Thread: How long before Mayweather is stripped of his belt by the WBC?

He is the universally recognized Welterweight Champion but he has not fought a Welterweight since he won the title. By the time he fights DLH again. It will be nearly 2 years without a mandatory defense.

BTW this is not a nock on Mayweather, I'm just curious if this is something that will happen soon. Also we could see some interesting developements since Andre Berto is currently WBC's #1 contender and that ain't likely to change for a while.

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

He is the universally recognized Welterweight Champion but he has not fought a Welterweight since he won the title. By the time he fights DLH again. It will be nearly 2 years without a mandatory defense.

BTW this is not a nock on Mayweather, I'm just curious if this is something that will happen soon. Also we could see some interesting developements since Andre Berto is currently WBC's #1 contender and that ain't likely to change for a while.

Hatton was the #1 contender for his welterweight belt when they fought for that last December.

He won't fight a natural welter, it ain't his thing

A good point. Mayweather is not keen on facing any real 147lbers is he?

Im possibly being ironic.

I wish people would shut up saying Floyd doesn't fight any real welterweights.

Baldomir was the UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNISED welterweight world champ

Zab Judah was the former UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNISED welterweight world champ.

De La Hoya was the former WBC WELTERWEIGHT world champ

Hatton was the former WBA WELTERWEIGHT world champ

Floyd has fought 4 times at welterweight, 3 of those fights were against former welterweight world champs, one was still the reigning champ.

What people mean when they say he hasn't faced a real welterweight is that he hasn't faced Cotto or another fighter that they want him to face yet.

His career isn't over, he WILL fight all those fights just give him time.

Originally Posted by leftylee

Hatton was the #1 contender for his welterweight belt when they fought for that last December.

Is that official? How was Hatton the #1 contender?

Originally Posted by leftylee

Hatton was the #1 contender for his welterweight belt when they fought for that last December.

He won't fight a natural welter, it ain't his thing

Exactly. After Hatton vs Mayweather was signed, the WBC announced that Hatton was the #1 Mandatory Challenger for the WBC Welterweight Title.

Thus, Mayweathers next mandatory will not be due until December 2008, and after that he could always ask for an extension, which are frequently granted for their biggest money makers.

Originally Posted by miles

Im possibly being ironic.

No really you ain't. Sharmba Mitchell was shot to fuck, Zab Judah was coming off a loss and he chooses the most predictable fighter Baldomir who just ploughs forward which you can then pick him off and run. Baldomir had like 9 losses also when he fought Floyd

There's guys like Margarito, Cotto, Cintron and Williams he could have and can fight but he won't

The WBC can do any thing they want. Like when David Diaz was made WBC interim lightweight champ, even though Joel Casamayor had not shown any indication that he would not meet his next mandatory. ANd then in hilarious fashion, the WBC strips Casamayor of the World title and gives it to Diaz, and take Diaz interim title and gives it to Casamayor.


That is why I am a strong supporter of the most credible title in boxing:THE RING.

Originally Posted by bilbo

I wish people would shut up saying Floyd doesn't fight any real welterweights.

Baldomir was the UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNISED welterweight world champ- As I mentioned he had 9 losses and was the most predictable fighter ever, just hit him and run

Zab Judah was the former UNDISPUTED UNIVERSALLY RECOGNISED welterweight world champ- he was coming off a loss.

De La Hoya was the former WBC WELTERWEIGHT world champ - oh yes but YEARS ago and when Floyd fought him he was a part-time fighter and not the same as he was when Oscar was welter champ.

Hatton was the former WBA WELTERWEIGHT world champ - who looked totally awful and nearly got KO'd in the latter rounds against Collazo and even his team said he was a natural 140 pounder.

Floyd has fought 4 times at welterweight, 3 of those fights were against former welterweight world champs, one was still the reigning champ.

What people mean when they say he hasn't faced a real welterweight is that he hasn't faced Cotto or another fighter that they want him to face yet.- Margarito who he ducked.

His career isn't over, he WILL fight all those fights just give him time.

No really he won't Dildo.

As for "Former champions" You said it Ol'bo

Originally Posted by leftylee

No really you ain't. Sharmba Mitchell was shot to fuck, Zab Judah was coming off a loss and he chooses the most predictable fighter Baldomir who just ploughs forward which you can then pick him off and run. Baldomir had like 9 losses also when he fought Floyd

There's guys like Margarito, Cotto, Cintron and Williams he could have and can fight but he won't

How could he have played it any different at WW? He made the fight with Zab before the Baldomir loss, when Zab was the undisputed lineal champ. How is that not trying to fight the real WW champ. Then Zab loses. He fights him anyway, but that pretty much forced him to fight Baldy if he wanted the lineal title. He could have not fought Baldomir, but then he would be ignoring the real lineal champ. I guess he could have fought Cotto instead of Oscar, but that would would have made about ZERO business sense.

Hatton was the universally recognized 140lb champ and former beltholder at 147. Are would you give Kessler or Calzaghe crap for defending against and beating Kelly Pavlik? The univeral champ one weight class below is almost always a legit defense.

He'll fight Cotto eventually. If he doesn't fight Cotto with the next two years, we can bitch, because Cotto is the ONLY fighter who has really earned a shot at Floyd at 147. Tony screwed himself when he lost to Williams. Cintron? Please! Williams? Can we stop with that now. If Tony beats Cintron, then beats Cotto, or if Cintron beats Tony then Cotto (yeah, right) those guys will have claim.

Originally Posted by leftylee

No really you ain't. Sharmba Mitchell was shot to fuck, Zab Judah was coming off a loss and he chooses the most predictable fighter Baldomir who just ploughs forward which you can then pick him off and run. Baldomir had like 9 losses also when he fought Floyd

There's guys like Margarito, Cotto, Cintron and Williams he could have and can fight but he won't

You might have had a point if you didn't say Margarito. He has 4 legit losses and several of Baldomir's 9 may have been attributed to homecooking in favor of the other fighter. Baldomir, who just ploughs forward would give Margarito a ton of trouble and considering he legitimately beat Zab Judah I fail to understand how you find fault with Mayweather defeating him. I don't see how you find fault with him fighting Zab Judah on his 2nd outing at 147. At the time, Judah was definitely still elite and only had 3 losses to his record.
Sharmba Mitchell was his first fight at 147, whereas Paul Williams had had how many fights when he fought him AFTER?

Just proves people will see what they want to see regardless of the situation, but just to go a step further he just got through defending his belt to someone who was in the weight class. Granted Hatton knows he isn't a welter and probably won't venture to 147 again, but it was just as legit of a defense as going up to SMW and taking Oscar's belt.

The only fight that makes sense for PBF right now is Cotto and I wish he weren't wasting his time on a rematch with DLH. But I say this fight gets made next year (unless they scrap the DLH rematch).

Originally Posted by RozzySean

How could he have played it any different at WW? He made the fight with Zab before the Baldomir loss, when Zab was the undisputed lineal champ. How is that not trying to fight the real WW champ. Then Zab loses. He fights him anyway, but that pretty much forced him to fight Baldy if he wanted the lineal title. He could have not fought Baldomir, but then he would be ignoring the real lineal champ. I guess he could have fought Cotto instead of Oscar, but that would would have made about ZERO business sense.

You just summed it up yourself mate, Floyd ain't a fighter he's a businessman and has lost all of my respect for that.

Hatton was the universally recognized 140lb champ and former beltholder at 147. Are would you give Kessler or Calzaghe crap for defending against and beating Kelly Pavlik? The univeral champ one weight class below is almost always a legit defense.

No offence mate but why are you talking about that, the fight has not happend and your going completely off subject and Kelly Pavlik can fight at sup-mid and feels good at the weight unlike what Hatton stated and Pavlik looked impressive beating JT at sup-mid wheras Hatton did not when beating Collazo so yes I would give Calzaghe or Kessler praise if they beat Pavlik for the reasons I stated.

He'll fight Cotto eventually. If he doesn't fight Cotto with the next two years, we can bitch, because Cotto is the ONLY fighter who has really earned a shot at Floyd at 147. Tony screwed himself when he lost to Williams. Cintron? Please! Williams? Can we stop with that now. If Tony beats Cintron, then beats Cotto, or if Cintron beats Tony then Cotto (yeah, right) those guys will have claim.

And a part time ODLH deserves a shot why ?? He beat him rather simple the first time and with DLH a year older how will that improve his chance of beating Floyd "Fights no welter" Mayweather ??.

BTW Your wrong mate on the first statement, PBF fought Zab after the Baldomir loss

Zab Judah

I'm sure the WBC wants to have their name attached to the guy who is the unquestioned #1 PFP fighter in the world.

They might grant him an exemption for this fight, as long as he fights a welter in his next fight.

Mayweather-cotto needs to happen