Thread: Wlad's NEXT IBF MANDATORY

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster  Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t  rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being consistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the brock and byrd fights without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

I second every good sense comment Punisher posted and would like to add that please don't expect that a fighter who was knocked out like that to go after his executioner like he's head hunting, Klitchko is no Floyd Patterson to go for it after being beaten that bad, he hopes to wear down this guy and leave him no alternative but to be halted by the ref

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin

i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...

if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....

if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....

if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..

like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...

but since your a hater hate its your job...

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

I second every good sense comment Punisher posted and would like to add that please don't expect that a fighter who was knocked out like that to go after his executioner like he's head hunting, Klitchko is no Floyd Patterson to go for it after being beaten that bad, he hopes to wear down this guy and leave him no alternative but to be halted by the ref

OK DORF jump in the bet... change your name to klitchko if klitchko wins...

OR IS ALL THE KLITCHKO HATERS TALKIN TONIGHT

i'm putting my neck on the line.... i think wlad has a 2/1 odds of winning so i think there is a very real possibility for klitch to lose and for me to look kinda of dumb...

but i wouldnt go to a fighters thread and point out all the reasons why he is overrated and predict my fighter would knock him out... unless i had the b@lls to bet...

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin

i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...

if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....

if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....

if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..

like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...

but since your a hater hate its your job...

I've said ONE thing about peter on this WHOLE thread and thats what your focusing on. I have yet to hear you defend any of his losses (especially the purity one, i want a GREAT explaination for that) I've said i'll own up to it if wlad wins this fight (you'll find that quote in a recent thread), if he doesn't you'll find some stamina excuse or find some "shady" knockdown that happened. Accepot the fact that the man has lost beofre and can be beaten again, its not out of the question. He's no Vitali...

the name change is for two weeks....if the challenge is accepted...

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin

i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...

if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....

if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....

if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..

like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...

but since your a hater hate its your job...

I've said ONE thing about peter on this WHOLE thread and thats what your focusing on. I have yet to hear you defend any of his losses (especially the purity one, i want a GREAT explaination for that) I've said i'll own up to it if wlad wins this fight (you'll find that quote in a recent thread), if he doesn't you'll find some stamina excuse or find some "shady" knockdown that happened. Accepot the fact that the man has lost beofre and can be beaten again, its not out of the question. He's no Vitali...

blah blah blah its obvious to those who will read our conversation who really believes in what he says and who dont... you talk, i walk

here is my best explanation for wlad's dominance...

name me ONE FIGHTER that you would pick(strong enough were you would actually bet on it) that would beat the highly overrated klitchko...

truthfully i have heard the haters rail klitchko since before the sanders fight... i dont care what you say back it up....

d@mn you and dorf made my day by revealing that even the biggest klitchko haters dont really believe it(proof: not betting) you all just simply hate on him...

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin

i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...

if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....

if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....

if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..

like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...

but since your a hater hate its your job...

I've said ONE thing about peter on this WHOLE thread and thats what your focusing on. I have yet to hear you defend any of his losses (especially the purity one, i want a GREAT explaination for that) I've said i'll own up to it if wlad wins this fight (you'll find that quote in a recent thread), if he doesn't you'll find some stamina excuse or find some "shady" knockdown that happened. Accepot the fact that the man has lost beofre and can be beaten again, its not out of the question. He's no Vitali...

blah blah blah its obvious to those who will read our conversation who really believes in what he says and who dont... you talk, i walk

here is my best explanation for wlad's dominance...

name me ONE FIGHTER that you would pick(strong enough were you would actually bet on it) that would beat the highly overrated klitchko...

truthfully i have heard the haters rail klitchko since before the sanders fight... i dont care what you say back it up....

d@mn you and dorf made my day by revealing that even the biggest klitchko haters dont really believe it(proof: not betting) you all just simply hate on him...

First of all, i'm considering changing my name to Water . Secondly, Have i said wlad is overrated? No. Never have. Me pulling up his losses and asking for explainations that are legit and not excuses doesn't = hating. It equals me not blindly following the guy who everybody else is saying is the best fighter in the division (which will be a complete inaccuracy come september). I'm not betting on it because i don't feel as strong about this as i do about gatti gomez (current on going bet with a guy who doesn't have alittle over 200 posts ).

You're making it sound like i have said "No way in hell can wlad's china chin hold up against brewster. Wlad is overrated and crap". I'm not ruling out the possibility of wlad winning, a brewster win by ko late just makes more sense to me.

Me responding for you so you don't have to:

"Blah Blah Blah.

You hate wlad.

I still won't tell you why any of your points are wrong, i'm just gonna call you a hater.

Why won't you bet me?

You are scared."

(insert a bunch of unnecessary elipses and that should be 100% accurate)

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

With or without the rabbit punches?
what a joke

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

blah blah blah i see ya talkin but i dont see ya walkin

i havent made ANY EXCUSES FOR WLAD YOU ARE THE ONE USING EXCUSES FOR PETER...

if you wont bet with brewster on your side... NAME ME ANY HW THAT YOU DO THINK WILL BEAT WLAD.... oh yeah you do think brewster will knock him out(talking) but you wont bet on it(walking).......... go ahead hide behind your words of hate....

if he is SO D@MN OVERRATED THEN BET ME....

if brewster dont beat Wlad no one can.... peter is his only other threat and klitch will beat his a$$ worst the second go round..

like i said if you liked a fighter and he got knocked down 3 times and got up and dominated the second half of the fight you would call it the "heart of a champions" material...

but since your a hater hate its your job...

I've said ONE thing about peter on this WHOLE thread and thats what your focusing on. I have yet to hear you defend any of his losses (especially the purity one, i want a GREAT explaination for that) I've said i'll own up to it if wlad wins this fight (you'll find that quote in a recent thread), if he doesn't you'll find some stamina excuse or find some "shady" knockdown that happened. Accepot the fact that the man has lost beofre and can be beaten again, its not out of the question. He's no Vitali...

blah blah blah its obvious to those who will read our conversation who really believes in what he says and who dont... you talk, i walk

here is my best explanation for wlad's dominance...

name me ONE FIGHTER that you would pick(strong enough were you would actually bet on it) that would beat the highly overrated klitchko...

truthfully i have heard the haters rail klitchko since before the sanders fight... i dont care what you say back it up....

d@mn you and dorf made my day by revealing that even the biggest klitchko haters dont really believe it(proof: not betting) you all just simply hate on him...

First of all, i'm considering changing my name to Water . Secondly, Have i said wlad is overrated? No. Never have. Me pulling up his losses and asking for explainations that are legit and not excuses doesn't = hating. It equals me not blindly following the guy who everybody else is saying is the best fighter in the division (which will be a complete inaccuracy come september). I'm not betting on it because i don't feel as strong about this as i do about gatti gomez (current on going bet with a guy who doesn't have alittle over 200 posts ).

You're making it sound like i have said "No way in hell can wlad's china chin hold up against brewster. Wlad is overrated and crap". I'm not ruling out the possibility of wlad winning, a brewster win by ko late just makes more sense to me.

Me responding for you so you don't have to:

"Blah Blah Blah.

You hate wlad.

I still won't tell you why any of your points are wrong, i'm just gonna call you a hater.

Why won't you bet me?

You are scared."

(insert a bunch of unnecessary elipses and that should be 100% accurate)

ok again... wlads losses to brewster and sanders ko doesnt mean he has a china chin ANY ONE COULD GET KNOCKED OUT BY THOSE TWO but he reflects his bad defence which he has corrected...

the purity loss he punched himself out...

wlad lost all of them with out excuses from me...

you was talking so boldly of the late round ko of klitchko until the bet came up ...

i never said klitchko was the best fighter in the world you debating me with the assumption that everyone on here including me thinks he is a god....

you wont give a fighter to beat wlad... but wlad isnt as good as i think he is ..sure ...

haters hate its your job



but i hope everyone caught the fact that even haters dont bet against wlad against one of wlad's biggest threats!!!!! Sounds like Wlads made some believers out there

Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

With or without the rabbit punches?
what a joke

Peter's like 8 inches shorter than wlad, how the fuck can he rabbit punch him?

pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...

the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..

come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)

First of all, i'm considering changing my name to Water .
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One thing I think has been made totally clear in this thread is that hater's hate its our job.

Seriously why is it a bad thing to dislike certain fighters. I can't stand certain fighters, Wlad included, why is that such a bad thing?

I'm not betting you because i never said Wlad was overrated, in fact on numerous occasion's i've said (regardless of how sad the division is) that he is the best out there (and again i'll say until september comes around). I still say brewster will win by late ko. I'm not just changing my mind because you say something.

Originally Posted by Fire

pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...

the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..

come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)

Vitali for one
Peter would in a rematch
I'd put my money on povetkin in a few years
There's also a few up and comers i'm undecided on.

I want to make clear that i like klitchko(he is my fav fighter) because he is a good man... he helps kids in africa and eastern europe.... i like him as a person....

and he kicks a$$