don't know..but i think prince is slick enough to duck and counter, but manny is quick enough to land sometimes too...don't know if PAC could take prince's power though, but naz could take his because prince did have a chin...

Naz had a good chin for sure he only had flash knockdowns against him and some he was off balance he had to take big full blooded shots off Barrera i think Naz could stop the Pacman i think sometimes Naz's power gets underrated

really? I don't remember anyone not acknowledging naz's power..i remember "them" once talking about him being able ko light heavys, but his height would have affected his ability to fight that high..but then "they" also said mayorga ko'ed a horse...

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

don't know..but i think prince is slick enough to duck and counter, but manny is quick enough to land sometimes too...don't know if PAC could take prince's power though, but naz could take his because prince did have a chin...

Naz has a chin coz he never got stopped before, Jose Luis Castillo is also known for his chin has been stopped before by a lighter framed CESAR Cobrita Sotto. PAC moving up in weight and maturing "seemed" to strnghthen his chin quite abit, I see PAC stopping NAZ this time.

Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO

Naz had a good chin for sure he only had flash knockdowns against him and some he was off balance he had to take big full blooded shots off Barrera i think Naz could stop the Pacman i think sometimes Naz's power gets underrated

Naz can't lose to anyone in your eyes how about Tyson vs Naz how would that have gone


Regarding this fight well i might agree that Naz could win because Pacs come forward pressure style could be disaster for Pac.

Originally Posted by GP100

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

don't know..but i think prince is slick enough to duck and counter, but manny is quick enough to land sometimes too...don't know if PAC could take prince's power though, but naz could take his because prince did have a chin...

Naz has a chin coz he never got stopped before, Jose Luis Castillo is also known for his chin has been stopped before by a lighter framed CESAR Cobrita Sotto. PAC moving up in weight and maturing "seemed" to strnghthen his chin quite abit, I see PAC stopping NAZ this time.

you said that as if they've fought before...

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO

Naz had a good chin for sure he only had flash knockdowns against him and some he was off balance he had to take big full blooded shots off Barrera i think Naz could stop the Pacman i think sometimes Naz's power gets underrated

Naz can't lose to anyone in your eyes how about Tyson vs Naz how would that have gone


Regarding this fight well i might agree that Naz could win because Pacs come forward pressure style could be disaster for Pac.

I admit he lost to Barrera fare and square but im saying the glove thing did'nt help him mentally he did'nt get time to warm up he did'nt do his flip it was a really bad night for Naz from start to finish but i think Morales and Pac were made for him

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

Originally Posted by GP100

Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather

don't know..but i think prince is slick enough to duck and counter, but manny is quick enough to land sometimes too...don't know if PAC could take prince's power though, but naz could take his because prince did have a chin...

Naz has a chin coz he never got stopped before, Jose Luis Castillo is also known for his chin has been stopped before by a lighter framed CESAR Cobrita Sotto. PAC moving up in weight and maturing "seemed" to strnghthen his chin quite abit, I see PAC stopping NAZ this time.

I said it because I honestly thought before that NAZ would beat PAC if they fought.

you said that as if they've fought before...

Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO

Naz had a good chin for sure he only had flash knockdowns against him and some he was off balance he had to take big full blooded shots off Barrera i think Naz could stop the Pacman i think sometimes Naz's power gets underrated

Naz can't lose to anyone in your eyes how about Tyson vs Naz how would that have gone


Regarding this fight well i might agree that Naz could win because Pacs come forward pressure style could be disaster for Pac.

I admit he lost to Barrera fare and square but im saying the glove thing did'nt help him mentally he did'nt get time to warm up he did'nt do his flip it was a really bad night for Naz from start to finish but i think Morales and Pac were made for him

this stupidity has to stop, the glove thing and he couldnt do the flip...!!!!

why didnt he have time to warm up, him and barrera was under the excact same conditions.. simply another stupid argument..

btw.. naz would get knocked down by pacquiao..

personallyim a huge barrare fan, and prime vs prime, im not totally sure he could beat pacquiao, but one thing is for sure, and that is naz would be out powered by pacquiao, out worked and out speeded.. no chance for naz

2 very exciting offensive fighters, that are wide open and have defense pretty low on their priority list in the ring... Lets just say this isin't goint to the judges

Hard to say... Naz had devestating power and cat like reflexes, Pac is reminescent of the Tazmanian Devil just a nonstop pressure punching whirlwind..... definetly would be a FOTY candidate

Naz is a arrogant, cocky, and slacker.

He got floored by Kelley.

He got bitchslapped by Barrera.

And ofcourse we all know what Pac did to Barrera.

I hated is damn corny half hour ring entrances.

Originally Posted by JT Rock

2 very exciting offensive fighters, that are wide open and have defense pretty low on their priority list in the ring... Lets just say this isin't goint to the judges

Hard to say... Naz had devestating power and cat like reflexes, Pac is reminescent of the Tazmanian Devil just a nonstop pressure punching whirlwind..... definetly would be a FOTY candidate

no its really not hard to say..

against who did naz have catlike reflexes, against the one and only elite guy he fought, or the huys brought in, to make him look good..??we all know the answer to that one..

the difference is, that while naz looked powerfull and quick against b-level opponents, pac has done it against simply the best..

Originally Posted by greatdane

Originally Posted by JT Rock

2 very exciting offensive fighters, that are wide open and have defense pretty low on their priority list in the ring... Lets just say this isin't goint to the judges

Hard to say... Naz had devestating power and cat like reflexes, Pac is reminescent of the Tazmanian Devil just a nonstop pressure punching whirlwind..... definetly would be a FOTY candidate

no its really not hard to say..

against who did naz have catlike reflexes, against the one and only elite guy he fought, or the huys brought in, to make him look good..??we all know the answer to that one..

the difference is, that while naz looked powerfull and quick against b-level opponents, pac has done it against simply the best..

kevin kelley was more than b-rated

Kevin Kelley was'nt B rated neither was Medina,Johnson or Vasquez Johnson was number 1 when they met and Vasquez was current WBA champ

when i say b-fighters, its compared to what i call a fighters, and at that time a means barrera, marquez and morales..

and lets not forget, that it wasnt prime kelley naz fought.. he was a tought guy, but past his prime..