Thread: Calzaghe, let's show a little respect...

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Well... thats a nice post with a bunch of boxing politics....

Fact of the matter is when your the chump champ like Joe you're suppose to be in the driver seat, and have control of whom YOU fight.....

MAB didn't have to fight Rocky a second time, ODLH himself gave him 3 names (not including Rockys) and MAB told ODLH no thank you but I wan't to fight Rocky a second time. MAB was even adviced that he didn't have to figh Rocky and there were other BIGGER names out there for him to fight.... MAB still insisted until he convinced ODLH/GBP to convince HBO to let the 2nd match go.

When a fighter want's something and is out to prove hes the best theres no excuses.... You make the fight happend.

About loosing belts, being at home and all that well he could have offered to fight in neutral grounds or something. But anyways to me thats all boxing politics and like i said when a fighter is out to prove hes the best he'll do it anywhere....

your comparing MAB to Calzaghe? an already cert to be an ATG and HoF? Barrera can fight an unknown and have ti in Vegas if he wants... Calzaghe still can't even be a main event in the US, the compareson is way different lol One is a guy who has made it big in the us, had t shirts printed saying he made it big, and those very t shirts went out of style hes been big there that long, while the other has had just ONE HBO fight to date - as for the rest of your post, well thats just ifs and maybes.. Joe has vacated his belt to fight the one HBow ant him to, whos to say Kessler would of vacated his belt, or fight out side of denmark? he said he would but the onlyoffer iv seen was for denamrk and no where else - and still bullsh*t his 20th def should be in his home country just like every other fighter i know who went that far done it (possibly some big stars done it in america im not certain)

Kessler came over to Australia to fight Mundine and Mundine was not a mandatory to Kessler`s WBA-title that time.He left his home country and won a dominant points decision on foreign soil against a quality opponent, when he didnt have to Thats why most of Aussies respect Kessler.A thing Calzaghe never has done and never will

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by Mattyhitman

Is Kessler the only option for Joe?

nop, coz should he beat Kessler, kessler would be an unproven overrated hometown fighter...

And beating Manfredo proves what, exactly?

nothing, but it gets him the mega fight with Taylor that he wants, gets to main event a Us fight for mega money - beat the guy who beat the guy

In boxing like in anything else theres no gurantees, what makes Joe think he WILL fight Taylor?
Thats just talk for now....

Originally Posted by jangeorg

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Well... thats a nice post with a bunch of boxing politics....

Fact of the matter is when your the chump champ like Joe you're suppose to be in the driver seat, and have control of whom YOU fight.....

MAB didn't have to fight Rocky a second time, ODLH himself gave him 3 names (not including Rockys) and MAB told ODLH no thank you but I wan't to fight Rocky a second time. MAB was even adviced that he didn't have to figh Rocky and there were other BIGGER names out there for him to fight.... MAB still insisted until he convinced ODLH/GBP to convince HBO to let the 2nd match go.

When a fighter want's something and is out to prove hes the best theres no excuses.... You make the fight happend.

About loosing belts, being at home and all that well he could have offered to fight in neutral grounds or something. But anyways to me thats all boxing politics and like i said when a fighter is out to prove hes the best he'll do it anywhere....

your comparing MAB to Calzaghe? an already cert to be an ATG and HoF? Barrera can fight an unknown and have ti in Vegas if he wants... Calzaghe still can't even be a main event in the US, the compareson is way different lol One is a guy who has made it big in the us, had t shirts printed saying he made it big, and those very t shirts went out of style hes been big there that long, while the other has had just ONE HBO fight to date - as for the rest of your post, well thats just ifs and maybes.. Joe has vacated his belt to fight the one HBow ant him to, whos to say Kessler would of vacated his belt, or fight out side of denmark? he said he would but the onlyoffer iv seen was for denamrk and no where else - and still bullsh*t his 20th def should be in his home country just like every other fighter i know who went that far done it (possibly some big stars done it in america im not certain)

Kessler came over to Australia to fight Mundine and Mundine was not a mandatory to Kessler`s WBA-title that time.He left his home country and won a dominant points decision on foreign soil against a quality opponent, when he didnt have to Thats why most of Aussies respect Kessler.A thing Calzaghe never has done and never will

Good point on Kessler fighting out of his home....

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by Mattyhitman

Is Kessler the only option for Joe?

nop, coz should he beat Kessler, kessler would be an unproven overrated hometown fighter...

And beating Manfredo proves what, exactly?

nothing, but it gets him the mega fight with Taylor that he wants, gets to main event a Us fight for mega money - beat the guy who beat the guy

What 3.4 million ain't mega money?

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by Mattyhitman

Is Kessler the only option for Joe?

nop, coz should he beat Kessler, kessler would be an unproven overrated hometown fighter...

And beating Manfredo proves what, exactly?

nothing, but it gets him the mega fight with Taylor that he wants, gets to main event a Us fight for mega money - beat the guy who beat the guy

What 3.4 million ain't mega money?

Yeah i hope he's not expecting a Holyfield 50mil + paycheck.

im a fan of calzaghe but me and alot of other people that you can tell aint happy with his decisions and thta is how people are starting to disrespect and lose interest in him

Originally Posted by ono

Originally Posted by stebs

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by CompulsiveSadClicker

Originally Posted by RockyFatton

I'm an infrequent poster, but the criticism of Joe Calzaghe on this site (and others) has provoked me into a response. Basically, I think people need to stand back a little bit and get some perspective.

Calzaghe's record clearly speaks for itself: W 42 (31 ko's) | L 0 | D 0, a two belt world champion (and yes I know he's had to give one up) a Ring Magazine champion, he features on most of the respected pound for pound listings and he's the longest current reigning world champion.

I am inclined to agree we those that say however, that unless he fights Kessler or another truly big name, we won't know how good he really is, and whether he will go down in history as a truly great fighter, or merely a very good one.

But, lets get some perspective. In the final analysis, we can't judge a mans career until he hangs up his gloves. Yes, Manfredo isn't the most challenging fight for him out there, but so what? It will help raise his profile, (particularly in the US) and will help pave the way for the make the 'clash of the titans' fights we all crave. And why begrudge him of making a little money before thowing himself into the eye of the storm? In my opinion he's earned it (particularly as his ex-wife near cleaned him out in the divorce courts).

Another point. To all the people demanding to know why Calzaghe hasn't thought Kessler, Wright etc... Do you really appreciate how difficult is is to make these fights? We don't what fighters are really demanding to make a fight, despite what they claim. But I sincerely don't doubt for a minute that Joe would fight Kessler next week if the deal on the table the deal was good enough....

Lastly, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I think we should show a little respect for fighters like Calzaghe. Boxing is a very, very tough and dangerous sport. You don't get to the top without being extremely talented, dedicated, courageous and a being a world-class athlete to boot. So unless all of you posters are ex-world champion boxers yourselves, less have a little bit more respect for the man, whether or not you agree with all of his choices.

I see you have a perfect cool click to sad click ratio. Allow me to change that. Sad click!

how sad ..

At least he had the balls to tell him he was sad clicking him, I can't say I agree with this guys post about Calzaghe but I wouldn't sad click him for it, actually I think the cool/sad clicks should be abolished.

Calzaghe will earn my respect when he steps up to the plate and fights someone of real merit without making them fight him with 40,000 Calzaghe fans behind him, all the American boxing fans already know him but if he wants us Americans to appreciate him he better get over here and fight someone we consider a great fighter. He doesn't even have to do that, he could grow some balls and unify the titles on neutral soil. Until he does that he's just another fighter taking the easy fights to build a record. I thought that was what new fighters did, build a record agains't lesser opponents and then step it up to better competition until they got a title shot. Calzaghe's going backwards losing the respect of his own countryman and us Amercans while Manfredo is gaining the respect of Joes own people. To bad for Joe, this fight does nothing but harm him, win or lose.

When has that ever happened. Manchester is in England and Calzaghe is from Wales (different country). There was 12,000 there for the lacy fight.

Ok sorry if the numbers were wrong, I guess I was thinking of the people that show up for Hatton fights, but at least Hatton has the balls to fight outside of his hometown, Shit Calzaghe can't even draw people at home then, I guess poor Joe just gets no respect anywhere, that should be good for another sad click from you Calzaghe groupies.

[quote=ICE COLD BOXING ]
[quote=stebs ]

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by [b

CompulsiveSadClicke[/b]r ]

he scs everyone for no good reason i dont care if he has the balls to say it

Hence his name, I never noticed him before, and he probably deserves some sad clicks if what you say is true and his name alone backs you up, I don't give sad clicks so I'll leave that to everyone else. It does make me wonder why he's still on the plus side though.