Thread: Mayweather's opponents have been hand picked since 2002!

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Originally Posted by Rick_Rack

Cut ME Mick I couldnt agree with you more! ! !

Thanks man, just calling it how I see it.

Originally Posted by JT Rock

I dont know this Mayweather bashing gets quite tetious at times and old and redundant and quite frankly boring seriously boring!!!!!!!!

I know what you mean, it's happened to me with JCC, Margarito and ODLH.
Oddly enough they all back up their talk and still get downgraded, go figure

Originally Posted by zhubin

People please! Even if you are the biggest Floyd fan in the world...you are doing him discredit and making him look bad by saying he has fought great opposition. It always makes me laugh when Floyd fans start listing out the names: Gatti, Mitchell, Baldomir, Judah, etc. The man is a great fighter...no doubt...but his resume in the last few years is pitiful. This might be his fault or not....but that's the reality. You can try and sugar coat his opponents: Gatti was a tough guy, Baldomir was the champ, Judah is super talented, blah, blah, blah.....it's total bs.....Floyd knows it....and deep down so do his fans. Not saying he cannot fight great fighters and beat them...but so far he hasn't.

And I'm with 'ya....
There is NO DOUBT in my mind PBF is the most athletic, skilled boxer out there that I don't think anyone questions.
What is questioned is his quality of opposition and the fact that he claims to have fought the best.
Thats whats in question here and thats whats been questioned always. I don't I've ever read a post where someone bashe PBF for his skills and for anyone to do so would be ignorant.
Now his record/opposition that my friends is a horse of a different color theres a lot questions there.

I cant see why anyone would have fault with either Chavez or Delahoya they are genuine warriors and badasses.... Sorry I am the guy you are talking about when it comes to Margarito... Dont rate him worth a damn if Clottey didnt get hurt Margarito was getting the L, if he busts up Williams then I will give burrito his props

Floyd just may be as you say for now but who knows after this coming weekend he will be exposed even if he out points Oscar but he better watch out for the left hand Oscar can unleash at anytime in that fight!

Originally Posted by Rick_Rack

Floyd just may be as you say for now but who knows after this coming weekend he will be exposed even if he out points Oscar but he better watch out for the left hand Oscar can unleash at anytime in that fight!

Since when is Oscars left the end all be all Mayweathers chin is fine and his defense is tight... Mayorga would let anyone with a pulse look good...... Last fight, last impression

Mayweather hasn't really been tested yet by a fighter of this caliber dont you uderstand what I am trying to say to you? Mayweather has never fought or got hit by someone thats this powerful. Maybe your right and everything will be like you say. Doubt it though if your so sure you should have your bet in already and I no your going to tell me you do. If your so sure you can retire there stud. AS I said Doubt it! That kid is going to be tested even Im saying I think the kid will still win on points but wont be suprised if Oscar takes him out!

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by porkypara

Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.

Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.

The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.


I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.



Cant wait.

good point and thats why we don't have him as our p4p king anymore, we have the pacman and the wizard winky.

Back at you fella.CC

Mayweather's opponents have not been the Delahoya level no way, but he has fought decent guys. Hagler fought those kind of guys until he fought Duran/Hearns and Leonard. Who was mayweather supposed to fight? Margarito? I think the thing is that Mayweather's camp knows Margarito is tough and probably a harder fight than Delahoya... So why fight him for not much reward? But Mayweather has fought decent enough guys. Not HOF guys but good guys.

Originally Posted by porkypara

Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.

Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.

The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.


I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.



Cant wait.

This can be said of many fighters of late...Calzaghe, Hatton, Cotto, & the list goes on & on.

Just to elaborate a bit...Brusseles I can't embelish on.

Gatti was #2 at the time, HBO's poster bwoy, & a huge money match that Floyd didn't even want.

Sosa & N'dou were worthy contenders as was Corlely while Floyd was on the move up.

Mitchell was another no brainer, IWO, just like Brusseles.

Baldomir was the linear ranked champ & had pretty much hammered Judah the fwock out.

Judah was a huge fight that Floyd had wanted for years & he was coming off of a KO win over Spinks. Worthy opponent & a fight fans dream match.

Oscar is the fight that Floyd has wanted his entire career...Oscar denied him early on stating that he was not worthy...the money was now right & Floyd lands his dream fight...

As I said...as far as careful matching...the same can be said of most champions to date.

Originally Posted by porkypara

Since 2002 these are the blokes that Mayweather has fought Sosa,N'dou,Corlely,Bruseles,Gatti,Mitchell,Judah and Baldomir.

Not exactly a list of p4p fighters.All have styles that were picked to make Mayweather look good with the exception of Judah who was coming off a loss and has always been over rated by the US fight press.

The last dangerous live fighter he fought was Castillion back in December 2002.The fighters he fought previous to 2002 are of much better quality such as Castillio,Chavez,Corrales to name a few.


I think its a bit of a myth that Mayweather has been fighting the best out there and IMO Mayweather has been taken the easy option's for the last few years and this might be his down fall on the 5th.



Cant wait.

Newsflash ding bat; EVERYONE'S opponents are handpicked!

all top fighters hand pick there opponents now days. stop looking for something to bitch about.

I wanted to add that the guys Mayweather fought were guys Delahoya would not have beaten any more conclusively.. Maybe Oscar had a little more power, but Mayweather has fought some good decent guys. Genaro Hernandez, Zab Judah, Baldomir, Corrales, Castillo and on and on. Not a bad list at all. If I were a manager I would think those guys are not hand picked. True he has not fought the cream of the crop, but sometimes it takes getting to that superfight point to get the superfights. If he beats Oscar, they will line up guys for him of that caliber. Mosely,Wright, etc. I think the problem with Floyd at 154 is that I think the weight itself could beat him more than the fighters. The intrigue here is not Oscar since I know if Floyd were Oscar's size he would demolish him. Oscar's size or any good 154 pound fight with a longer reach and the experience or talent to use that reach and fight effectively could beat Floyd. Wright would be an interesting fight for Floyd . Sat. Night is a matter of can Floyd beat a good 154 pound fighter in a pressure fight. He is a small fighter who should not be fighting at 154. He is too small. If you look at Roberto Duran at 154 he was big compared to Floyd at the weight. As a matter of fact Roberto was not the small guy everyone thinks he was. He matched up well sizewise against other guys.

Yawn. How many times have I seen this exact same thread in the past year?

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

When you look at PBFs record you see he fought opponents like Bruseles, Jukko, Agustus, Rios. Opponents who had NO business fighting for that title ESPECIALLY when they were coming off loses.

PBF claims to have been the best at Super. Feather BUT he never bothered to face another Champ. I've said this before and I'll say it again my money would have been on 'Popo' Freitas if they would have met around 1999 from what I understand they were suppose to meet but instead PBF opted to face Carlos Gerena instead of a unifying match with 'Popo'.... The best at Super Feather? I don't think so, he was ONE of the BEST at that time but how do we know if he was better then 'Popo'?

Popo Freitas?? You've got to be kidding me. . . .

Didn't Floyd beat Coralles at super feather? (you know, Coralles, the guy who beat Popo down until Popo quit; you know, Coralles, the guy who was Ring Magazine's #6 P4P fighter at the time; you know, Coralles, the guy who was FAVORED by most boxing writers at the time to beat Floyd)

1st and foremost thanks for SC#13, heres CC#44 on me for replying I can respect that.

Originally Posted by Violent Bob

Popo Freitas?? You've got to be kidding me. . . .

No sir, I am not.

Originally Posted by Violent Bob

Didn't Floyd beat Coralles at super feather?

Yes, PBF did beat Corrales at Super Feather. in 2001
If you read my post I clearly stated that PBF-Poppo was/would have taken place in 1999.

Originally Posted by Violent Bob

(you know, Coralles, the guy who beat Popo down until Popo quit; you know, Coralles, the guy who was Ring Magazine's #6 P4P fighter at the time; you know, Coralles, the guy who was FAVORED by most boxing writers at the time to beat Floyd)

Again I clearly stated these events took place in 1999 when PBF was the Super. Feather. champ & Popo was the WBO Champ.
PBF beat Corrales 1st so how can you make an arguement that PBF beat Corrales who LATER beat Popo?
If Corrales would have beaten Popo prior to fighting PBF then I'd side with you and agree that PBF beat the Corrales the man.
And if you can dig up or give me names of these writers who favored 'Chico' I personally would really appreciate it I don't even need a link just names or site or something.

It aint all Floyds fault though. The only fighter he ducked was Margarito. But Hatton, Mosely, and Cotto haven't stepped up to the plate. Floyd's called them out.

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

And if you can dig up or give me names of these writers who favored 'Chico' I personally would really appreciate it I don't even need a link just names or site or something.

Watch the HBO telecast of that fight. You'll hear them talking about how Coralles was favored to win. And #6 on the Ring's P4P list (a list "Popo" Freitas never came close to cracking). Get serious.