Thread: Oquendo got screwed and Toney is done

I've seen worse robberies, but Toney definately got a gift decision. Light's Out is one of my favorites, but it's time for the fat man to hang em up and concentrated on eating full time.

I feel bad for Fres. He deserved a break for putting in a good performance such short notice.

If you have to squeek out a gift decision(even the mainstream press are calling it that) against a Fres Oquendo who only got the fight on a weeks notice,its over. Pack it in.
Well thats the third career in a week that became no longer commercially viable

i like james toney too, but its time for him to call it a career

Yeah that was def a gift decision. I also hated that Toney Basically turns his head won when Fres was punching and baited Fres into hitting him in the back of the head thus costing him a point and a draw.

Fres Oquendo has now been on the end of two bad decisions, against the old legends Toney, Holyfield.

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

If you have to squeek out a gift decision(even the mainstream press are calling it that) against a Fres Oquendo who only got the fight on a weeks notice,its over. Pack it in.

Yep, agreed.

The thing is... since Toney did technically "win", we both know that he will fight again.

Well the bad thing is that Quendo got screwed, The good thing is that now we will probably get to see James Toney get crushed by one of the Klistchkos.

I didn't think it was a horrible robbery, could have gone either way IMO. Toney looks done though, his output is ass. As long as we have these legacy fighters at HW, the new guys are going to be left by the wayside.
Holyfield, Toney, Maskaev, Skelton, Ruiz and Austin should all step out of the way to let some new talent emerge. Time to retire kids.

I agree with everyone Toney should definitely hang em up. He's one of my all time favorite fighters and I just don't want him to see him get brutally knocked out.

Originally Posted by RozzySean

I've seen worse robberies, but Toney definately got a gift decision. Light's Out is one of my favorites, but it's time for the fat man to hang em up and concentrated on eating full time.

I feel bad for Fres. He deserved a break for putting in a good performance such short notice.

WHAT!?!? Fres stunk up the joint, he put Ruiz to shame with that hit and hold shit. I was watching on TV and thought the commentators were way off on their giving Fres the early rounds. His shots weren't landing. It was close but no way a robbery.

But yes, if toney is going to put in those half assed performances, he should def hang em up. He could have be more active for sure. Either Klitschko would probably stop him, he couldn't deal with Fres' jab so I don't think he can avoid Klitschkos.

Originally Posted by No Contest

Originally Posted by RozzySean

I've seen worse robberies, but Toney definately got a gift decision. Light's Out is one of my favorites, but it's time for the fat man to hang em up and concentrated on eating full time.

I feel bad for Fres. He deserved a break for putting in a good performance such short notice.

WHAT!?!? Fres stunk up the joint, he put Ruiz to shame with that hit and hold shit. I was watching on TV and thought the commentators were way off on their giving Fres the early rounds. His shots weren't landing. It was close but no way a robbery.

I'm not sure I remember Toney landing a single meaningful punch. At least Fres was landing jabs and a few right hands. Considering the short notice, I think Fres did OK. I'm not sure how Toney gets any of that last three or four rounds.

Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

Fres Oquendo has now been on the end of two bad decisions, against the old legends Toney, Holyfield.

Have yet to watch the entire fight with Toney,I must be one of the few that thinks Holyfield beat him close but square .Now his loss To Chris Byrd was foul I thought.Had Chris all confused in there.

I saw it on a choppy stream but he looks finished. I think if he's as bad next time out he'll retire. Toney is a great fighter who shouldn't be fighting anymore. I hope he doesn't need the money. What's his situation outside the ring? Has he got 15 kids or something?

Originally Posted by killersheep

Holyfield, Toney, Maskaev, Skelton, Ruiz and Austin should all step out of the way to let some new talent emerge. Time to retire kids.

Yeah, it makes for one bore fest after another. Especially with the likes of Holyfield and Toney; who are skillful and experienced enough to get the fight fought on their snail pace terms, and drag the fights out to their tedious full length.