Thread: ~ SSM vs. Margartio ~ Let's talk here!

Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

Correct me if i'm wrong here but what i noticed most in this fight was Margarito on returning to his corner at the end of round 1 looked shot!
Have a look at the end of Round one with the close up on Margarito, he definitely wanted to be somewhere else other than in the same ring as Suger Shane Mosley who bullied the bully the whole fight.

If this is true, then it gives weight to fists padding issue, brought against Tony.

Imagine, in one swift stroke, having to go to war without your trusty weapon, and in all of its suddenness?

Abruptly, you will go psychologically out of whack, in the briefest manner.

Couple that with the beatings absorbed in real time! Lights out after round 1, .... for that matter, common sense strongly suggests, lights out even before round one!

Originally Posted by THE THIRD MAN

Correct me if i'm wrong here but what i noticed most in this fight was Margarito on returning to his corner at the end of round 1 looked shot!
Have a look at the end of Round one with the close up on Margarito, he definitely wanted to be somewhere else other than in the same ring as Suger Shane Mosley who bullied the bully the whole fight.

If you look closely Shane landed a real hard body shot and after that margarito didnt throw shit after that until the round was over. If u get body work in on him early he has nothin no power no pressure nada.

I was SHOCKED seeing Shane just BLUEPRINT Margarito...he gave the HOW TO GUIDE of how to whip Toni's ass. I am now really looking forward to Cotto coming back and avenging his loss.....a beat down like Toni got can end careers.

After Cotto's victory I thought one of Margarito's weapons was HIS CHIN. Cotto's been known for having power in his punches but still, Margarito walked through them like a tank. Since Mosley didn't look as if he was going to knock out Cotto, I thought his punches would be no threat against Margarito, I was wrong.

Margarito looked slow but that didn't surprise me. Margarito is not known for his speed. He couldn't execute his plan. Mosley used his speed to prevent from getting connected and kept punching and retreating. Good plan.

Wow...just saw this fight...TOTAL ANNIHILATION!!

I remember reading this thread last night...I can't remember who gave the 4th to Margarito but it definitely wasn't Ray Charles because he could have told you Margarito didn't win a damn thing. Even the 7th that Lederman gave him was extremely generous!

Mosley's defence was just too good. toney missed many shots because of mosley's slipping and sliding. Toney came on in the 7th and 8th but got caught by a surprise left, followed by a quick right, that sent him reeling back into the ropes. It was all over after those 2 punches. Toney has to learn how to combat fighters with better defences. He sucked against Williams and got ko'd by mosley.

I was speaking to my friend today who is a huge Tony fan and told him how amazed I was at how far Tony had got in his career considering how limited he is.

I told him it looked like he was moving in slow motion against Mosely. His footwork sucked, defence sucked, handspeed sucked, no power...every attribute was that of a D grade fighter. Especially when compared to Shane.

The exact quote I used was that if God hadn't given Tony a stupidly durable chin, he would never have got as far as he has because nobody but Tony can fight that style and get away with it.

My favourite quote by Larry Merchant tonight was - ''Tony eats punches like M&M's''

His biggest asset is his chin and his stamina to keep up that relentless style. Problem is, those guys seem to get found out sooner or later by somebody who has a plan and can execute...Shane executed perfectly

jau saw the fight and got to say mosley destroyed maragirito.....he did a margarito on margirito....all credit to his mosley and to his trainer got to admit never heard of mosleys trainer but damn wat he did with hopkins and now mosley got to be a trainer heading towards emmanuel steward legenghood and as for shane frack he didnt just beat margarito he destroyed him from round one to round nine...perfect plan perfect execution perfect result

Originally Posted by Lyle

I was SHOCKED seeing Shane just BLUEPRINT Margarito...he gave the HOW TO GUIDE of how to whip Toni's ass. I am now really looking forward to Cotto coming back and avenging his loss.....a beat down like Toni got can end careers.

I have the same felling, especially if we consider Margarito’s age; but I hope we’re wrong. Welterweight division (the best IMO) already lost PBF and Paul Williams, Shane will not be around for too long I guess and Pacman is not really a ww. Tony’s fans or not we still need him and I hope also he’s innocent, if is not it will be a dark spot on this sport.

I'm not making excuses for Margarito's loss, but his camp claims that after Tony's win over Cotto, he had traveled to several countries and packed on some weight. Apparently he had trouble taking off the weight.

He weighed in under 147, but they said it was very tough on him and that they are going to consult a nutritionist and discuss the possibility of moving him up to 154.

they still want a rematch with Cotto, so maybe they'll go once more at 147. They claim he's too big to keep fighting at 147 for much longer.

Margarito didn't look even close to 100%. I think Mosely would have beat him at 100% too after seeing the performance, but he definitely looked out of it.