Thread: Arce vs. Penalosa looms

Arce looms as Gerry’s opponent
By Joaquin Henson
Saturday, September 8, 2007

Mexican brawler Jorge Arce is being lined up as a future challenger for WBO bantamweight champion Gerry Peñalosa and if the fight materializes, it will likely be in a Las Vegas pay-per-view card.

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have to go with gerry on this one. hope it pushes through.

Gerry will school Arce.

Arce has no business moving up to Bantam he needs to stay there at Super Fly. and get some wins.

Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft

Gerry will school Arce.

if the bigger ponce de leon had problems with gerry, i don't see how arce can overcome the naturally bigger penalosa. i see arce even having problems with tomas rojas this coming 16th.

Shucks! I'm really for a de Leon rematch, and win or lose, end his career with a big bang. He's got nothing to lose fighting de Leon but everything to gain. Imagine him beating two great champions in a row. Although I have strong doubt about it and favor de Leon 60-40, it's not a very farfetched possibility for Gerry to win. He had de Leon running in the last couple of rounds in the last fight, which just means he was hurt cuz there was no solid indication he was far ahead in points to afford running, except in the 'crooked' (did that sound like crooks? ) eyes of judges. I can live with the decision, but not the scoring, the fight which many well-known boxing analysts thought Gerry won. If I remember it right, two judges gave Gerry no rounds, while the last one gave him just one round! or something like that, a typical uncle Golden Boy robbery - what a heck, uncle Golden Boy is one of my favorite boxers. There was a good thread by El Gamo few weeks back where de Leon's coach or manager lamentated his horrble performance in that fight - it was like he was admitting defeat. Another good related thread by El Gamo (Gamo again! where are the others? - you're a posting genius, Gamo, thanks) something about 'keeping busy' being a criteria(ium) for scoring - that's stupid, anybody can pretend being busy, and in boxing terms, that could be like hitting nothing but gloves and air and getting credit for that. That's exactly what de Leon was doing, cuz if he weren't, an old Gerry wouldn't have lasted 12 full rounds and had de Leon running in the end. Just see how beautifully he blocked almost all de Leons body shot to the side (those were aimed at his kidneys and believe me they really hurt) - he just lowered his elbow everytime it came without even looking at it! As I said, I'd still favor de Leon in a rematch but what I'm saying is the it's a risk worth taking - naw, it's a risk he must take. And if he did pull it off, it'll be just exact opposite of what they criticize pac of - an ol' shot fighter beating two great champions in their prime, in succession! Geez, that's a stuff for HOF. On the other hand, what does Gerry gain by fighting a fighter coming from the lower weight class and coming off a defeat? I'll let others answer that.

Digressing a bit, let me talk about Arce. He is a good fighter who relies mostly on his heart and good (but not super) power - he just overwhelms his opponents by his sheer persistance - in other words, he just keeps coming back at you until you can take no more. Duran and Barrera falls in this category of boxer. But just like Barrera, he has to learn to dance a bit, though I didn't mean chicken dance as some boxers do. He should start to learn to 'box' - to dance and counter - and then, I think he'll be a more well-balanced and complete boxer - a great future champ. I'm pretty sure he will.

Thanks for the credit Penelosafan,I do start some ingenius threads don't I! lol.seriosuly,I thought the first Gerry and Ponce fight was close but I don't see how Gerry could be given the decision if he was only throwing a few punches a round,which did appear to have more effect but Ponce was the more consistent. It was almost exactly like Margarito Williams for the first 5.

In the rematch,I would have to go for Ponce. For some reason,v Gerry,thry tried to make him a volume puncher and not a power puncher that he naturally is. I think when he sits down on his shots,it'll have more of an effect on Gerry.

As for Arce v Gerry,there is a very low chance of that fight happening. I don't think Jorge wants to fight slick tactician again,not for a while and Gerry is even slicker than Mijares imo. Arce is facing Rojas then will most likely face Martin Castillo. Gerry may make a defence and then face Ponce in PI.

Penalosa vs De Leon would be more exciting. But if the fight with Arce happens, I will definitely watch it.

haha lolipop sucking cowboy arce, this guy is at best a b- fighter. penalosa will embarrass him worst then mijares. this fight should not even happen, it'll be a waste of time for penalosa. His at the last few fights of his career, he has got to get a rematch with daniel.

arce should go fight vic, loser vs loser

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

haha lolipop sucking cowboy arce, this guy is at best a b- fighter. penalosa will embarrass him worst then mijares. this fight should not even happen, it'll be a waste of time for penalosa. His at the last few fights of his career, he has got to get a rematch with daniel.

arce should go fight vic, loser vs loser

yeah, come to think of it a fight with arce would have been a lot lot better had arce not lost so terribly against mijares. a rematch with de leon would only be advisable for the right price. i'd rather have gerry stay at 118lbs and try to unify either against sidorenko or hasegawa.

I believe, a fight with Arce would be more lucrative than a unification fight.Penalosa should go for Arce.

I heard a different report in Boxing News magazine. They say that should Arce come through his next fight at bantam, he'll challenge Martin Castillo on the undercard to Cotto-Mosley.