Thread: Why so much hate for Kahn (and Mundine)?

I'm confused by the hatred Kahn seems to engender. Just don't understand it. Maybe someone can help me with it.

As for Mundine, I know he is pretty mouthy and I know he said some things after 9/11, but surely there must be some other reasons for the hate he seems to stir up. What is it?

I am truly puzzled by this. I have always tried to separate a fighter's conduct outsside the ring from his conduct inside. It's not easy sometimes, but I try hard with this. I did with Prince Naseem as difficult as it was, becuase he could perform inside the ring and I did it with PBF which is also somewhat difficult.

I certainly don't hate Khan, it's just that he was in against Barrera. And I can only support one fighter there.

I don't hate Kahn at all. In fact, all the hatred for him kinda made me cheer for him.

Mundine on the other hand, is a loudmouth shit-talker who hasn't backed anything up, though I think he has the potential to be a great fighter. I've seen him claim to be the best fighter in the world etc. which, considering his level of opposition, is more than laughable.

Originally Posted by miles

I certainly don't hate Khan, it's just that he was in against Barrera. And I can only support one fighter there.

i thought you support the whole sport of boxing.. not just your fav fighter.. and you hate nuthuggers too right.. you dish Khan on other threads.. give credit where credit is due mate..

Hate is a very strong word and i don't hate anybody, Khan needs to prove himself and while fighting Barrera is admirable let's be realistic, Barrera is 5 years past his best! I would have much more respect if Khan took on someone like Katsidis!
As for Mundine, he is his own worst enemy, he keeps on talking the talk with little or no back up, fighting guys ranked below 50 or way past their best.
He has talent but time is not on his side, he is 34 this year and unless he gets a fight with Abraham or Pavlik 2009 will be another wasted year for Mundine.

Mundine needs to go swim in the deep end of the pool and go live and fight in the states. He has great skills and proves more people wrong than he does right, but it may be too late.Eccles, Green, and soliman are all good fighters too so he cant be as bad as some make out. He was beating Oktte before that nice crack to the temple took him out too.



Khan seems like a nice enough bloke latley; has he sh!t talked allot in the past?

Maybe some dumb people get him mixed up with Nassems lot and being with Warren think its going to be a replay of that stage show.

Im sure theres alot of rasict stuff involved with Kahn.
i couldnt belive the crap against Pakistanis that was being thrown all over the place in every stream and link during the fight.
Degrading stuff. People are people.

Originally Posted by antimoron

Originally Posted by miles

I certainly don't hate Khan, it's just that he was in against Barrera. And I can only support one fighter there.

i thought you support the whole sport of boxing.. not just your fav fighter.. and you hate nuthuggers too right.. you dish Khan on other threads.. give credit where credit is due mate..

I've already said he boxed well for those five rounds, and that's as much credit as I will give. What more do you want me to say? Khan was good, he got the job done.

Of course, I support boxing. At the end of the day, I just want to see good fights, it doesn't really matter if I know the fighters or not. But we have certain fighters we like too. I happen to like Barrera a lot, and can't help but feel the cut ruined the fight. It tarnished the night for me, as it meant we couldn't see Khan pushed against the best of what Barrera still has. You can disagree with that, but that's my take on the fight.

Originally Posted by Andre

Mundine needs to go swim in the deep end of the pool and go live and fight in the states. He has great skills and proves more people wrong than he does right, but it may be too late.Eccles, Green, and soliman are all good fighters too so he cant be as bad as some make out. He was beating Oktte before that nice crack to the temple took him out too.



Khan seems like a nice enough bloke latley; has he sh!t talked allot in the past?

Maybe some dumb people get him mixed up with Nassems lot and being with Warren think its going to be a replay of that stage show.

Im sure theres alot of rasict stuff involved with Kahn.
i couldnt belive the crap against Pakistanis that was being thrown all over the place in every stream and link during the fight.
Degrading stuff. People are people.

Yeah, that certainly put paid to all that 'the Khan hate isn't about race stuff'. I think that is part of the hate on Khan undeniably, & has actually made me grow to support him. I think he's a nice kid, yes his head gotta a bit big pre-Prescott, but what teenager's wouldn't. Seriously the lack of credit he's been given here is ridiculous, no one would be saying Barrera didn't win the fight if the roles were reversed.

Mundine on the other hand is a cock, and the stuff he has said, its no surprise that people dislike him. It's not even like he's Mayweather, who has one persona pre-fight & a completely different one post-fight. Mundine is just an all-round dickhead.

Originally Posted by Andre

Mundine needs to go swim in the deep end of the pool and go live and fight in the states. He has great skills and proves more people wrong than he does right, but it may be too late.Eccles, Green, and soliman are all good fighters too so he cant be as bad as some make out. He was beating Oktte before that nice crack to the temple took him out too.



Khan seems like a nice enough bloke latley; has he sh!t talked allot in the past?

Maybe some dumb people get him mixed up with Nassems lot and being with Warren think its going to be a replay of that stage show.

Im sure theres alot of rasict stuff involved with Kahn.
i couldnt belive the crap against Pakistanis that was being thrown all over the place in every stream and link during the fight.
Degrading stuff. People are people.

We have a winner. Sad but true.

HHhhmmm. If racism is a part of the anti-Kahn stuff (and I don't know that it is), thern I am now firmly in his corner. F--k rasicm--this is 2009 for God's sakes.

Ive always assumed it must be a racist thing too. Khan is a young (22 and no one give the guy an effing break?) and has loads of potential.

When there was so much happiness floating around after he got Ko'd by Prescott I thought it was a bit off.

Then reading other posts building up the the MAB fight talking about "hating" him and wanting to see him get knocked out again I couldnt understand the some peoples animosity towards him. I havent followed Khan much but everything I see about him; nice young fighter with good potential...doesnt give many reasons to hate and want to see him fail.

I started to think it must be a problem with Khan's detractors and not with Khan.

Either way, it has made me more of a Khan supporter than I otherwise would have.

Fighting close to his home town and having the crowd boo him like that? That is pathetic for the crowd, hope Amir continues to do well and sticks it them.

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Originally Posted by Andre

Mundine needs to go swim in the deep end of the pool and go live and fight in the states. He has great skills and proves more people wrong than he does right, but it may be too late.Eccles, Green, and soliman are all good fighters too so he cant be as bad as some make out. He was beating Oktte before that nice crack to the temple took him out too.



Khan seems like a nice enough bloke latley; has he sh!t talked allot in the past?

Maybe some dumb people get him mixed up with Nassems lot and being with Warren think its going to be a replay of that stage show.

Im sure theres alot of rasict stuff involved with Kahn.
i couldnt belive the crap against Pakistanis that was being thrown all over the place in every stream and link during the fight.
Degrading stuff. People are people.

Yeah, that certainly put paid to all that 'the Khan hate isn't about race stuff'. I think that is part of the hate on Khan undeniably, & has actually made me grow to support him.

I mentioned this before, but many went on the defensive...I don't know why people fail to realize one of the MAJOR reasons of the hatred towards Khan is SIMPLY because of his race and relgion.

Originally Posted by holmcall

I'm confused by the hatred Kahn seems to engender. Just don't understand it. Maybe someone can help me with it.

As for Mundine, I know he is pretty mouthy and I know he said some things after 9/11, but surely there must be some other reasons for the hate he seems to stir up. What is it?

I am truly puzzled by this. I have always tried to separate a fighter's conduct outsside the ring from his conduct inside. It's not easy sometimes, but I try hard with this. I did with Prince Naseem as difficult as it was, becuase he could perform inside the ring and I did it with PBF which is also somewhat difficult.

I don't like Kahn because he is a cocky little prick who has done little to garner the right to be so....KO'd the first time he fought a dangerous fighter and the rest of his opp with a recognizable name have either all been coming in off a loss or on the down end of their careers...yet we are supposed to jump up and down and sing his praises...I think not..

Do something worth praising then I will give him his due....

I wiash for an Amir Kahn Vs Juan Diaz bout to be signed.....

I can almost guarentee there will be no praising Kahn after that fight

Mundine fits the same boat.....Big shit talker who has lost every time he faced a fighter worth a nickle...Wins over Soliman and Taylor do not give the right to act like and ass....

No hate for khan

just slight resentment that he has had it all handed to him and even last night was made to look like something he clearly isnt.

Roach can turn khan into the next pacquiao but as soon as he gets hit on that chin by a world class puncher he is going down no more what!!!



Mundines just a very ordinary fighter that doesnt come out of oz because he knows he`ll get badly exposed.

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Originally Posted by holmcall

I'm confused by the hatred Kahn seems to engender. Just don't understand it. Maybe someone can help me with it.

As for Mundine, I know he is pretty mouthy and I know he said some things after 9/11, but surely there must be some other reasons for the hate he seems to stir up. What is it?

I am truly puzzled by this. I have always tried to separate a fighter's conduct outsside the ring from his conduct inside. It's not easy sometimes, but I try hard with this. I did with Prince Naseem as difficult as it was, becuase he could perform inside the ring and I did it with PBF which is also somewhat difficult.

I don't like Kahn because he is a cocky little prick who has done little to garner the right to be so....KO'd the first time he fought a dangerous fighter and the rest of his opp with a recognizable name have either all been coming in off a loss or on the down end of their careers...yet we are supposed to jump up and down and sing his praises...I think not..

Do something worth praising then I will give him his due....

I wiash for an Amir Kahn Vs Juan Diaz bout to be signed.....

I can almost guarentee there will be no praising Kahn after that fight

Mundine fits the same boat.....Big shit talker who has lost every time he faced a fighter worth a nickle...Wins over Soliman and Taylor do not give the right to act like and ass....

Diaz is all done. Kahn would ice him. Agree, however, with many of your thoughts about Mundine.