Thread: Pacquiao vs Marquez II

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Chris N.

Where do they get their info anyways?

Haven't got a clue always wondered that.

wouldnt that be funny if they got it from us? lol
like if they saw HULK post a rumor and they go ahead and post it on their own site

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by GAME

Originally Posted by El Gamo

JMM nearly had MAB stopped and the marked face means nothing. Jaca and Terdsak both busted JMMs face up,does that mean they were winning? And MAB landed more jabs,JMM landed more power shots. Emphasis in scoring is on hard punching.

I said Barrera threw and landed more shots . Most of JMMs powerpunches were landed in the round he got floored himself . Also getting marked up more means you got the worst of it in most cases . Barrera emerged pretty unmarked as he did a good job of avoiding and blocking . Marquez though looked like he'd been hit by a bus .

And like I said Just because you;re face is busted doesnt mean you didn't win. If thats the case,Manny mauled JMM,but we all know he didn't. And I can manipulate punch stats just as easily,MAB threw nearly all his jabs in the first half of the fight,and most of his activity came in sporadic rounds too.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by GAME

Originally Posted by El Gamo

JMM nearly had MAB stopped and the marked face means nothing. Jaca and Terdsak both busted JMMs face up,does that mean they were winning? And MAB landed more jabs,JMM landed more power shots. Emphasis in scoring is on hard punching.

I said Barrera threw and landed more shots . Most of JMMs powerpunches were landed in the round he got floored himself . Also getting marked up more means you got the worst of it in most cases . Barrera emerged pretty unmarked as he did a good job of avoiding and blocking . Marquez though looked like he'd been hit by a bus .

Yes exactly people always bring up Marquez landed more power shots but he had two massive rounds where he landed ton more power punches but other than that they were pretty even in power punches department.

JMM won....end of.He'd win a rematch too,MAB is not the fighter he once was. He knew he didn't have the potential to bang so he tried to box the master counter puncher and got beaten and nearly stopped.

Like i said if Pac vs Marquez fight can't happen then Barrera vs Marquez 2 would be great 2nd prize i don't think you would be to disappointed Gamo

Originally Posted by GAME

Pac is the guy who has probably improved since the last time they met . If anything Marquez has got worse . He's slowed down and his reflexes arent as good as they were . His main problem though is that he stands his ground more . If he fights Pac like how he fought Barrera , I think he gets knocked out .

If he can still box for 12 rounds at pace then I belive he can win on points . I think he won the 1st fight but his lapse in concentration in the 1st cost him .

for the real talk GAME, ooh and damn our rappers are shyt ugly dmx is the only one that look human foreal

I'd like either jmm rematch mab or pac , but I don't want to see jmm mab rematch before pacs jmm, because jmm might lose in the rematch with mab and that would cancel out the rematch with pac and may bring pac mab II, which i don't want to see mab have to go through i know his tough but eric was as tough and we saw what happen to him....

lets just plssssssss see pac jmm II!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by El Gamo

JMM nearly had MAB stopped and the marked face means nothing. Jaca and Terdsak both busted JMMs face up,does that mean they were winning? And MAB landed more jabs,JMM landed more power shots. Emphasis in scoring is on hard punching.

Your perception of scoring is questionable

The fight was VERY close no doubt imo, no way Marquez won by more then a round I think there are 5 definite rounds for Barrera and lots of close ones which is what made that 7th round point swing so important.

Anyways, Boxrec is about as reliable as a dog is for stock advice. If you remember, they had Mayweather slated to face Cintron for the longest time.

Originally Posted by josef4334

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

JMM beats Pac this time, more convincingly.

wow.. another pac hater..

I'm definately not a Pac hater. Love to see him fight. I just think JMM has his number.

Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by El Gamo

JMM nearly had MAB stopped and the marked face means nothing. Jaca and Terdsak both busted JMMs face up,does that mean they were winning? And MAB landed more jabs,JMM landed more power shots. Emphasis in scoring is on hard punching.

Your perception of scoring is questionable

ERRRRRR.....what are are the 4 criteria of scoring? How many marks someone face has? I don't know if you've heard Harold Lederman but emphasis is on clean hard punching and effective agression,both of which JMM did in abundance especially towards the end of the fight. If you're going to make a statement like that,at least back it up


You're right ICB,I wouldnt mind seeing the fight again but I'd muc much rather see the Pac fight made. A second fight with MAB would take even more out of JMM who is clearly on the slide.,leaving easy pickings for the monster Manny. If he can't fight MannymI'd love to see an Mab fiht but also a Soto fight or a Guzman fight would be awesome too. Barrios names has also been mentioned.

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by josef4334

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Originally Posted by wacko3205

What amazes me is that Marquez was dropped brutally three times in their first fight & then was able to get back in the saddle & box Pacquiao to a draw...which I personally feel that Marquez won.

It was a great night for boxing...& in the end...if Marquez boxes again...he will defeat Pacquiao.

If he tries to go toe to toe...he might taste the mat again.

That was 3 years ago (5/08/04). We've witnessed the 1-D Pac against hot prime Dinamita.

Besides Burt Clemens helped JMM to get the draw from his scoring error.

But none of that matters now.

This is it.. complete arsenal prime Pacman vs worn-out Dinamita.

LET'S GET IT ON! C'MON!

Speaking of worn out...let's watch that Solis fight again.

There aint S*** worn out about Marquez...he's just standing & figthing more now to please the fans. I wouldn't be so sure that Pac will be able to handle Marquez this go around...but either way...it should be a great fight with plenty of drama.

lets give pac a slack ok.. he has like about 99 things in his mind before that fight and that includes a legal battle between Top Rank and GBP and his candidacy in the philippine election. marquez opens up the way he fought barrera he would hit the sack more than 3 times..

Give Pac some slack?

Please...it's his own fault if he's got too much on the brain.

He needs to pick a career...either lay offa trying to be a D- singer, D- actor, half assed politician, carpenter, plumber, veterinarian, F grade brain surgeon, tennis player, bull runner, & just concentrate on being the brick thrower of a fighter that he is.

:P

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Originally Posted by josef4334

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

JMM beats Pac this time, more convincingly.

wow.. another pac hater..

I'm definately not a Pac hater. Love to see him fight. I just think JMM has his number.

Disagree i thought Pac won and Marquez certainly doesn't have Pacs number and Pac has improved since there fight where as Marquez is starting to fade imo and i agree with everything you said Game.

This part i strongly agree with let me just copy and paste it Game

If anything Marquez has got worse . He's slowed down and his reflexes arent as good as they were . His main problem though is that he stands his ground more . If he fights Pac like how he fought Barrera ,

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by miles

Originally Posted by El Gamo

JMM nearly had MAB stopped and the marked face means nothing. Jaca and Terdsak both busted JMMs face up,does that mean they were winning? And MAB landed more jabs,JMM landed more power shots. Emphasis in scoring is on hard punching.

Your perception of scoring is questionable

I agree

El Gamo - If anyone was on teh verge of getting stopped it was Marquez . His best shots bounced off Barrera but it only took 1 shot from Marco to drop JMM and leave him dazed for 5 minutes

Originally Posted by wacko3205

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Originally Posted by josef4334

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

JMM beats Pac this time, more convincingly.

wow.. another pac hater..

I'm definately not a Pac hater. Love to see him fight. I just think JMM has his number.

Disagree i thought Pac won and Marquez certainly doesn't have Pacs number and Pac has improved since there fight where as Marquez is starting to fade imo and i agree with everything you said Game.

This part i strongly agree with let me just copy and paste it Game

If anything Marquez has got worse . He's slowed down and his reflexes arent as good as they were . His main problem though is that he stands his ground more . If he fights Pac like how he fought Barrera ,

+873

That was a tremendous fight...so far the fight of the year. So i would have no problem seeing MAB/JMM 2. But both fighters also really want a rematch with Pac. At this point i would have no problem with Marco retiring...he has nothing left to prove. But if he decides to fight again...whether it's JMM or Pac...he would be no pushover.