Thread: Can someone explain the ABC belts to me

Like if someone is fighting to be the heavyweight champion of the world.. aren't there like 5 belts they can be talking about? Also are there some crap belts that don't mean anything? Which ones matter?

ignore them

the only one that matters is The Ring Championship belt

buy the magazine and look at their ratings page. That will give you an idea of who the main men are in each weight division

Agreed the Ring magazaine and ring belts are the best to go one....subscribed this month....hard as fuck to find in south wales tell ya

Originally Posted by MustangAce

Like if someone is fighting to be the heavyweight champion of the world.. aren't there like 5 belts they can be talking about? Also are there some crap belts that don't mean anything? Which ones matter?

Truth is that with so many titles going around the Ring Belt is what most authorities go on.....It is not generated by money nor is it just handed out without merit...there are no sanctioning fees...it is purely a belt owned on merit of skill

As far as the other belts go...The only ones truly recognized as WORLD titles are the WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO...The wbo title is the weakest of all the organizations followed by the IBF....

This of course is all determined on bankroll....The richer your company the bigger player you are

I dont agree that that any of the Alphabet titles are stronger or weaker than the other you know... i mean these days id say its not the belt that makes the champion....THE CHAMP MAKES THE BELT....

The Ring is the one that matters although they don't sanction fights or have an actual belt (thanks for the correction Sal)

After that the big 4 alphabet titles

in order of importance (My opinion of course)

WBC
WBA
IBF
WBO

Then you have what I consider minor league titles

IBO
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IBA
GBC
GBO
GBU
WBF
WBU

Below that you have regional titles many flavors of each

NABA
FedaCarib
Latino
BBB of C
Commonwealth
EBA
EBA-EE
EBA-EU
TAB
PABA
South American

Below that there are national and state titles for just about any
country, state, province and territory that allows boxing.

Furthermore, if title-holder changes weight-class and might not come
back in time to fight the sanctioning bodies annual mandatory challenger
they vacate the title and the sanctioning body with have either
a match between the #1 and #2 ranked boxers to become the
interim champ or give it to someone the sanctioning body
deems as a good draw, that will defend the title until the first boxer
comes back to take it away.

Lastly, if a title-holder is going on a long time injury they become
the Emetrius champion which means they get an immediate title
shot when they return to the ring.

All of the rules, ranking and specifics are not set in stone
and may be swayed by money, influence and business leverage.

hope that clears things up

Originally Posted by killersheep

The Ring is the one that matters although they don't sanction fights or have an actual belt

ring has a belt, its this one

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by killersheep

The Ring is the one that matters although they don't sanction fights or have an actual belt

ring has a belt, its this one

My bad I forgot they were handing them out again, they stopped for a while and started again in 2002

Originally Posted by MustangAce

Like if someone is fighting to be the heavyweight champion of the world.. aren't there like 5 belts they can be talking about? Also are there some crap belts that don't mean anything? Which ones matter?

Welcome to the board mate, CC (stick around long enough and you'll understand what CC(coolclick) means)

there is no right or wonr gbelt, (real killersheeps post it will explain alot)

there as a time when the WBC belt is the best belt, its an organisation belt and the 'best', then people will regard the IBF belt as the second the WBA in third with the WBO last, (the ring still will nto recognise the wbo as a legit belt)

but tbh mate its all down to you, like most i say the ring is the best belt, you can onyl get that belt by the number 1 trankd fighter in said wieght beats the number two ranked figher in that wight - special cercumstances the number 3 ranked fighter by the ring mag, and the ring are generally the best people to rank fighters, again no one will ever fully agree with eveyr ranking, its not possible, but they are close to it...

But like i said its up to you, once upon a time a fighter was only as good as the belt he hold, now personally i rank the worth of the belt by the fighter who holds it.

To give you just a quick breakdown, at light welterweight hatton is siad to be the bes,t he holds the ring and IBO belt, calzaghe is the best SMW and holds the WBO and ring belt, klitchko the best heavy and holds the IBO/IBF... each devisons best holds a different ABC belt, so its up to you whom you class, or how you rate them...

hope i didn't confuse you even more, i know i shouldn't post when drunk, but still:P

Originally Posted by Tins06

Agreed the Ring magazaine and ring belts are the best to go one....subscribed this month....hard as F*** to find in south wales tell ya

Any WH-smiths should sell it lol, i pick mine up from swansea lol

Originally Posted by killersheep

The Ring is the one that matters although they don't sanction fights or have an actual belt (thanks for the correction Sal)

After that the big 4 alphabet titles

in order of importance (My opinion of course)

WBC
WBA
IBF
WBO

Then you have what I consider minor league titles

IBO
IBA
GBC
GBO
GBU
WBF

Below that you have regional titles many flavors of each

NABA
FedaCarib
Latino
BBB of C
Commonwealth
EBA
EBA-EE
EBA-EU
TAB
PABA
South American

Below that there are national and state titles for just about any
country, state, province and territory that allows boxing.

hope that clears things up

mate, nice break down for him..

Although, i would class the IBO in a league of its own atm, its better than the other shit belts, but not quite as good as the top four... its like a back up belt i think to hold an ABC belt if you have the ring, or with a top four belt, no major fighter will bother with any of the others though...

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by killersheep

The Ring is the one that matters although they don't sanction fights or have an actual belt (thanks for the correction Sal)

After that the big 4 alphabet titles

in order of importance (My opinion of course)

WBC
WBA
IBF
WBO

Then you have what I consider minor league titles

IBO
IBA
GBC
GBO
GBU
WBF

Below that you have regional titles many flavors of each

NABA
FedaCarib
Latino
BBB of C
Commonwealth
EBA
EBA-EE
EBA-EU
TAB
PABA
South American

Below that there are national and state titles for just about any
country, state, province and territory that allows boxing.

hope that clears things up

mate, nice break down for him..

Although, i would class the IBO in a league of its own atm, its better than the other shit belts, but not quite as good as the top four... its like a back up belt i think to hold an ABC belt if you have the ring, or with a top four belt, no major fighter will bother with any of the others though...

CC back man, that was exhausting, I did put a line to denote the IBO as a higher than the other minors.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by Preme

Originally Posted by killersheep

The Ring is the one that matters although they don't sanction fights or have an actual belt (thanks for the correction Sal)

After that the big 4 alphabet titles

in order of importance (My opinion of course)

WBC
WBA
IBF
WBO

Then you have what I consider minor league titles

IBO
IBA
GBC
GBO
GBU
WBF

Below that you have regional titles many flavors of each

NABA
FedaCarib
Latino
BBB of C
Commonwealth
EBA
EBA-EE
EBA-EU
TAB
PABA
South American

Below that there are national and state titles for just about any
country, state, province and territory that allows boxing.

hope that clears things up

mate, nice break down for him..

Although, i would class the IBO in a league of its own atm, its better than the other S*** belts, but not quite as good as the top four... its like a back up belt i think to hold an ABC belt if you have the ring, or with a top four belt, no major fighter will bother with any of the others though...

CC back man, that was exhausting, I did put a line to denote the IBO as a higher than the other minors.

to many belts aint it lol, WBU is another shit one, cracke dme up how ahtton held onto the for so lone like it was such a great thing to have lol

I heard Tye Fields won the WTF Belt last night for his impressive win

Originally Posted by killersheep

The Ring is the one that matters although they don't sanction fights or have an actual belt (thanks for the correction Sal)

After that the big 4 alphabet titles

in order of importance (My opinion of course)

WBC
WBA
IBF
WBO

Then you have what I consider minor league titles

IBO
------------------
IBA
GBC
GBO
GBU
WBF
WBU

Below that you have regional titles many flavors of each

NABA
FedaCarib
Latino
BBB of C
Commonwealth
EBA
EBA-EE
EBA-EU
TAB
PABA
South American

Below that there are national and state titles for just about any
country, state, province and territory that allows boxing.

Furthermore, if title-holder changes weight-class and might not come
back in time to fight the sanctioning bodies annual mandatory challenger
they vacate the title and the sanctioning body with have either
a match between the #1 and #2 ranked boxers to become the
interim champ or give it to someone the sanctioning body
deems as a good draw, that will defend the title until the first boxer
comes back to take it away.

Lastly, if a title-holder is going on a long time injury they become
the Emetrius champion which means they get an immediate title
shot when they return to the ring.

All of the rules, ranking and specifics are not set in stone
and may be swayed by money, influence and business leverage.

hope that clears things up

I had no idea there were so many. cc to you . How in the world do you remeber them all??