Thread: Defensive Messiah?

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Originally Posted by wacko3205

The funny thing about this video is that it seems to be missing something...the decisive win that Floyd scored over Corley...not some home cooked decision from a judge as biased as the poster that presented this video.

Cheers Danny...youv'e done yourself proud.

You know Cotto was demolishing Corley. Had that boy on his knees beggin please. He was saved. Corley was falling apart. The wind in Cotto's blows was making Corley drop to his knees. What your boy does in 12 Cotto can do in 5.

Speaking of 5?

Cinco de Mayo is coming. Hope you'all have your crying towels.

Hmmmm? Maybe I should sale PBF pink crying towels?

Yeah he did beat Corley.

It was a nice win at the time because it was a step up for Cotto and you can not deny that Cotto struggled mightily. But that was a younger greener Cotto who let Corley's jab give him problems. Meanwhile that was just a staybusy fight for Mayweather, just to see how he felt at 140 and he dominated. Got caught with two shots. 3 years ago that happened. Does it matter?

Look...I aint saying that he didn't win the fight...but that was the biggest bullshit call I have ever seen & to compare the Cotto win to the Floyd win is laughable.

Honestly...to compare anything Cotto does in reference to him surpassing Floyd is hillarious unless you compare the power factor...which Cotto completely controls.

My whole issue here is that while most can recognize & appreciate Cotto for what he is & does...the same can not be applied to Floyd by his detractors.

It's just short sightedness coming from a boxing fan's POV.

Nothing wrong with having favorites...but talent is talent & both fighters should be recognized for their strong points...then again...everyone's entitled to an opinion...but come on...let's be reasonable...something that never appears to be factored into these one sided arguements/discussions.

I was agreeing 100% Honestly it's rather funny these "well he did this to that fighter while he did this", those usually hold no water. But how a Cotto fan can use that with the Corley fight in comparision to Mayweather.....Mayweather did better

Originally Posted by SweetPea

Early in the clip, he shows a combo that Corley threw with 1:33 left in the 1st round, and Floyd blocked all the punches with his gloves. If you're gonna make a clip like this, at least pick the punches that landed

Danny, would you be up for a bet? Something along the lines of.... if Floyd beats Oscar, you need to get rid of your Cotto pic and replace it with a Floyd pic that we'll choose? And then for your text under the photo, you'll have to put "Defensive Messiah."

ok we have a bet.

I am not an ODLH fan but now I am really going to have to root for him.
I don't know why I don't like Oscar but I just don't.
I guess my thinking is along the same lines as Vargas.
lol
oh and I already CC'd you earlier.

danny check your pm

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Originally Posted by wacko3205

The funny thing about this video is that it seems to be missing something...the decisive win that Floyd scored over Corley...not some home cooked decision from a judge as biased as the poster that presented this video.

Cheers Danny...youv'e done yourself proud.

You know Cotto was demolishing Corley. Had that boy on his knees beggin please. He was saved. Corley was falling apart. The wind in Cotto's blows was making Corley drop to his knees. What your boy does in 12 Cotto can do in 5.

Speaking of 5?

Cinco de Mayo is coming. Hope you'all have your crying towels.

Hmmmm? Maybe I should sale PBF pink crying towels?

Yeah he did beat Corley.

It was a nice win at the time because it was a step up for Cotto and you can not deny that Cotto struggled mightily. But that was a younger greener Cotto who let Corley's jab give him problems. Meanwhile that was just a staybusy fight for Mayweather, just to see how he felt at 140 and he dominated. Got caught with two shots. 3 years ago that happened. Does it matter?

Look...I aint saying that he didn't win the fight...but that was the biggest bullshit call I have ever seen & to compare the Cotto win to the Floyd win is laughable.

Honestly...to compare anything Cotto does in reference to him surpassing Floyd is hillarious unless you compare the power factor...which Cotto completely controls.

My whole issue here is that while most can recognize & appreciate Cotto for what he is & does...the same can not be applied to Floyd by his detractors.

It's just short sightedness coming from a boxing fan's POV.

Nothing wrong with having favorites...but talent is talent & both fighters should be recognized for their strong points...then again...everyone's entitled to an opinion...but come on...let's be reasonable...something that never appears to be factored into these one sided arguements/discussions.

I was agreeing 100% Honestly it's rather funny these "well he did this to that fighter while he did this", those usually hold no water. But how a Cotto fan can use that with the Corley fight in comparision to Mayweather.....Mayweather did better

Agreed. The thing is this...I'm a huge fan of Cotto's...but he's not perfect...nor is Floyd.

The difference is...I can deal with that. When/if Floyd loses...no matter to whom...if he's beaten decisively & fairly...then that is that.

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Originally Posted by SweetPea

Early in the clip, he shows a combo that Corley threw with 1:33 left in the 1st round, and Floyd blocked all the punches with his gloves. If you're gonna make a clip like this, at least pick the punches that landed

Danny, would you be up for a bet? Something along the lines of.... if Floyd beats Oscar, you need to get rid of your Cotto pic and replace it with a Floyd pic that we'll choose? And then for your text under the photo, you'll have to put "Defensive Messiah."

ok we have a bet.

I am not an ODLH fan but now I am really going to have to root for him.
I don't know why I don't like Oscar but I just don't.
I guess my thinking is along the same lines as Vargas.
lol
oh and I already CC'd you earlier.

Ill bet someone else, that if Floyd loses to Oscar, instead of manning up and changing your sig to that, you'll either dissapear or sign up under a different name and post the same useless garbage. I mean really, why would you even spend any time on here if every shred of energy you have can't be devoted to hating on Mayweather, it's not like you have anything else to say most of the time.

Ill bet someone else, that if Floyd loses to Oscar, instead of manning up and changing your sig to that, you'll either dissapear or sign up under a different name and post the same useless garbage. I mean really, why would you even spend any time on here if every shred of energy you have can't be devoted to hating on Mayweather, it's not like you have anything else to say most of the time.

I am going nowhere and doing no such thing.

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Originally Posted by p4pking

Ill bet someone else, that if Floyd loses to Oscar, instead of manning up and changing your sig to that, you'll either dissapear or sign up under a different name and post the same useless garbage. I mean really, why would you even spend any time on here if every shred of energy you have can't be devoted to hating on Mayweather, it's not like you have anything else to say most of the time.

I am going nowhere and doing no such thing.

DAnny check your PM's

Originally Posted by p4pking

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Originally Posted by SweetPea

Early in the clip, he shows a combo that Corley threw with 1:33 left in the 1st round, and Floyd blocked all the punches with his gloves. If you're gonna make a clip like this, at least pick the punches that landed

Danny, would you be up for a bet? Something along the lines of.... if Floyd beats Oscar, you need to get rid of your Cotto pic and replace it with a Floyd pic that we'll choose? And then for your text under the photo, you'll have to put "Defensive Messiah."

ok we have a bet.

I am not an ODLH fan but now I am really going to have to root for him.
I don't know why I don't like Oscar but I just don't.
I guess my thinking is along the same lines as Vargas.
lol
oh and I already CC'd you earlier.

Ill bet someone else, that if Floyd loses to Oscar, instead of manning up and changing your sig to that, you'll either dissapear or sign up under a different name and post the same useless garbage. I mean really, why would you even spend any time on here if every shred of energy you have can't be devoted to hating on Mayweather, it's not like you have anything else to say most of the time.

Now now...there'll be no need in all that...just say..."My name is Danny-G...& I have seen the error of my ways. I will kiss the ring of the true P4P king & applaude in awe of alla his bling."

Either that...or just wash off your hate.

Either one.

a southpaw with speed and power and great condition puts pbf defense in a vulnerable position, its a matter of that southpaw being able to continue an onslaught.

corley
judah

watch how pbf's right hands covers his right side but a straight left catches pbf right on the spot, and while pbf left hand is covering his left body side, a right hook from a southpaw is there to hit pbf.

pbf defense is great agains conventional righty fighters, but i always had an idea of a great southpaw with outstanding condition with power and matching speed to knock pbf on his a$s, a winky wright with not much power but great defense and a southpaw stances with great boxing offense also can make pbf have to change defensive stance if not he'll have to really be offensive and against a winky damn that would be hard.

a perfect example of a southpaw with speed and power with outstanding condition is no other then manny "the deystroyer" pacquiao. i know a lot easily dismiss this thought but, pac is second rank p4p behind pbf in most p4p list so i always thought it is foolish to just dismiss the thought that pacman can knock pbf out. i can understand on how some may make a point about pacs defense is weak, but that too is foolish. pac has enough defense and more then enough offense to atleast have pbf having to change game plan. if pacs defense is so weak or his chin is weak then how come the 3 greatest featherweight recently hasn't ever put him on his ass or atleast beat him down if his defense is so weak then shouldn't he have lost via tko by now? nope prime pacman is way to brutal.

pac is no gatti nor is pac any of pbf past oppenents.

i still would love to see this fight, but pbf has move on way to far up. i'd love to see a straight left from pac land on pbf face, or a right hook over pbf miss left jab. whooooo that would put pbf on his a$s. and those brutal body shots, damn...

Originally Posted by BoxingGod

a southpaw with speed and power and great condition puts pbf defense in a vulnerable position, its a matter of that southpaw being able to continue an onslaught.

corley
judah

watch how pbf's right hands covers his right side but a straight left catches pbf right on the spot, and while pbf left hand is covering his left body side, a right hook from a southpaw is there to hit pbf.

pbf defense is great agains conventional righty fighters, but i always had an idea of a great southpaw with outstanding condition with power and matching speed to knock pbf on his a$s, a winky wright with not much power but great defense and a southpaw stances with great boxing offense also can make pbf have to change defensive stance if not he'll have to really be offensive and against a winky damn that would be hard.

a perfect example of a southpaw with speed and power with outstanding condition is no other then manny "the deystroyer" pacquiao. i know a lot easily dismiss this thought but, pac is second rank p4p behind pbf in most p4p list so i always thought it is foolish to just dismiss the thought that pacman can knock pbf out. i can understand on how some may make a point about pacs defense is weak, but that too is foolish. pac has enough defense and more then enough offense to atleast have pbf having to change game plan. if pacs defense is so weak or his chin is weak then how come the 3 greatest featherweight recently hasn't ever put him on his a** or atleast beat him down if his defense is so weak then shouldn't he have lost via tko by now? nope prime pacman is way to brutal.

pac is no gatti nor is pac any of pbf past oppenents.

i still would love to see this fight, but pbf has move on way to far up. i'd love to see a straight left from pac land on pbf face, or a right hook over pbf miss left jab. whooooo that would put pbf on his a$s. and those brutal body shots, damn...

It's funny.... You started off making perfect sense, as if you were actually about to embark on an informative post... Then it turns into how Pacman would KO Mayweather.. Somehow I'm not surprised... How bout this... Do you honestly feel Pacmans straight left hand has more power than Judahs??

you get a for this.

cotto was more hurt than PBF ever was against chop chop. to be all honest i was never really sure if PBF was hurt that round.

Originally Posted by p4pking

Originally Posted by BoxingGod

a southpaw with speed and power and great condition puts pbf defense in a vulnerable position, its a matter of that southpaw being able to continue an onslaught.

corley
judah

watch how pbf's right hands covers his right side but a straight left catches pbf right on the spot, and while pbf left hand is covering his left body side, a right hook from a southpaw is there to hit pbf.

pbf defense is great agains conventional righty fighters, but i always had an idea of a great southpaw with outstanding condition with power and matching speed to knock pbf on his a$s, a winky wright with not much power but great defense and a southpaw stances with great boxing offense also can make pbf have to change defensive stance if not he'll have to really be offensive and against a winky damn that would be hard.

a perfect example of a southpaw with speed and power with outstanding condition is no other then manny "the deystroyer" pacquiao. i know a lot easily dismiss this thought but, pac is second rank p4p behind pbf in most p4p list so i always thought it is foolish to just dismiss the thought that pacman can knock pbf out. i can understand on how some may make a point about pacs defense is weak, but that too is foolish. pac has enough defense and more then enough offense to atleast have pbf having to change game plan. if pacs defense is so weak or his chin is weak then how come the 3 greatest featherweight recently hasn't ever put him on his a** or atleast beat him down if his defense is so weak then shouldn't he have lost via tko by now? nope prime pacman is way to brutal.

pac is no gatti nor is pac any of pbf past oppenents.

i still would love to see this fight, but pbf has move on way to far up. i'd love to see a straight left from pac land on pbf face, or a right hook over pbf miss left jab. whooooo that would put pbf on his a$s. and those brutal body shots, damn...

It's funny.... You started off making perfect sense, as if you were actually about to embark on an informative post... Then it turns into how Pacman would KO Mayweather.. Somehow I'm not surprised... How bout this... Do you honestly feel Pacmans straight left hand has more power than Judahs??

maybe, but its a matter of constant left straight. judah failed to keep in condition and fight for 12 rounds, he owned pbf in the early rounds. we all know pac has heart and keeps coming with great condition.

Originally Posted by p4pking

Originally Posted by BoxingGod

a southpaw with speed and power and great condition puts pbf defense in a vulnerable position, its a matter of that southpaw being able to continue an onslaught.

corley
judah

watch how pbf's right hands covers his right side but a straight left catches pbf right on the spot, and while pbf left hand is covering his left body side, a right hook from a southpaw is there to hit pbf.

pbf defense is great agains conventional righty fighters, but i always had an idea of a great southpaw with outstanding condition with power and matching speed to knock pbf on his a$s, a winky wright with not much power but great defense and a southpaw stances with great boxing offense also can make pbf have to change defensive stance if not he'll have to really be offensive and against a winky damn that would be hard.

a perfect example of a southpaw with speed and power with outstanding condition is no other then manny "the deystroyer" pacquiao. i know a lot easily dismiss this thought but, pac is second rank p4p behind pbf in most p4p list so i always thought it is foolish to just dismiss the thought that pacman can knock pbf out. i can understand on how some may make a point about pacs defense is weak, but that too is foolish. pac has enough defense and more then enough offense to atleast have pbf having to change game plan. if pacs defense is so weak or his chin is weak then how come the 3 greatest featherweight recently hasn't ever put him on his a** or atleast beat him down if his defense is so weak then shouldn't he have lost via tko by now? nope prime pacman is way to brutal.

pac is no gatti nor is pac any of pbf past oppenents.

i still would love to see this fight, but pbf has move on way to far up. i'd love to see a straight left from pac land on pbf face, or a right hook over pbf miss left jab. whooooo that would put pbf on his a$s. and those brutal body shots, damn...

It's funny.... You started off making perfect sense, as if you were actually about to embark on an informative post... Then it turns into how Pacman would KO Mayweather.. Somehow I'm not surprised...

...and you honestly didn't see that coming?

Originally Posted by BoxingGod

maybe, but its a matter of constant left straight. judah failed to keep in condition and fight for 12 rounds, he owned pbf in the early rounds. we all know pac has heart and keeps coming with great condition.

Judah's conditioning was fine...he just fell apart & resorted to dispicable tactics once he lost his footing.

The thing is...Judah has 4-5 good rounds against Floyd & he owns him?

Please.

Since people like bringing Pac into the equation (one that he doesn't remotely belong in) let's get to it.

First & foremost having a few good rounds...& they were good against Floyd aint beating the man. There's a HUGE difference. Winning a handful of rounds does not a won fight make.

Now...Pac to Floyd. It aint like Floyd lost his fight against Judah, nor was he bloodied, bruised, cut & beaten down like Pac was against Morales in their first match. Floyd won the fight against Judah decisively. He didn't need a rematch to stop him or win or however you want to look at it, because he beat him soundly.

Using pressure & going the distance in bursts wasn't enough to beat Morales the first go around so how do you honestly believe it would be enough to take Floyd out who is the superior to both Pac & Morrales in lines of defense & speed? Power? Morales took that from Pac...so it's a good chance that the superior boxer (that's Floyd) could do the same against Pac.

When lighter weight fighters move up they generally lose either power, speed, or reflexes. Pac's move up to a weight around Floyd's would surely cause one of those to leave...he aint inhuman...neither is Floyd...hence the reason that I give Oscar the slight edge in beating him.

But Pac to Floyd? Not a reasonable comparison.

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Defensive Messiah?

A lot has been said about Cotto getting put on Queer Blvd and Stomping Cockroach Ave by DeMarcus Corley. Mostly the PBF fan boys throw that out there when ever they can.
Why don't they mention how Corley had PBF in trouble? They talk about how great Floyd's defense is. He was getting taxed by Corley

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This is the clown that says he is better than Sugar Ray Leonard?

Please.

he got caught like every great boxer does Sugar Ray Leonard is one of my favourite boxers and even he got floored by Kevin Howard who was only average it doesn't matter if you get caught Danny every great boxer in there time always does and you know why ?? because there only human and they make mistakes like everyone else

Man Lou Del Valle Floored RJJ so that means he is total shat Especially back in 1998 when he owned Boxing... Oh well sorry Roy


Shite man, were are the Cotto vs Torres and Cottovs Corley clips you know I would even settle for some Margaburrito vs Clottey or Margaburrito vs Santos.... #365 for all the energy, hatred and animosity it takes to consume your time with putting clips together... I'll tell you what, Floyd needs to get you on the payroll with all the free publicity he gets from you