Right i like trying all different styles and im watching Mayweather and i would love to learn the shoudler roll i just wanted to ask how you do it ??

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Read what Thomas Tabin has said about the shoulder-roll, he does an excellent job in explaining how to do it. You ought to read what he says in his post about strategy, and the natural counter for the shoulder roll. It really clears things up if you want a good idea on how to set your opponent up.

Freddie Roach goes over how to do the shoulder-roll for Titleboxing that's worth watching. He shows you how to do it, the natural counters to the shoulder-roll, and gives you a couple tips so that you won't be eating a right hand when you're doing it. If you want to dig it up, I've posted in the download section a few months back. I think it's called 'Freddie Roaches Advanced Boxing Techniques'. He also goes over rolling away from a punch and countering in that tape.

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Do you have a link mate?

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Do a search. He has several posts that go over it.

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Thank Thomas Tabin.

I dunno Ice Cold, its a difficult manouevere to pull off and theres a heap of practice involved, which may be better spent practising offense?? Jus a thought man?

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Just wanted to bring this topic back as i tried this in sparring few times, at 1st it didn't work too well. But as i got more and more used to it. It started to work very well and i could counter my opponent while using shoulder roll its an excellent technique.

Some just call it the lay back, or shoulder raise. Which is what Mayweather does imo.

Simply stand in you're orthadox stance, then drop your right shoulder. The shoulder automatically comes up, move your left hand to your right hip and put your right hand to your right cheek.

I think this move is why many think Mayweathers style is flawed and can be beaten.

The secret to the technique is dont move the head, but move everthing else.

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I'm going to go with hitmanD on this one. Another thing is that it doesn't seem like the kind of thing you learn by asking people on the internet! PBF can do it because PBF can do anything. And you're not PBF. Study tape and try it once you've mastered basics. But try it with a trainer who can instruct you....

Scrap, interesting. True, but interesting because I was watching Friday night fights last nght and Teddy Atlas was saying what made Benitez and Sweetpea such amazing defensive fighteres was their head movement, BUT also the fact that they always looked up. Two very opposing philosophies to great defensive strategies... but also done by some of the best p4p fighters ever....

With an attitude like that you definitely will never learn it.

Von youre probably right, I dont like talking Technique on here for that reason just the Biomechanics of the movement. Head cannot move without giving the body inbalance and bad posture its the muscles below the kneck that give the movement which move the joints to give good posture and Balance to the Head. So the head has the ability for movement througth the Body to be aware of where whats trying to hit it is coming from and balance to do something correctly about it.

I guess you didn't read my whole fin post.

I you watch it's sometimes useless against a good right hook. Unless you're standing facing the opponent which Mayweather does.

It's only really used by most against a right cross.