Thread: WBA, WBC, IBF, etc

Which of the current title belts would you consider is held in the highest regard?

Up until last year I would have said the WBA hands down, however since they brought in the Super title I think they have reduced themselves some what, for example in November 2007 David Haye beat Jean Marc Mormeck for the WBA title, however in the same month Firat Aslan beat Virgil Hill also for the WBA title?? Mormeck was seen as the WBA super champion, but what would have happened if he had vacated the WBC belt or not paid the sanctioning fees, are you then left with 2 WBA champions?

I personally have always liked the WBC but they also recently declared Sam Peter (Intrim Champion) the full champion following his fight with Jameel McCline, then however when Maskaev made a dramatic come back, he was given the title back and Sam Peter was the Interim champion again Until he obviously beat Maskaev and became the WBC Champ.

WBO is being held in higher regard recently but I still feel this is mainly due to Joe Calzaghe and still see it as a lower belt.

So I think I am swinging towards the IBF, any comments ?

Neither of them have any particular stature in my eyes..."The champ makes the belt" - my motto

WBC is THE belt.

1, The Ring Magazine belt

2, WBC

3, WBA

4, IBF

5, IBO

6, WBO

The Ring
WBC
IBF
WBA
WBO
IBO

Out of the alphabet titles, clearly the WBC is the most credible. Mainly because it has the most champions that are also recognized as the real/The Ring champions.

THere champs are the same at the The Ring/The Real champ in

Crusier
Lt Heavy
Middle
Welter
Super Feather
Junior Feather
Jr. Fly

I dont think any other organizaiton comes close.

Then you have the WBO and IBF

Last would be the WBA which has become a complete joke, by having up to 3 wba champs per division. And there regular title. A disgrace.

Originally Posted by jmbtandy

Which of the current title belts would you consider is held in the highest regard?

Up until last year I would have said the WBA hands down, however since they brought in the Super title I think they have reduced themselves some what, for example in November 2007 David Haye beat Jean Marc Mormeck for the WBA title, however in the same month Firat Aslan beat Virgil Hill also for the WBA title?? Mormeck was seen as the WBA super champion, but what would have happened if he had vacated the WBC belt or not paid the sanctioning fees, are you then left with 2 WBA champions?

I personally have always liked the WBC but they also recently declared Sam Peter (Intrim Champion) the full champion following his fight with Jameel McCline, then however when Maskaev made a dramatic come back, he was given the title back and Sam Peter was the Interim champion again Until he obviously beat Maskaev and became the WBC Champ.

WBO is being held in higher regard recently but I still feel this is mainly due to Joe Calzaghe and still see it as a lower belt.

So I think I am swinging towards the IBF, any comments ?

Like you i disrespect this super champion lark..

The wbc are corrupt more then most know.. its all about money to them..

Wbo are regarded lower but do actually do the right things for theyre champions.. mind you theyr rankings are strange at the least.. and they do cater a fair bit to certain promoters etc..

Ibf in my opinion were one of the best but theyr takes on mandatory fights tend to become quite irritating..

But at the end of the day it doesnt matter to me..

I rate the champ who took whatever belt of the real champ..

I've got to go with WBA still.It is the oldest of the Belts and still makes the most sense of this mess we have in boxing.Before 1962 it was called the NBA National Boxing Association.<----Food for thought

Ring title is obviously the most credible due to the fact it is a title that is won, you can not be stripped of it, it does not matter who your promoter is, it is simply what a wold champion is..."The man who beat the champion"

Out of the ABC titles,

WBC- Most recognized, biggest financial backing, most coveted

IBF- Seems to be the least contraversial out of the original big 3 (WBC, WBA, IBF)...swayed least by promoter influence

WBA- At one time I considered them the most legit out of the organizations until they started with all this...Super Champion, World Champion, Champion of the Hour, Champion while the other guy goes to visit his sister, Champion sometimes but only if we are not mad at him then forget it we don't know who he is but if any of the other champions are busy he can fill in for a minute....The place is lacking direction

WBO- At one time almost unheard of..Not even taken the slightest bit seriously, the NABF and USBA titles were more coveted...but the WBO has stuck around and has had some great champions over the last decade and a half....

De La Hoya, Barrera, Cotto, Calzaghe, Both Klitschko Brothers, Mercer, Margarito etc....They seem focused on themselves and pick up more credibility as time goes on....IMO in 5 or so years it will top both the WBA and IBF....

IBO- I am not really sure this is a title....It seems like every time we have a champion wiuth more then one of the big 4 the IBO title somehow shows up in his collection....He didn't have it before and you can never remember him fighting to win it....Plus when he loses all the other titles he somehow seems to keep that one.....It is kind of like a bonus belt....Win 2 get ours free....

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Ring title is obviously the most credible due to the fact it is a title that is won, you can not be stripped of it, it does not matter who your promoter is, it is simply what a wold champion is..."The man who beat the champion"

Out of the ABC titles,

WBC- Most recognized, biggest financial backing, most coveted

IBF- Seems to be the least contraversial out of the original big 3 (WBC, WBA, IBF)...swayed least by promoter influence

WBA- At one time I considered them the most legit out of the organizations until they started with all this...Super Champion, World Champion, Champion of the Hour, Champion while the other guy goes to visit his sister, Champion sometimes but only if we are not mad at him then forget it we don't know who he is but if any of the other champions are busy he can fill in for a minute....The place is lacking direction

WBO- At one time almost unheard of..Not even taken the slightest bit seriously, the NABF and USBA titles were more coveted...but the WBO has stuck around and has had some great champions over the last decade and a half....

De La Hoya, Barrera, Cotto, Calzaghe, Both Klitschko Brothers, Mercer, Margarito etc....They seem focused on themselves and pick up more credibility as time goes on....IMO in 5 or so years it will top both the WBA and IBF....

IBO- I am not really sure this is a title....It seems like every time we have a champion wiuth more then one of the big 4 the IBO title somehow shows up in his collection....He didn't have it before and you can never remember him fighting to win it....Plus when he loses all the other titles he somehow seems to keep that one.....It is kind of like a bonus belt....Win 2 get ours free....

Good read Daxx , .................

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Ring title is obviously the most credible due to the fact it is a title that is won, you can not be stripped of it, it does not matter who your promoter is, it is simply what a wold champion is..."The man who beat the champion"

Out of the ABC titles,

WBC- Most recognized, biggest financial backing, most coveted

IBF- Seems to be the least contraversial out of the original big 3 (WBC, WBA, IBF)...swayed least by promoter influence

WBA- At one time I considered them the most legit out of the organizations until they started with all this...Super Champion, World Champion, Champion of the Hour, Champion while the other guy goes to visit his sister, Champion sometimes but only if we are not mad at him then forget it we don't know who he is but if any of the other champions are busy he can fill in for a minute....The place is lacking direction

WBO- At one time almost unheard of..Not even taken the slightest bit seriously, the NABF and USBA titles were more coveted...but the WBO has stuck around and has had some great champions over the last decade and a half....

De La Hoya, Barrera, Cotto, Calzaghe, Both Klitschko Brothers, Mercer, Margarito etc....They seem focused on themselves and pick up more credibility as time goes on....IMO in 5 or so years it will top both the WBA and IBF....

IBO- I am not really sure this is a title....It seems like every time we have a champion wiuth more then one of the big 4 the IBO title somehow shows up in his collection....He didn't have it before and you can never remember him fighting to win it....Plus when he loses all the other titles he somehow seems to keep that one.....It is kind of like a bonus belt....Win 2 get ours free....

Good read, like it, and totally agreed

The Ring should b the only 1 that matters,and is the only 1 that matters 2 me these days.The Alphabets are doing more damage 2 the Sport than the dodgy promoters,hopefully 1 day Boxers and promoters get sick of them and start taking the Ring belt more sereously,and the Alphabets die off! Cant see it happening anytime soon.

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