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    Default Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    http://www.doghouseboxing.com/chee/chee_0715a06.htm

    Carlos Baldomir Bio: After thirteen years of a somewhat unsuccessful career, Baldomir finally got a shot at a world title against a resurrected, and confident (or so we thought) champion in Zab "Super" Judah. Baldomir also had to travel to Judah's backyard in the world famous Madison Square Garden adding extra difficulty to his new experience in title fights. Over the course of the first six rounds, Judah out-maneuvered the slower Baldomir to take the majority of the rounds. Then in the seventh, Baldomir slammed a right hand into Judah's questionable chin causing him to lose his legs for not only the rest of the round, but for the rest of the fight. Judah spent the last five rounds on his toes trying to avoid another dose of adversity given to him in the seventh. In effect, Baldomir scored what probably will be called Upset of the Year by years end winning a unanimous decision.

    Arturo Gatti bio: Arturo launched his professional fighting career on June 10th 1991 after an accomplished amateur career with a victory over Jose Gonzalez. After suffering a loss in the hands of King Solomon, "Thunder" went on a
    seventeen fight winning streak prompting reigning IBF Super Featherweight titleholder Tracy Harris Patterson to give the hard punching Gatti a crack at his first world title. Gatti outboxed Patterson for twelve rounds to win his first world title. Gatti made three defenses of the title, including heart pounding performances versus Wilson Rodriguez and Gabriel Ruelas, which earned credentials as the 1997 Fight Of The Year. Then Arturo suffered the worst year of his professional career, 1998. He started off the year moving up to lightweight to face the very tricky Angel Manfredy in Atlantic City. Manfredy dropped and also stopped Gatti in the eighth round. Then Gatti went up against a solid lightweight in Ivan Robinson and was outpointed in 1998's Fight Of The Year. Robinson repeated in the rematch with a unanimous decision victory over his rival. After a relatively quiet 1999, Gatti went 3-0 in 2000 setting him up for the biggest fight of his career (at that time), Oscar De La Hoya. Gatti was down in round one and trainer Hector Rocha threw in the towel to save Gatti from De La Hoya's vicious onslaught in the fifth. Arturo took the rest of the year off but came back in 2002 to demolish former champion Terron Millet then lost in dramatic fashion to Micky Ward in yet another Fight Of The Year winner. Arturo dominated the rematch later that year then settled the score when he survived a broken right hand and a knockdown to once again defeat Ward. Gatti won his second world title January 2003 against Gianluca Branco then made two defenses (knocking out Leonard Dorin and James Leija) before putting his title on the line against possibly the best fighter in the world, Floyd Mayweather Jr. Mayweather humiliated Gatti in his backyard dropping him in the first and prompting trainer Buddy McGirt to stop the fight at the end of the sixth. A knockout of Tomas Damgaard has set Gatti up for the Baldomir challenge.

    Strengths

    Carlos Baldomir: Experience, Physical strength, chin, heart, and patience.

    Arturo Gatti: Punching Power, hand and foot speed, combination punching, chin, and heart.

    Weaknesses

    Carlos Baldomir: Power, hand speed, foot speed, one-dimensional attack, and age.

    Arturo Gatti: strength at welterweight, prone to cuts, right hand breaks frequently, and he can be out-muscled (shown in first bout with Ward).

    The Questions

    Carlos Baldomir: How he will react to a hard left hook from Gatti, Is he fast enough to compete with Gatti, Will he use his physical strength as an advantage?

    Arturo Gatti: Can he hurt Baldomir at this weight, Will he be out-muscled. Will he break his hand?

    What each fighter must do to win

    Carlos Baldomir: Use his comfort at 147 as an advantage, push the attack, go to the body, wear Gatti down.

    Arturo Gatti: Don't stand in one spot, always use combinations, stay off the ropes, try to stay out of infighting exchanges.

    The Outcome
    Gatti will come out moving and Baldomir stalking. Gatti will control the early rounds with his hand-speed and foot speed. I think Gatti will tire from Baldomir's aggression and allow Baldomir to come back. Baldomir will use his physical strength to dominate the late rounds and win a very close split decision.

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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    i also heard that baldomir comes into the fight weighing ALOT MORE than the weight limit.
    hope gatti knocks him the fuck out!

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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    Baldomir wins this one easy.

    Gatti is done.

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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.

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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    Im going with Baldomir in this one. I think Gatti is just too ring worn. I see the fight going the same way The Game explained it. Gatti winning early tiring out with close rounds in the middle and Baldomir winning the late rounds for a SD.
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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    Gatti win 6th R KO

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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    gatti to win

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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Game
    I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.
    CC, for an interesting article, young Game

    Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...

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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    I'll take Baldomir by decision. I just don't know how much is left of Gatti. Baldomir decisioned Judah who IMO is a much better fighter than Gatti especially at this stage. I just see Baldomir grinding away & doing enough to take the win.
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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    I think Gatti has been hit in the head more than any current welter weight,

    and it's starting to show.........

    Baldomir one-sided UD
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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    I can see people saying Baldizor UD because of Gatti's age, but if anyone is basing that around the Judah fight (the one Zab gave away) then you must be destroyed

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    Quote Originally Posted by raleights
    I can see people saying Baldizor UD because of Gatti's age, but if anyone is basing that around the Judah fight (the one Zab gave away) then you must be destroyed
    No it's not based on the Judah fight, I honestly think that what Gatti has left is not enough to overcome the naturally bigger Baldomackarena
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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    and a to game for the article
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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by The Game
    I believe Carlos Baldomir to be a rugged,tough,veteran and he proved this against Judah. He may have quite a few losses but his last one was waaaaaaay back in 98/99 I think. I think he will take whatever Gatti has and keep marching forward,keep grinding him down on his way to a points win. Carlos does not excel in any particular area but he's decent in most areas and this makes him tough to deal with. Baldo UD for me and he's a natural WW too so that could be a telling factor.
    CC, for an interesting article, young Game

    Im going with a Gatti win here however. Baldomir didnt exactly beat Zab IMO, Zab practically handed over the fight by refusing to be competitive down the straight. Gatti wont go on the backfoot because of a single shot by a guy with a less than 25% KO record and so we may get a thriller here. Gatti got blown out by PBF but Baldomir isnt in that league. He's relatively slow and Gatti can even display some of his boxing skills here. Expect a fantastic fight, but at the end of the day I just think Gatti is too good for Baldomir...
    CC back pops That's the thing though,I don't rate Gatti's boxing ability at all and a guy with a low KO ratio but a natural WW can still be very dangerous.Ask Ricky Hatton about Luis Collazo! Also,I think Gatti will get worn out,I don't think he can hurt Baldomir.Remember,Baldozar took the best of what Zab had to offer,and I'm sure Zab hits as hard,if not harder than Gatti.

    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    and a to game for the article
    CC back bro,love the name(Baldomackarena )

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    Default Re: Gatti v Baldomir analysis.

    my friend for a great post. Maybe poeple are brushing Gatti because of his age and that he took a lot of punishment before and pikcing Baldomir because of a big win over a very good Zab Judah. But Gatti won on his return and stopped Daamgard in the 10th(I think) and Tata was outboxed in the first half of the fight until he tagged Zab with the right hand. I still think Gatti has more left in the tank that most people think, and for Baldomir this newfound confidence he got may elevate his boxing a few notches higher.

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