Thread: hopkins vs froch

Don't think its an advisable fight for Froch.Hes put himself on the map as far as Stateside goes,whatever the circumstances and trailing.He pulled it out from the fire,made a huge statement and earned a big match.But Hopkins would exploit his defensive lapses,willingness to walk forward,wide punches badly.Hopkins would fold him up.

Froch didnt respect Taylor and got shocked he was setting his feet and looking clumbsy trying to time Taylo with the big right ut i think he'll learn and not be so gung ho .

Hopkins has nothing left to prove i hope retires now

Froch would get embarrased and outclassed in every department by B-Hop.

Originally Posted by leftylee

Froch would get embarrased and outclassed in every department by B-Hop.

sure would

Bhop would beat froch in his sleep if you ask me!!

Froch would beat Hopkins at super middle.

Hopkins would take a clear UD.

no doubt in my mind.

If you want to kill any momentum of exposure the Super middleweight class will get then put Hopkins in there.


That fight was one of the greatest super middleweight matches i've ever seen and it put the division on notice to the world much in the way that Hamed vs Kelley did for the featherweight division. I think they should take the ball and run with it. Would be nice if Super Middleweight joined, 147 and 130 - 140 as one of the most watched divisions.

Originally Posted by Bilbo

I really think Froch would beat Hopkins, I'd have him a heavy favourite.

Not a prime Hopkins of course, but the B Hop of now. He's aging daily and his win over Pavlik had a lot to do with the fact that Pavlik did NOTHING in that fight.

Froch is far less worried about getting hit than Pavlik and would just wade in regardless. Unless Hopkins knocked him out he'd find it hard going in the late rounds and resort to holding, low blows and rough house tactics to stay in the fight.

You guys are seriously underating Froch and overatting Hopkins at this stage in his career. Yes he's a tough guy to beat still at 43 but he doesn't have the stamina and legs of old and could deteriorate quickly now.

It's no coincidence that his two biggest wins in his old years against Tarver and Pavlik cooincided with both of these fighters giving the worst performances of their careers.

If Hopkins and Pavlik fought again at 168 and Pavlik was healthy, I'd pick him over Bernard also.

Pavlik did nothing because Hopkins used a basic fundamental called lateral movement.

Pavlik may of looked like a monster in his previous fights before Bhop but it all comes down to the fact that they were straight in front of him, there to be hit.Taylor exposed Kelly a little bit when he used lateral movement in the second fight, The thing is Taylor isn't really the best boxer/counter puncher and has never had the best stamina, which is why Kelly was able to edge the fight out late on.

Froch has nothing that Hopkins hasn't seen before.

His defense is awful and his workrate and chin aren't what they are made out to be.

If you think Froch can win by wadeing in your are sadly mistaken, Hopkins doesn't need to discourage Froch with power ( even though personally i think it would) because i know his sneaky counter shots, great defense and rough inside tactics would do it. Power isn't the only thing that can discourage a fighter.

Originally Posted by Majesty

If you want to kill any momentum of exposure the Super middleweight class will get then put Hopkins in there.


That fight was one of the greatest super middleweight matches i've ever seen and it put the division on notice to the world much in the way that Hamed vs Kelley did for the featherweight division. I think they should take the ball and run with it. Would be nice if Super Middleweight joined, 147 and 130 - 140 as one of the most watched divisions.

yea i think Froch should either take on some of the other TOP super middles or rematch Taylor

i'd love to see Froch vs Andrade

Have already replied but sitting here watching Froch/Taylor right now for the first time.......Have congrats for Froch,good on him for coming over and pulling it out of the fire But seeing him here against a top viable contender in Taylor....

Surely he has family members close at hand to steer him away from this possible match up Hopkins....whatever the weight.... would absolutely and unequivocally thump Froch from pillar to post.You could float an aircraft carrier through the vast divide in skills......leave that one lonely man.

Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Originally Posted by Bilbo

I really think Froch would beat Hopkins, I'd have him a heavy favourite.

Not a prime Hopkins of course, but the B Hop of now. He's aging daily and his win over Pavlik had a lot to do with the fact that Pavlik did NOTHING in that fight.

Froch is far less worried about getting hit than Pavlik and would just wade in regardless. Unless Hopkins knocked him out he'd find it hard going in the late rounds and resort to holding, low blows and rough house tactics to stay in the fight.

You guys are seriously underating Froch and overatting Hopkins at this stage in his career. Yes he's a tough guy to beat still at 43 but he doesn't have the stamina and legs of old and could deteriorate quickly now.

It's no coincidence that his two biggest wins in his old years against Tarver and Pavlik cooincided with both of these fighters giving the worst performances of their careers.

If Hopkins and Pavlik fought again at 168 and Pavlik was healthy, I'd pick him over Bernard also.

Pavlik did nothing because Hopkins used a basic fundamental called lateral movement.

Pavlik may of looked like a monster in his previous fights before Bhop but it all comes down to the fact that they were straight in front of him, there to be hit.Taylor exposed Kelly a little bit when he used lateral movement in the second fight, The thing is Taylor isn't really the best boxer/counter puncher and has never had the best stamina, which is why Kelly was able to edge the fight out late on.

Froch has nothing that Hopkins hasn't seen before.

His defense is awful and his workrate and chin aren't what they are made out to be.

If you think Froch can win by wadeing in your are sadly mistaken, Hopkins doesn't need to discourage Froch with power ( even though personally i think it would) because i know his sneaky counter shots, great defense and rough inside tactics would do it. Power isn't the only thing that can discourage a fighter.

I'm not suggesting Froch would beat a prime Hopkins, or even a Hopkins of a year or two ago, but he's 44. At some point he's going to have a sudden decline, his training and lifestyle won't matter you can't beat the ageing process.

If a fight were to happen between the two realisitcally it would be in the summer at the earliest, maybe towards the end of the year and he would be practically 45.

Froch is young, strong, hungry and dangerous. All the skill in the world won't matter if your body gives up.

If they did fight and I had to put money on it, my money would be on Froch.

And not just Froch, I'd pick Bute and Kessler over him too, plus Dawson.

He's not going to be able to go on forever, its simply impossible and at nearly 45 his decline may come quickly.

It is actually being considered: This time, Bernard Hopkins wants Carl Froch, but don't count on it - ESPN

its amazing, for some reason Pavlik just let Hopkins win, I personally would find him a new trainer as that is a shit gameplan.

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Originally Posted by Bilbo

I really think Froch would beat Hopkins, I'd have him a heavy favourite.

Not a prime Hopkins of course, but the B Hop of now. He's aging daily and his win over Pavlik had a lot to do with the fact that Pavlik did NOTHING in that fight.

Froch is far less worried about getting hit than Pavlik and would just wade in regardless. Unless Hopkins knocked him out he'd find it hard going in the late rounds and resort to holding, low blows and rough house tactics to stay in the fight.

You guys are seriously underating Froch and overatting Hopkins at this stage in his career. Yes he's a tough guy to beat still at 43 but he doesn't have the stamina and legs of old and could deteriorate quickly now.

It's no coincidence that his two biggest wins in his old years against Tarver and Pavlik cooincided with both of these fighters giving the worst performances of their careers.

If Hopkins and Pavlik fought again at 168 and Pavlik was healthy, I'd pick him over Bernard also.

Pavlik did nothing because Hopkins used a basic fundamental called lateral movement.

Pavlik may of looked like a monster in his previous fights before Bhop but it all comes down to the fact that they were straight in front of him, there to be hit.Taylor exposed Kelly a little bit when he used lateral movement in the second fight, The thing is Taylor isn't really the best boxer/counter puncher and has never had the best stamina, which is why Kelly was able to edge the fight out late on.

Froch has nothing that Hopkins hasn't seen before.

His defense is awful and his workrate and chin aren't what they are made out to be.

If you think Froch can win by wadeing in your are sadly mistaken, Hopkins doesn't need to discourage Froch with power ( even though personally i think it would) because i know his sneaky counter shots, great defense and rough inside tactics would do it. Power isn't the only thing that can discourage a fighter.

I'm not suggesting Froch would beat a prime Hopkins, or even a Hopkins of a year or two ago, but he's 44. At some point he's going to have a sudden decline, his training and lifestyle won't matter you can't beat the ageing process.

If a fight were to happen between the two realisitcally it would be in the summer at the earliest, maybe towards the end of the year and he would be practically 45.

Froch is young, strong, hungry and dangerous. All the skill in the world won't matter if your body gives up.

If they did fight and I had to put money on it, my money would be on Froch.

And not just Froch, I'd pick Bute and Kessler over him too, plus Dawson.

He's not going to be able to go on forever, its simply impossible and at nearly 45 his decline may come quickly.

I agree with your point.

Age catches up with every fighter.

Hopkins is a smart guy though, If he fells a decline in his arsenal he will retire, Hopkins has been all about the legacy recently.

If the fight was signed for the summer i would still pick Hopkins because i fell Bhop wouldn't risk his legacy by fighting Froch not being at his current best. If the Hopkins that fought Pavlik showed up Froch would get exposed.