivol. Even so, the judges did their very best to give Canelo the decision.

Then he drags the unfortunate Golovkin up to 168 for the very first time in his career. The 40-year old Golovkin, who everyone and their brother knows will NEVER get a decision against Canelo in Vegas.

All this... and I haven't even mentioned Canelo's attempts to fight Ilunga Makabu and later trying to fight Badou Jack for bogus cruiserweight titles. Not because Canelo wants to prove he's a legit cruiserweight champion... nor because he has any intentions of defending those titles should he win. But to collect yet another set of useless trinkets.

The more I write, the more miffed I become that Canelo can ever be compared with Cotto.

Nothing could be further from the truth. One is a dignified former champion. Who had his losses, but overall had a stellar career. The other is a coddled, manufactured, diva clown... whose latest chickenshit move has been to blatantly duck David Benavidez and be applauded for it.

canelo can never be compared to a quitter like miguel

A response befitting your lack of humanity and moral character.

it's a fact that miguel quit, sorry not sorry