Thread: Jermain to sack Steward

Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65

Originally Posted by THE Bigragu

Originally Posted by No Contest

He didnt respond to him, was he even listening is the question. I did see the oother cornerman leanin in at Talking in Jermains ear alot. Manny was as pissed as I've ever seen him..that was the most exciting part of that fight, the break between rounds....

Steward is one of the best...if you're not going to listen to him get the hell out of there....Let Steward train guys that want to be the best and learn....Taylor obviously thinks he knows everything....

I think he was one of the best. Problem with Steward is that he is not developing anyone anymore really. He gets guys who were already good and now earns the big money. The only real fighters he ever had were Hilmer Kenty, Thomas Hearns, Milton McCrory, Michael Moorer, Leonzar Barber guys like that. Now he acts like because he is on HBO commentating that he can yell at his fighter like that.. I just think that was the wrong approach.

So, you know for fact that that's not how Steward has been training all along?....just wondering...because you don't forget how to train....He is spending more time as an analyst now but that wouldn't affect the way he trains.....

If Taylor does'nt start listening he is gonna get KTSO very soon.He's taking on smaller men than him and not looking good what happens if he fights a genuine SW or moves up.He is gonna struggle if he keeps on like this.

wow, how the tides have turned..This is quite amusing actually.

Everyone is jumping on the blame steward bandwagon, but if you actually watched the entire fight, even after the decision you could fully understand JT's mentality going into that fight. After the fight he was quoted saying "I'm the champ, he cant take my title running" To me that says JT did not want to give his full effort in that fight, he felt he had it won before the opening bell, and did not have any sense of urgency. That has to be the most frustrating thing to know as a trainer, from round one manny told him to stop thinking so much with spinks and BANG those punches!
steward has done this for all his life, anyone thinking that he's losing his touch because one knucklehead thinks he's too good to try is ludicrous.
For steward to act the way he did, is completely attributed to the way JT was acting as a professional. It must be hard to train guys with a warrior spirit like holyfield, hearns, lewis, ODLH, then to go to JT who did not want to fight, must of been so aggravating. If JT drops steward I'm not to sure that steward will mind much.

Jermain Steward wasnt he a singer or was that Jermain Stuart lol

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

jermain taylor is a dumb a** and this move makes sense..because he wants to be cuddled in the corner...so now he can go back to his other trainer so he can be told he's winning when he's not..what a F****** idiot...steward should train pavlik

#70 bro. How funny would that be if Manny masterminded a Pavlik victory over Taylor?

Taylor has fought 3 good southpaws in a row. Winky, Ouma and Spinks. Fact is, fighting such fighters is the most frustrating experience any boxer can endure.

Instead of firing steward, Taylor simply needs to take a sabbatical, humble himself and become motivated to listen to the best trainer in the business Emanuel Steward.

If for whatever reason Taylor can't communicate with Steward, than he should find another trainer. It doesn't speak well of Taylor that that he can't listen to the guy, but whatever, different trainers are better for different fighters. I think Jermaine feels a little invinible right now. He's been reading too many of his own press clippings.

Originally Posted by LegendBoxing65

Originally Posted by THE Bigragu

Originally Posted by No Contest

He didnt respond to him, was he even listening is the question. I did see the oother cornerman leanin in at Talking in Jermains ear alot. Manny was as pissed as I've ever seen him..that was the most exciting part of that fight, the break between rounds....

Steward is one of the best...if you're not going to listen to him get the hell out of there....Let Steward train guys that want to be the best and learn....Taylor obviously thinks he knows everything....

I think he was one of the best. Problem with Steward is that he is not developing anyone anymore really. He gets guys who were already good and now earns the big money. The only real fighters he ever had were Hilmer Kenty, Thomas Hearns, Milton McCrory, Michael Moorer, Leonzar Barber guys like that. Now he acts like because he is on HBO commentating that he can yell at his fighter like that.. I just think that was the wrong approach.

Steward is one of the few big trainers that develops fighters. He still works with lots of amateurs. He has his own stable of fighters and lots of nobodies. I don't know of any other big name trainers still going to amateur tournaments with their own fighters.
Besides that you just named 5 guys that he took from nobodies to champs. You can't argue with those kind of results. I like Roach and all, but name 1 fighter he's brought all the way up from amateur to champ. Name one for Goosen, heck even Angelo Dundee. Steward gets on my nerves sometimes but it's real hard to criticize those kind of results.

If Taylor sacks Steward, wouldn't it be poetic justice if Andy Lee beats Taylors ass a few years down the road?

Taylor and Steward are not working as a unit at all. Its quite a bizarre relationship really. I fully emphasize with Steward. Taylor just doesnt respond to his corner.

Steward needs no part of any further involvement with Taylor, its not worth it. I cannot imagine what they are like in the gym!

Taylor listens to Taylor... If I were Manny I'd dip on this kid and tell him to pound sand cuz thats gonna be the only thing he's pounding if he continues to diregard his corner!!

If steward was giving him bad advice, then i would have put the blame on steward. A boxer shouldn't need a trainer to tell him the fight is close. the boxer should know that on his own. If you get hit with 10 shots, you know how to count don't you? That means you have to hit the other fighter with at least 10 shots or more.

If Taylor listened to Steward, IMO, he would do better. But, If Taylor is too cocky, or just doesn't mesh with Steward, then he should find someone more compatible. In my eyes, Taylor should learn how to follow directions. But, it's his life, his call.

Manny should drop Jermain if anything.....Manny has ANDY LEE, a great young fighter who will actually do what he's told!

Jermain has his head up his ass and he had best UN-FUCK himself before his next fight

if anyone has spents significant time in the southern/midwest U.S...places like Memphis, Tn, and little rock, ARK..guys like Jermain Taylor become extremely complacent and content when they taste a bit of real cash..taylor was through caring about the sport when he beat bhop...now he's only in it for the money, he doesn't want to be great..

but he's so dumb that he doesn't realize that greater he strives to be, the more money he will make...Damn he's a fucking dumb ASS..and dropping manny really pisses me off...