Thread: The fix is in

"I am boycotting this fight. I really have trouble fathoming Oscar’s motivations for this fight outside of money. I think this bout is merely the action of a promoter, not a fighter, who has bigger plans for Pacman and Hatton down the road. If he can bolster Pac’s already high regard with a huge win over a giant by comparison, then he can make a super fight out of Hatton-Pacquiao bigger than it already would be. I hope I’m wrong, but I think Oscar might tank this one. This bout stinks to me. Both have plenty of other viable options in front of them. No Pick.”
- Derek Bonnett

Derek Bonnett works for Secondsout.com and before big fights they ask staff members to predict the outcome of the fight. When I read this yesterday I thought "no way, this guy is nuts" but after watching the fight today I think he might be on to something.

Oscar fought with no passion, no heart, no determination and quit on his stool.

I think there are three possible things that could have happened here:-

1) Getting down to 147 drained everything out of DLH. (unlikely since he came in two pounds under)

2) DLH was hampered by an illness or injury that we are unaware of or

3) He threw the fight.


I've been watching Oscar a long time, and tonight he was awful. He didn't throw any fucking punches. Damn hard to win a fight without throwing shots.

This fight farce was a celeb show drama from jump off.Im just glad its over frankly.

DLH was pure garbage. Absolutely agree with that.

He was bust up, exhausted after 6...and all that done by a fighter that was 3 weight classes outside what he was a year ago. That is a humiliation and schooling of the highest order.

And I loved every second of it. Thats got to be the end of the orange phoney now, surely.

Why would anybody want to pay 55 dollars to watch him again??

Originally Posted by Greig

"I am boycotting this fight. I really have trouble fathoming Oscar’s motivations for this fight outside of money. I think this bout is merely the action of a promoter, not a fighter, who has bigger plans for Pacman and Hatton down the road. If he can bolster Pac’s already high regard with a huge win over a giant by comparison, then he can make a super fight out of Hatton-Pacquiao bigger than it already would be. I hope I’m wrong, but I think Oscar might tank this one. This bout stinks to me. Both have plenty of other viable options in front of them. No Pick.”
- Derek Bonnett

Derek Bonnett works for Secondsout.com and before big fights they ask staff members to predict the outcome of the fight. When I read this yesterday I thought "no way, this guy is nuts" but after watching the fight today I think he might be on to something.

Oscar fought with no passion, no heart, no determination and quit on his stool.

I think there are three possible things that could have happened here:-

1) Getting down to 147 drained everything out of DLH. (unlikely since he came in two pounds under)

2) DLH was hampered by an illness or injury that we are unaware of or

3) He threw the fight.


I've been watching Oscar a long time, and tonight he was awful. He didn't throw any fucking punches. Damn hard to win a fight without throwing shots.

If ODH threw that fight I have more respect for him than ever. That's one tough bastard to take a beating like that willingly. Not to mention the embarrassment. I think he was overtrained based upon the weight and the fact he was flat from the get go. Pac looked great but ODH looked weak and slow from the start.

I don't think ODH is tough enough or thick skinned enough to take that beating on purpose. And the public humiliation to top it off.

Originally Posted by luvfightgame

If ODH threw that fight I have more respect for him than ever. That's one tough bastard to take a beating like that willingly. Not to mention the embarrassment. I think he was overtrained based upon the weight and the fact he was flat from the get go. Pac looked great but ODH looked weak and slow from the start.

I don't think ODH is tough enough or thick skinned enough to take that beating on purpose. And the public humiliation to top it off.

Exactly. Pure beatdown. Nothing more, nothing less. Fighters do what they do to get fights...and the path to them. It is never an excuse, or shouldn't be...even if its true with him being drained.

And it certainly was not rigged. Oscar was genuinely messed the hell up.

Originally Posted by Greig

"I am boycotting this fight. I really have trouble fathoming Oscar’s motivations for this fight outside of money. I think this bout is merely the action of a promoter, not a fighter, who has bigger plans for Pacman and Hatton down the road. If he can bolster Pac’s already high regard with a huge win over a giant by comparison, then he can make a super fight out of Hatton-Pacquiao bigger than it already would be. I hope I’m wrong, but I think Oscar might tank this one. This bout stinks to me. Both have plenty of other viable options in front of them. No Pick.”
- Derek Bonnett

Derek Bonnett works for Secondsout.com and before big fights they ask staff members to predict the outcome of the fight. When I read this yesterday I thought "no way, this guy is nuts" but after watching the fight today I think he might be on to something.

Oscar fought with no passion, no heart, no determination and quit on his stool.

I think there are three possible things that could have happened here:-

1) Getting down to 147 drained everything out of DLH. (unlikely since he came in two pounds under)

2) DLH was hampered by an illness or injury that we are unaware of or

3) He threw the fight.


I've been watching Oscar a long time, and tonight he was awful. He didn't throw any fucking punches. Damn hard to win a fight without throwing shots.

I knew there would be excuses but I know the truth, Oscar's thong was on too tight and it was bothering him and that is why she looked so stiff I think had he worn high heels he/she would have moved a lot more

I don't buy it.

If Oscar really wanted to win the fight he should have jumped all over Pac, making his size and strength advantages count. He fought like he was the smaller guy

Oscar didn't give his all.

He was doing that until he tasted a two-punch combo. Right about 30 seconds into the first round.

Then the complexity of his gameplan eroded every second, and every hit he received until he was reduced to a shell of a fighter, cowering in fear.

Wondering, more than fighting... How can you overcome being hit one after another in relentless fashion, and the other hand be faced with one darn elusive target.

IT was a psychological breakdown. It is what Freddie calls, "can't pull the trigger anymore".

I haven't watached yet, but I did say all along that this would happen, the fight stunk from the moment it was signed. Not gonna take anything away from Manny, coz I'm sure he fought great as usual, but DLH was never planned to win this fight

Originally Posted by BIG H

I haven't watached yet, but I did say all along that this would happen, the fight stunk from the moment it was signed. Not gonna take anything away from Manny, coz I'm sure he fought great as usual, but DLH was never planned to win this fight

Yep, something about this fight stinks.

Oscar's effort was pathetic.

“I’m not shocked. At this stage, when you face a great fighter like Manny, then it is almost expected. I worked hard and I trained hard. But like I told people, in the gym, it is a whole different story."

Quote from Oscar after the fight.

If Pac came out flat, and took a beatdown from Oscar...and people were posting this sorta stuff, I'm fairly sure you and many others would be calling them names and/or laughing at them.

So, erm, yea.

And I've rewatched the fight numerous times already. Oscar was flat, and got his ass beat. And Roach was right, he had no trigger to pull. And I don't care the reason...but it was not some kinda fix. He got pummeled. Badly. Maybe go rewatch it if you can't get your head around it.

If Pac had come out and, despite a hall of fame career, big height, weight and reach advantages, fought like he'd never seen a boxing ring before quitting on his stool after 8 rounds AND was the owner of a promotional company that stood to make SQULLIONS of dollars putting on a fight between his opponent and a ridiculously popular Mancunian, then, yeah, I'd be saying the same things.

So, erm, yea.

Where was the effort from Oscar? Where was the fire? Seemed to me like he was happy staying on the outside eating leather.

He looked like he let Pacman in most of the time, I was shouting at the bloody screen, I don't know it just seemed off to me compared to his other fights. I mean he quit on his stool in 8 rounds, sure he was taking a beating but he didn't try anything different, it was frustrating to watch.

No way Oscar threw this fight , that theory is totally flawed.

Oscar makes more money from fighting Hatton himself than he does from promoting a Pac Vs Hatton fight. The theory of him throwing the fight for financial gain is just stupid.

He'd make more money in the long run by beating Pac