Thread: Pacquiao ready to accept Mosley's challenge

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Kel

Originally Posted by bzkfn

Honestly, if this fight happens, I'd be surprised if Mosley wins. I have alot of respect for him, but I don't think he'll deal with Manny's speed popping in and out with combinations at this late stage of his career. I'm sure most will disagree, but I think Manny would win.

Shane needs to watch the Oscar Pac fight again and ask himself "Do I really want to leave the sport in that fashion?"

He does. But what Mosley has in his favor is the fact he hasn't absent from the 147 division as long as Oscar was. And it's obvious Mosley can still pull the trigger

But Mosley hasn't been below 147 in ten years and while he may be able to pull the trigger at 147, I'd be surprised if he was the same fighter at 144/145.

Has Mosley ever fought anyone as fast as Pac?

Originally Posted by Kel

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by Kel

When did anything you consider mean shit? Your a funny lunatic.

This is a boxing forum... I'm just presenting my own personal opinion... It's up to you how you interpret it if you agree with it or not...

Why don't you rank the 4 (Shane, Floyd, JMM, Cotto) possible opponents for PAC from most dangerous to least dangerous? Do it Mr. Kel...
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It is your opinion and I don't agree with your opinion.

One of the names you mention already beat Pac twice and is facing PBF next.. unless your a complete retard can you understand why I don't need to say anymore?

The other three you mention are Welters but Pac won't fight them at their most effective weight. What is stopping Manny? De La Hoya was such a beast at 147 and he beat him up... yeas? Like tiger with angry teeth!! No?

So what's the problem?? If you want not to include JMM then we'll erase JMM from the list... So among the 3 boxers (Shane, Floyd and Cotto), I consider Shane @144 as the most dangerous opponent for PAC at this stage... Floyd @143 is next and Cotto @143 is the least dangerous... You got a problem with my list (opinion) then show me your list or voice out your opposing opinion... This is a democratic boxing discussion board... You're free to post your opinion as long as it is within the forum rules...
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Originally Posted by RozzySean

Originally Posted by OumaFan

No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.

No matter how Mosley looks, if Mosley wins, people will say he beat a midget.

You are correct sir.

Boxing is bizarre

I don't think there's any other sport where a win or a loss (big wins or big losses) can be analyzed and dissected and denigrated to such an extent as boxing. Was he shot, did he get old overnight, was he never any good. I guess its because fighters fight so rarely.

I mean look at Jeff Lacy. I know Calzaghe fans get annoyed when people (many of whom picked Lacy) downgrade Calzaghe's win by saying Lacy was never any good but how can you look at Calzaghe-Lacy, Calzaghe-Kessler and Calzaghe-Hopkins and not think Lacy was overrated all the time? Its not so much a hit at Joe.

That was all nonsense. I'm drinking for the first time in a few weeks and rambling.

Originally Posted by OumaFan

Originally Posted by RozzySean

Originally Posted by OumaFan

No matter how Mosley looks if Pacquaio wins some people will still shit on him cause of the catch weight. Fact.

I'm starting to sound like a persecuted Mayweather fan.

No matter how Mosley looks, if Mosley wins, people will say he beat a midget.

You are correct sir.

Boxing is bizarre

I don't think there's any other sport where a win or a loss (big wins or big losses) can be analyzed and dissected and denigrated to such an extent as boxing. Was he shot, did he get old overnight, was he never any good. I guess its because fighters fight so rarely.

I mean look at Jeff Lacy. I know Calzaghe fans get annoyed when people (many of whom picked Lacy) downgrade Calzaghe's win by saying Lacy was never any good but how can you look at Calzaghe-Lacy, Calzaghe-Kessler and Calzaghe-Hopkins and not think Lacy was overrated all the time? Its not so much a hit at Joe.

That was all nonsense. I'm drinking for the first time in a few weeks and rambling.

I think if Mosley beats Pac he should get a ton of credit. If it's at a catchweight, as it almost certainly will be, it will be Pac who will have people dismissing his victory should he prevail.

I was going to make a joke about moderation but I decided against it.

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by Kel

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

This is a boxing forum... I'm just presenting my own personal opinion... It's up to you how you interpret it if you agree with it or not...

Why don't you rank the 4 (Shane, Floyd, JMM, Cotto) possible opponents for PAC from most dangerous to least dangerous? Do it Mr. Kel...
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It is your opinion and I don't agree with your opinion.

One of the names you mention already beat Pac twice and is facing PBF next.. unless your a complete retard can you understand why I don't need to say anymore?

The other three you mention are Welters but Pac won't fight them at their most effective weight. What is stopping Manny? De La Hoya was such a beast at 147 and he beat him up... yeas? Like tiger with angry teeth!! No?

So what's the problem?? If you want not to include JMM then we'll erase JMM from the list... So among the 3 boxers (Shane, Floyd and Cotto), I consider Shane @144 as the most dangerous opponent for PAC at this stage... Floyd @143 is next and Cotto @143 is the least dangerous... You got a problem with my list (opinion) then show me your list or voice out your opposing opinion... This is a democratic boxing discussion board... You're free to post your opinion as long as it is within the forum rules...
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There's nothing democratic about this boxing forum. Saddo rules with an iron fist and the Moderators are little more than his henchmen and cronies. It's a cult of personality, not a democracy. Edit: That was sarcastic, though there's really nothing overly democratic about any forum I've been on, including this one.

As for your question, I would have PBF, Mosley, then Cotto in that order as the biggest threats to Pac at any weight.

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by Kel

It is your opinion and I don't agree with your opinion.

One of the names you mention already beat Pac twice and is facing PBF next.. unless your a complete retard can you understand why I don't need to say anymore?

The other three you mention are Welters but Pac won't fight them at their most effective weight. What is stopping Manny? De La Hoya was such a beast at 147 and he beat him up... yeas? Like tiger with angry teeth!! No?

So what's the problem?? If you want not to include JMM then we'll erase JMM from the list... So among the 3 boxers (Shane, Floyd and Cotto), I consider Shane @144 as the most dangerous opponent for PAC at this stage... Floyd @143 is next and Cotto @143 is the least dangerous... You got a problem with my list (opinion) then show me your list or voice out your opposing opinion... This is a democratic boxing discussion board... You're free to post your opinion as long as it is within the forum rules...
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There's nothing democratic about this boxing forum. Saddo rules with an iron fist and the Moderators are little more than his henchmen and cronies. It's a cult of personality, not a democracy. Edit: That was sarcastic, though there's really nothing overly democratic about any forum I've been on, including this one.

As for your question, I would have PBF, Mosley, then Cotto in that order as the biggest threats to Pac at any weight.

Thanks for your list... Would you care to specify at what weight PAC will face each boxer? I think the weight, catchweight is a crucial thing...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

So what's the problem?? If you want not to include JMM then we'll erase JMM from the list... So among the 3 boxers (Shane, Floyd and Cotto), I consider Shane @144 as the most dangerous opponent for PAC at this stage... Floyd @143 is next and Cotto @143 is the least dangerous... You got a problem with my list (opinion) then show me your list or voice out your opposing opinion... This is a democratic boxing discussion board... You're free to post your opinion as long as it is within the forum rules...
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There's nothing democratic about this boxing forum. Saddo rules with an iron fist and the Moderators are little more than his henchmen and cronies. It's a cult of personality, not a democracy. Edit: That was sarcastic, though there's really nothing overly democratic about any forum I've been on, including this one.

As for your question, I would have PBF, Mosley, then Cotto in that order as the biggest threats to Pac at any weight.

Thanks for your list... Would you care to specify at what weight PAC will face each boxer? I think the weight, catchweight is a crucial thing...
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With PBF, I don't think the weight matters provided it isn't below 140/142. For Cotto and to a slightly lesser extent Mosley, I think that anything south of 147 is a major problem. I'd have both fights pretty much as pick'ems at 147, though I think Pac would theoretically have an easier time with Cotto than with Mosley.

Originally Posted by CFH

But Mosley hasn't been below 147 in ten years and while he may be able to pull the trigger at 147, I'd be surprised if he was the same fighter at 144/145.

Has Mosley ever fought anyone as fast as Pac?

Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States
2007-11-10
Shane Mosley 146¼
vs
Miguel Angel Cotto 146¼

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by CFH

But Mosley hasn't been below 147 in ten years and while he may be able to pull the trigger at 147, I'd be surprised if he was the same fighter at 144/145.

Has Mosley ever fought anyone as fast as Pac?

Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States
2007-11-10
Shane Mosley 146¼
vs
Miguel Angel Cotto 146¼

That's well within the normal parameters of the weight class. It's basically weighing 147, the contracted weight for the fight. A fighter isn't going to weigh in exactly at whatever the contracted weight is all the time, to think they would is preposterous. There's a huge difference between that and 144/145.

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Pacquiao on Erroneous Press Release: "Not Too Fast Mr. Mosley"

MANILA—Boxing’s No. 1 pound-for-pound best fighter Manny Pacquiao was surprised and flattered over the enterprising reports which came out in the media that a fight with “Sugar” Shane Mosley has been forged Wednesday. Apparently, a press release from a group associated with Mosley, the Entertainers and Athletes Group (EAG), came up with the story that Pacquiao agreed to fight the current WBA welterweight champion Mosley on Oct. 17.

“It’s funny that I am the last man to know about this supposed fight. I know everyone wants to fight me and I have said I will fight anyone, including Mosley. But I have not heard from my promoter or have seen any contract or fight detail. So, there is no fight yet,” said Pacquiao.

“I am flattered that even the great “Sugar” Shane Mosley is now going after me by any means. I am not closing the door on any negotiations, though, and I trust my promotional and training team to make the best decision for me,” added Pacquiao, almost a month after knocking out consensus 140-pound champion Ricky Hatton of England in only two rounds..

“For sure, my next match will be on June 18 to 21 and it will be against some of the best darters in the world,” said Pacquiao, who is bankrolling the $100,000 “Pacmania II Darts Tournament” in Burbank, California. “We have tried to invite Ricky Hatton to play a friendly match of darts with me, complete with a prize fund, but I guess he is still on vacation, according to his handlers. I hope he can still make it, so we can do a big side event.”

Top darters from all over America and other countries have already signified their intention of joining the event, one of the biggest darts competitions in years. Pacquiao, an avid darter, will compete with the likes of Brad Wethington, Scott Kirchner, Rob Heckman, Chris White, Ray Carver, Scotty Burnett, Nico Depaynos and Gary Mawson, among others.

Pacquiao is set to arrive in Los Angeles next week along with his family for a much-needed vacation. He will also fly out to New York to receive the 2008 Fighter of the Year award from the prestigious Boxing Writers Association of America on June 12 and attend the Miguel Cotto-Joshua Clottey Madison Square Garden fight the day after.

Filipino Rodel Mayol, now managed by Pacquiao, will be in the undercard. He challenges WBO light flyweight champion Ivan Calderon.

“I am not blaming people for coming up with ideas to lure me to fight them. I have said it before and I will say it again, I will not run away from a great fight. Floyd Mayweather is even using reverse psychology, saying he will not agree to fight me for a 50-50 purse. Of course everyone wants to fight me,” said Pacquiao.

“We will make the announcement at a proper time and a proper place after all the fight details have been discussed,” said the 30-year-old Pacquiao, a six-division champion who has won titles in the 112-pound flyweight division all the way to victories in other weight classes and over Oscar Dela Hoya at 147 pounds last December.

Pacquiao is still considering and choosing among a star-studded cast of would-be opponents including Mosley, Mayweather, who is facing Juan Manuel Marquez in July, Cotto, and a host of others.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by CFH

But Mosley hasn't been below 147 in ten years and while he may be able to pull the trigger at 147, I'd be surprised if he was the same fighter at 144/145.

Has Mosley ever fought anyone as fast as Pac?

Madison Square Garden, New York, New York, United States
2007-11-10
Shane Mosley 146¼
vs
Miguel Angel Cotto 146¼

nobody at 147 has fought anyone as fast as pacquiao

But the question remains does manny have the power to take out these elite fighters in their primes. No way in a million years can pac match cotto/mayweather for power.

Pacquiao likes his opponents to walk on to shots and mosley is way too clever to ever get drawn into the sort of slugfest hatton tried and failed and is too fast and quick to get hit as often as dela hoya did.

Mosley in 12

Mosley need not worry about Mayweather, he just needs to keep doing what he does best and the big PPV will come. If Mosley gots the guts to go down to a catch weight and take a 60/40 split then surely Pacquiao would accept that, Manny would have a lot to gain. Although I like Mosley i'll have to say that he was wrong when he said his loss to Cotto could have gone either way, he lost it. I can see why Mosley is trying to speed up the process (because of his age) but he needs to make sure he doesn't go to extreme with this catch weight otherwise he's gonna end up in Pacquiao's viper pit. Another reason Mosley need not worry about Mayweather is because he may end up with a loss come July 18.