Thread: De La Hoya about to make decision!!!

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Fitting finale for De La Hoya?

BY ROBERT MORALES,

Marco Antonio Barrera and Rocky Juarez faced off in a staredown on Thursday for reporters at the final news conference promoting their super featherweight title fight Saturday at Staples Center.

Since Oscar De La Hoya is the promoter of the event, he was besieged by reporters who wanted to know about his future as a fighter. Without trying, De La Hoya stole the show. He is coming off a sixth-round technical knockout of Ricardo Mayorga on May 6, and he has a standing Sept. 16 date with HBO for what would be his last fight.

De La Hoya, however, isn't sure if he indeed will have that last fight. If he does, he isn't sure who it will be against, either. But the consensus feeling is that DeLaHoya should make his last bout against Floyd Mayweather Jr., considered the best in the world, pound-for-pound.

"I can make more history by fighting the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world, but I don't want to make a quick decision," DeLaHoya said in a large office inside Staples Center.

De La Hoya said he has had a lot of input from family and friends. Especially from his wife, Millie.

"She says, `This is the perfect fight to go out on,"' De La Hoya said, in reference to the win over Mayorga, which earned De La Hoya the World Boxing.

Council super welterweight championship. "Then she says, `Would you look as good against either Floyd Mayweather Jr. or Winky Wright? Maybe not.'

"And she has a point."

De La Hoya, 33, has won a record six titles in different weight divisions. If he retired now, he is a certain Hall of Famer.

A trip on his boat, `Tommy Crown,' to the island of Culebrita soon will help him decide if he wants to try and build on an already strong legacy.

"I'm going to get on my boat by myself and I'm going to go to our favorite island in Puerto Rico for a few hours and just soak it all in," he said.

Then, he said, everyone will know.


What do you think it will be guys? I am starting to swing in favour of retirement,especially if the old wifey has influence which appears to be the case here!! At least De La Hoya knows and admits he would not look anywhere near as good against Winky or Floyd.Why go out on a loss?

Of course he will fight and of course it will be against Floyd.

He's just trying to hype it up. He will fight (and lose) to PBF in September, consoling himself with the $40 million or so dollars he pockets from the fight.

It's all a marketing scam, hand pick a fighter he knew he could beat and look great against so that he can double his already monumental bank balance with a fight with Floyd.

Oscar's known for a while what he was going to do, as far as his next opponent. He's just trying to generate public interest in it by teasing us with this threat of retirement.

Did you see how happy he looked in the ring after the fight last week? He aoint ready to walk away yet.

he will fight mayweather and enhance his status with a win.

Originally Posted by Mr. Nightmare

Oscar's known for a while what he was going to do, as far as his next opponent. He's just trying to generate public interest in it by teasing us with this threat of retirement.

Did you see how happy he looked in the ring after the fight last week? He aoint ready to walk away yet.

Agreed!!

Originally Posted by bilbo

Of course he will fight and of course it will be against Floyd.

He's just trying to hype it up. He will fight (and lose) to PBF in September, consoling himself with the $40 million or so dollars he pockets from the fight.

It's all a marketing scam, hand pick a fighter he knew he could beat and look great against so that he can double his already monumental bank balance with a fight with Floyd.

Exactly my thoughts. Totally what he and HBO are doing. Just too damn bad Mayorga had to be the sacrifice. He coulda won that damn fight if he had been more hungry, kept that right hand up, but alas he did not. My question is just this: WHAT KIND OF A FAG GOES FOR A BOAT RIDE BY HIMSELF TO DECIDE WHETHER TO FIGHT OR RETIRE? I mean how gay is that? Why not just take a good dump, read a boxing or porn magazine, and come to the decision in bout 10-15 minutes? (As if there is any decision to make, sucker knows the Floyd fight is totally on.)

Hmmm! Five months without sex and now he's going sailing alone to his favourite Island off Puerto rico? No wonder Millie wants him to retire butwho am I to judge and I just seen on tv that he is still in training camp so which is it? One thing is for sure is that he has definately ruled out Hatton and Margarito though. http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/5585874

Maybe Oscar will take after the great Ali and Duran did near their retirment and take on a dangerous wrestler like Takanori Gomi who he was staring down on the best dang Sports Show? http://msn.foxsports.com/bestdamn

I would actually pay to watch'em go at it.

Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Jersey Joe Walcott, Joe Lewis, and Jack Demsey wrestled a bit as well.

http://wrestlingclassics.com/cgi-bin...=3;t=006790;p=

I think Oscar will take his sweet time making a decision. He always does

Am I the only one who see's in De La Hoya the same kind of mind as George Bush when he wanted to invade Iraq?

It was his plan well before the Twin Towers to invade Iraq and finish what Daddy started and every event and pieces of evidence (??) were twisted to shape things so that a military invasion was never in doubt.

I think De La Hoya has done exactly the same. He wanted the gold and the money with a fight with Floyd (read American oil)

So he hand picked a primitive, wild amatuer fighter whose title he knew he could win (read Iraq)

Now it gets clever. He also knows Mayorga is a crude, rude crazy talking man (Saddam) who could spout of a load of crazy S*** and in so doing really hype up the fight (Al Qi-eda, Taliban, Weapons of mass destruction ) and would have the further benefit of allowing De La Hoya to present himself as the decent human being, the people's champion (Bush the protector of freedom and democracy) so that the public would be on his side and flock to him as their champion, reinstalling his golden boy image of just the perfect human being.

Now he's done the boxing world a favour and freed us from the nasty Mayorga he's presenting himself as a man torn, not knowing whether he has it in him to fight on or not ( read Rocky before the Drago fight, or probably in Oscar's mind Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane!)

Soon he will emerge from his boat trip (Jesus wilderness tests) to tell us he is going to fight Floyd after all. (floyd is Bush's Iran and North Korea combined!)

His fans will cheer, he will present himself once more as the saviour, and fight Floyd in a chance to pocket yet more gold and riches and hopefully have the glory of beating the p4p man in the world right now.

The only positive thing here is that like North Korea and soon Iran Floyd has nuclear weapons! Any attempt De La Hoya (the US) to take Floyds crown (oil) will be met with real force and a defcon 1 situation where hopefully Oscar will be blown up and torn apart!

You can probably tell I don't like Oscar very much.

Originally Posted by bilbo

Am I the only one who see's in De La Hoya the same kind of mind as George Bush when he wanted to invade Iraq?

It was his plan well before the Twin Towers to invade Iraq and finish what Daddy started and every event and pieces of evidence (??) were twisted to shape things so that a military invasion was never in doubt.

I think De La Hoya has done exactly the same. He wanted the gold and the money with a fight with Floyd (read American oil)

So he hand picked a primitive, wild amatuer fighter whose title he knew he could win (read Iraq)

Now it gets clever. He also knows Mayorga is a crude, rude crazy talking man (Saddam) who could spout of a load of crazy S*** and in so doing really hype up the fight (Al Qi-eda, Taliban, Weapons of mass destruction ) and would have the further benefit of allowing De La Hoya to present himself as the decent human being, the people's champion (Bush the protector of freedom and democracy) so that the public would be on his side and flock to him as their champion, reinstalling his golden boy image of just the perfect human being.

Now he's done the boxing world a favour and freed us from the nasty Mayorga he's presenting himself as a man torn, not knowing whether he has it in him to fight on or not ( read Rocky before the Drago fight, or probably in Oscar's mind Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane!)

Soon he will emerge from his boat trip (Jesus wilderness tests) to tell us he is going to fight Floyd after all. (floyd is Bush's Iran and North Korea combined!)

His fans will cheer, he will present himself once more as the saviour, and fight Floyd in a chance to pocket yet more gold and riches and hopefully have the glory of beating the p4p man in the world right now.

The only positive thing here is that like North Korea and soon Iran Floyd has nuclear weapons! Any attempt De La Hoya (the US) to take Floyds crown (oil) will be met with real force and a defcon 1 situation where hopefully Oscar will be blown up and torn apart!

You can probably tell I don't like Oscar very much.

Your whole analyses is backwards and only proves that you should be investigated for mental instability and loose all your rights to travel abroad since you feel it would be positive for Iran and Korea to blow-up the U.S. However, I will break your diatribe/folly down for all the other anti-Americans on this forum.

First of All, if Oscar really wanted to force Mr. Pinocchio Boy Floyed to fight him then he would have took up Margaritos challenge for the 147-title belt. This would have given Oscar much more of the glory that he seeks and put him in a better position unless he is trying to get Mayweather to come up to 154 which won't happen for a while. Oscar went in for the knockout against Mayorga while George is taking his time in Iraq. Furthermore Mayorga has been bad mouthing and challenging Oscar for years just as Saddam and Alkaida has been challenging the U.S. so you got that backwards as well.

On the other hand, George probably did have plans to invade Iraq and it was actually a stepping stone to invade Iran but I doubt that it had much to do with oil but instead it was to disrupt nuclear locos as yourself in Iran while at the same time prevent Saddam from paying off Alkaida and Palestinian suicide bombers. However George and Oscar have some personal reason for fighting as well. For instance, George did indeed avenge the assassination attempt of his father while Oscar has admitted that he fought so hard for his father’s approval.

You also compare Oscar to Jesus but in reality Oscar takes the Lord’s name in vain on public television so he may not really be a Christian. You also compare Mayorga to Saddam, which would get your butt pickled if Mayorga heard you say that because Mayorga is a self-confessed Christian who loves is people, who grew up on the streets and does his fighting personally; unfortunately he has been badly influenced and managed by a vile promoter named Don King. Saddam on the other hand is a fat slob who hates his own people, and lets others do his fighting.

Someone may in deed find similarities between Oscar and George or Saddam and Mayorga but you did a very poor job.

Originally Posted by maracho

Originally Posted by bilbo

Am I the only one who see's in De La Hoya the same kind of mind as George Bush when he wanted to invade Iraq?

It was his plan well before the Twin Towers to invade Iraq and finish what Daddy started and every event and pieces of evidence (??) were twisted to shape things so that a military invasion was never in doubt.

I think De La Hoya has done exactly the same. He wanted the gold and the money with a fight with Floyd (read American oil)

So he hand picked a primitive, wild amatuer fighter whose title he knew he could win (read Iraq)

Now it gets clever. He also knows Mayorga is a crude, rude crazy talking man (Saddam) who could spout of a load of crazy S*** and in so doing really hype up the fight (Al Qi-eda, Taliban, Weapons of mass destruction ) and would have the further benefit of allowing De La Hoya to present himself as the decent human being, the people's champion (Bush the protector of freedom and democracy) so that the public would be on his side and flock to him as their champion, reinstalling his golden boy image of just the perfect human being.

Now he's done the boxing world a favour and freed us from the nasty Mayorga he's presenting himself as a man torn, not knowing whether he has it in him to fight on or not ( read Rocky before the Drago fight, or probably in Oscar's mind Jesus in the Garden of Gethsemane!)

Soon he will emerge from his boat trip (Jesus wilderness tests) to tell us he is going to fight Floyd after all. (floyd is Bush's Iran and North Korea combined!)

His fans will cheer, he will present himself once more as the saviour, and fight Floyd in a chance to pocket yet more gold and riches and hopefully have the glory of beating the p4p man in the world right now.

The only positive thing here is that like North Korea and soon Iran Floyd has nuclear weapons! Any attempt De La Hoya (the US) to take Floyds crown (oil) will be met with real force and a defcon 1 situation where hopefully Oscar will be blown up and torn apart!

You can probably tell I don't like Oscar very much.

Your whole analyses is backwards and only proves that you should be investigated for mental instability and loose all your rights to travel abroad since you feel it would be positive for Iran and Korea to blow-up the U.S. However, I will break your diatribe/folly down for all the other anti-Americans on this forum.

First of All, if Oscar really wanted to force Mr. Pinocchio Boy Floyed to fight him then he would have took up Margaritos challenge for the 147-title belt. This would have given Oscar much more of the glory that he seeks and put him in a better position unless he is trying to get Mayweather to come up to 154 which won't happen for a while. Oscar went in for the knockout against Mayorga while George is taking his time in Iraq. Furthermore Mayorga has been bad mouthing and challenging Oscar for years just as Saddam and Alkaida has been challenging the U.S. so you got that backwards as well.

On the other hand, George probably did have plans to invade Iraq and it was actually a stepping stone to invade Iran but I doubt that it had much to do with oil but instead it was to disrupt nuclear locos as yourself in Iran while at the same time prevent Saddam from paying off Alkaida and Palestinian suicide bombers. However George and Oscar have some personal reason for fighting as well. For instance, George did indeed avenge the assassination attempt of his father while Oscar has admitted that he fought so hard for his father’s approval.

You also compare Oscar to Jesus but in reality Oscar takes the Lord’s name in vain on public television so he may not really be a Christian. You also compare Mayorga to Saddam, which would get your butt pickled if Mayorga heard you say that because Mayorga is a self-confessed Christian who loves is people, who grew up on the streets and does his fighting personally; unfortunately he has been badly influenced and managed by a vile promoter named Don King. Saddam on the other hand is a fat slob who hates his own people, and lets others do his fighting.

Someone may in deed find similarities between Oscar and George or Saddam and Mayorga but you did a very poor job.

Ok calm down friend I was only making a tounge in cheek joke it wasn't meant as an anti American piece of political propaganda

If you were capable of understanding a post you might have grasped that I at nowhere suggested it would be good for Iran or Korea to blow up the US. I do indeed think however that just as Oscar fighting Floyd, Mr Bush will indeed get more than he bargains for if he tries to do to Iran or North Korea what he did to Iraq.

A few more mistakes on your part..... Again I never said Mayorga was an evil dicator, just that Oscar chose him to fight because he could portray himself as the dignified decent man against the wild and nasty Mayorga, a case of good Vs evil. Actually you completely misundstood this part. I'm a Mayorga fan, he was ripped off financially in this fight, portrayed as the villain and then sent packing back to Nicuragua whilst Goldenboy took the title and 80% of the purse for the fight.

Thats an attack on the goldenboy by the way not Mayorga.

Comparing Oscar to Jesus, no way I think Oscar is Scmhuck I was merely ridiculing Oscar's sense of self importance, his boat trip to find himself, gimme a break


And as for Oscar fighting Maragarito what planet are you on? Why would he want that fight? Mayorga was the perfect whipping boy for Oscar, he's wild, reckless and pantomime villian but can't fight, JUST like Saddam.

Oh and America took about 2 weeks to get rid of Saddam, it's the civil war that has dragged on not the conquest.

Bilbo

your quote "The only positive thing here is that like North Korea and soon Iran Floyd has nuclear weapons! Any attempt De La Hoya (the US) to take Floyds crown (oil) will be met with real force and a defcon 1 situation where hopefully Oscar will be blown up and torn apart! You can probably tell I don't like Oscar very much. "

Sounds suspicious to me even if you still do not realize it consiously.

Bilbo quotes "Oh and America took about 2 weeks to get rid of Saddam, it's the civil war that has dragged on not the conquest." You must have forgot about the snipers, and road side bombs and cannons that are still killing troops (who perpitrators claim are the true enemies). I think the only reason George is letting the troops linger here is because he has plans for Iran.

You also quoted "And as for Oscar fighting Maragarito what planet are you on? Why would he want that fight? Mayorga was the perfect whipping boy for Oscar, he's wild, reckless and pantomime villian but can't fight, JUST like Saddam"

True boxing fans and possibly PPVers do not give Oscar much glory from this fight and we Americans (biggest finacial supporters of boxing) are not as ignorant as you elude and thus would have been more impressed if Oscar took a chance with Margarito.

Originally Posted by maracho

Bilbo

your quote "The only positive thing here is that like North Korea and soon Iran Floyd has nuclear weapons! Any attempt De La Hoya (the US) to take Floyds crown (oil) will be met with real force and a defcon 1 situation where hopefully Oscar will be blown up and torn apart! You can probably tell I don't like Oscar very much. "

Sounds suspicious to me even if you still do not realize it consiously.

Bilbo quotes "Oh and America took about 2 weeks to get rid of Saddam, it's the civil war that has dragged on not the conquest." You must have forgot about the snipers, and road side bombs and cannons that are still killing troops (who perpitrators claim are the true enemies). I think the only reason George is letting the troops linger here is because he has plans for Iran.

You also quoted "And as for Oscar fighting Maragarito what planet are you on? Why would he want that fight? Mayorga was the perfect whipping boy for Oscar, he's wild, reckless and pantomime villian but can't fight, JUST like Saddam"

True boxing fans and possibly PPVers do not give Oscar much glory from this fight and we Americans (biggest finacial supporters of boxing) are not as ignorant as you elude and thus would have been more impressed if Oscar took a chance with Margarito.

Ok let me make it clear I NOT want a nuclear war to take place! I don't like De La Hoya much it is true, as I think he has carefully manufactured his image as the goldenboy, like he's the true American idol.

It's true serious boxing fans would have liked De La Hoya to fight Margarito but De La Hoya, chose to fight the easy target and one who could get him to what he wanted with little risk and make him look good at the same time.

That is EXACTLY what Bush did! It was Saudia Arabians that caused the trade centre tragedy NOT Iraq! To go after the real perpetrators would have been financially unwise and dangerous to Bush - Saudi relations, so Bush chose instead to pick on Iraq which had no connections to the Trade Centre at all, but Bush made out that Saddam was an evil threat to the US and the public (not all) bought it and the invasion went ahead.

That is JUST like De La Hoya, for Margarito read Saudi's, not a wise plan for Bush or De La Hoya to go after.


Mayorga was a great choice for De La Hoya, he got the chance to look all great and noble and dignified. Now he's after the true crown Mayweather.

But Mayweather will beat him.

Quote by Bilbo " Ok let me make it clear I NOT want a nuclear war to take place! "

Your not hearing helicopters over your roof, taking frequent peeks out your window or feel that your being watched while taking a doo doo all of the sudden are you Bilbo?

as long as young women and men are fighting and dying for their country and providing a free world for us to come and disucss boxing how about we not belittle their sacrifices by mocking it.