Thread: Lightweight Tournament!! Let's Talk

It's finalized! There is going to be a Card held in Texas on April 4th called "Lightweight Lightning." It is going to be an HBO Pay-Per-View event.

The fights include:

Edwin Valero-Antonio Pitalua (for the interim WBC lightweight title)
Michael Katsidis-Jesus Chavez
Jorge Barrios-Carlos Hernandez
Joel Casamayor-Julio Diaz

Once the winners are determined, they will be paired up again for semi-final fights, and so on until there is one fighter left.

Eventually, the plans are to get the winner of the Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz involved in the action at some point.

I read about this last night, Im excited that its in Texas ima try to go.

I guarantee at least two of these fights don't happen. If it does go off correctly that would be great.

Dan Rafael reported that if Edwin Valero wins, he is not obligated to continue the tournament and very well may opt for a different fight, since he is a Top Rank fighter.

otherwise, it is a neat PPV concept.

Why the hell would we pay to see a all these guys fight?

Casamayor - finito, well past his best
Katsidis - needs to get a Win b4 PPV
Jesus Chavez - knee injury will come up again for sure, he 37 and well past prime, too
Barrios - can't win against top level opposition past 6 years
Pitatua - well past prime. how he got that KO last fall I will never know.
Hernandez - same story, too old, too late
Diaz - can't nearly dish out the punishment he can take


So the average age of the fighters is... 33.25... that is rather high imo. I don't see everything working out for all these fighters to be on this card, but I may just have to give in. At least these guys don't quit!

Casamayor beats all them fools

I'm not a fan of this tournaments sponsored by Golden Boy Promotions... I see it as a one time event without any significant continuation...

Look at the World Cup tournament among nations sponsored by GBP, after the Philippines trashed Mexico by a score of 5-1 last August 2007, it's been forgotten... They should have held a World Cup event every year... There's lots of match-ups like Philippines vs. Puerto Rico or Philippines vs. Thailand or Mexico vs. Puerto Rico which is a huge event...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm not a fan of this tournaments sponsored by Golden Boy Promotions... I see it as a one time event without any significant continuation...

Look at the World Cup tournament among nations sponsored by GBP, after the Philippines trashed Mexico by a score of 5-1 last August 2007, it's been forgotten... They should have held a World Cup event every year... There's lots of match-ups like Philippines vs. Puerto Rico or Philippines vs. Thailand or Mexico vs. Puerto Rico which is a huge event...
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The World Cup thing would make sense if it was a team sport, but it's not.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm not a fan of this tournaments sponsored by Golden Boy Promotions... I see it as a one time event without any significant continuation...

Look at the World Cup tournament among nations sponsored by GBP, after the Philippines trashed Mexico by a score of 5-1 last August 2007, it's been forgotten... They should have held a World Cup event every year... There's lots of match-ups like Philippines vs. Puerto Rico or Philippines vs. Thailand or Mexico vs. Puerto Rico which is a huge event...
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The World Cup thing would make sense if it was a team sport, but it's not.

Not sure really what GBP's final objective with this World Cup thing... Of course GBP wants to make money from this tournaments...

Back to the lightweight tournament, I don't think GBP will have the enthusiasm to continue promoting it if Valero or Julio Diaz will come out on top...

Another thing, they said the winner of the tournament will have a crack on JMM-Juan Diaz winner, how about Campbell-Funeka? Are they left out from this whole thing? Also there are too many boxers involved and I think it takes at least a year to crown one winner...

I think this lightweight tournament is just a one time money making rip off by GBP...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm not a fan of this tournaments sponsored by Golden Boy Promotions... I see it as a one time event without any significant continuation...

Look at the World Cup tournament among nations sponsored by GBP, after the Philippines trashed Mexico by a score of 5-1 last August 2007, it's been forgotten... They should have held a World Cup event every year... There's lots of match-ups like Philippines vs. Puerto Rico or Philippines vs. Thailand or Mexico vs. Puerto Rico which is a huge event...
.

The World Cup thing would make sense if it was a team sport, but it's not.

Not sure really what GBP's final objective with this World Cup thing... Of course GBP wants to make money from this tournaments...

Back to the lightweight tournament, I don't think GBP will have the enthusiasm to continue promoting it if Valero or Julio Diaz will come out on top...

Another thing, they said the winner of the tournament will have a crack on JMM-Juan Diaz winner, how about Campbell-Funeka? Are they left out from this whole thing? Also there are too many boxers involved and I think it takes at least a year to crown one winner...

I think this lightweight tournament is just a one time money making rip off by GBP...
.

I'll still pay for this of course, but for once I actually agree with you, the tournament should be

JMM \_________
Diaz / \
\__________
/
Campbell \_________/
Funeka /


That being said it's worth it to me to see Katsidis, Barrios, Casa and Valero.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by killersheep

The World Cup thing would make sense if it was a team sport, but it's not.

Not sure really what GBP's final objective with this World Cup thing... Of course GBP wants to make money from this tournaments...

Back to the lightweight tournament, I don't think GBP will have the enthusiasm to continue promoting it if Valero or Julio Diaz will come out on top...

Another thing, they said the winner of the tournament will have a crack on JMM-Juan Diaz winner, how about Campbell-Funeka? Are they left out from this whole thing? Also there are too many boxers involved and I think it takes at least a year to crown one winner...

I think this lightweight tournament is just a one time money making rip off by GBP...
.

I'll still pay for this of course, but for once I actually agree with you, the tournament should be

JMM \_________
Diaz / \
\__________
/
Campbell \_________/
Funeka /


That being said it's worth it to me to see Katsidis, Barrios, Casa and Valero.

Well it's not really a bad card... I have some interest in Edwin Valero-Antonio Pitalua and Joel Casamayor-Julio Diaz fights but no interest at all on Michael Katsidis-Jesus Chavez and Jorge Barrios-Carlos Hernandez fights...

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Not sure really what GBP's final objective with this World Cup thing... Of course GBP wants to make money from this tournaments...

Back to the lightweight tournament, I don't think GBP will have the enthusiasm to continue promoting it if Valero or Julio Diaz will come out on top...

Another thing, they said the winner of the tournament will have a crack on JMM-Juan Diaz winner, how about Campbell-Funeka? Are they left out from this whole thing? Also there are too many boxers involved and I think it takes at least a year to crown one winner...

I think this lightweight tournament is just a one time money making rip off by GBP...
.

I'll still pay for this of course, but for once I actually agree with you, the tournament should be

JMM \_________
Diaz / \
\__________
/
Campbell \_________/
Funeka /


That being said it's worth it to me to see Katsidis, Barrios, Casa and Valero.

Well it's not really a bad card... I have some interest in Edwin Valero-Antonio Pitalua and Joel Casamayor-Julio Diaz fights but no interest at all on Michael Katsidis-Jesus Chavez and Jorge Barrios-Carlos Hernandez fights...

Katsidis and Chavez are both pressure fighters, it should be an exciting one, if Katsidis hit harder it would be a blowout, but because of his lack of power it should be competitive.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by killersheep

I'll still pay for this of course, but for once I actually agree with you, the tournament should be

JMM \_________
Diaz / \
\__________
/
Campbell \_________/
Funeka /


That being said it's worth it to me to see Katsidis, Barrios, Casa and Valero.

Well it's not really a bad card... I have some interest in Edwin Valero-Antonio Pitalua and Joel Casamayor-Julio Diaz fights but no interest at all on Michael Katsidis-Jesus Chavez and Jorge Barrios-Carlos Hernandez fights...

Katsidis and Chavez are both pressure fighters, it should be an exciting one, if Katsidis hit harder it would be a blowout, but because of his lack of power it should be competitive.

Don't rely on it so much... How disappointed are you in the Katsidis-Juan Diaz fight? It was predicted to be a total war between two always come forward pressure fighters but...

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Well it's not really a bad card... I have some interest in Edwin Valero-Antonio Pitalua and Joel Casamayor-Julio Diaz fights but no interest at all on Michael Katsidis-Jesus Chavez and Jorge Barrios-Carlos Hernandez fights...

Katsidis and Chavez are both pressure fighters, it should be an exciting one, if Katsidis hit harder it would be a blowout, but because of his lack of power it should be competitive.

Don't rely on it so much... How disappointed are you in the Katsidis-Juan Diaz fight? It was predicted to be a total war between two always come forward pressure fighters but...

Diaz had the plan, and executed it. I don't know that Chavez at this point would be able to step and fire like Diaz did. I'm trying to be optimistic buddy

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm not a fan of this tournaments sponsored by Golden Boy Promotions... I see it as a one time event without any significant continuation...

Look at the World Cup tournament among nations sponsored by GBP, after the Philippines trashed Mexico by a score of 5-1 last August 2007, it's been forgotten... They should have held a World Cup event every year... There's lots of match-ups like Philippines vs. Puerto Rico or Philippines vs. Thailand or Mexico vs. Puerto Rico which is a huge event...
.

The World Cup thing would make sense if it was a team sport, but it's not.

Not sure really what GBP's final objective with this World Cup thing... Of course GBP wants to make money from this tournaments...

Back to the lightweight tournament, I don't think GBP will have the enthusiasm to continue promoting it if Valero or Julio Diaz will come out on top...

Another thing, they said the winner of the tournament will have a crack on JMM-Juan Diaz winner, how about Campbell-Funeka? Are they left out from this whole thing? Also there are too many boxers involved and I think it takes at least a year to crown one winner...

I think this lightweight tournament is just a one time money making rip off by GBP...
.

You do got a point. Especially about a potential Campbell/Funeka absence. But a tournament does clear up who's really a contender and who's not