Thread: Haye v Arreola anybody?

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

No legit back injury heals in 3 weeks. And if he's really hurt, why not show the medical report to the Klitschko camp? Is there even one?

What specifally is the problem with his back?

He said he'd be ready to fight on July 25th. That's more than 3 weeks, right?

That's a great question. What exactly is wrong with his back? Is there really a back problem? Or is it a heart problem?

And now it's July 25th? LOL. I'm not surprised. According to him it was July 11th.

Wladimir Klitschko replaces injured David Haye with Ruslan Chagaev for June 20 fight - ESPN

Predictable. No doubt July 25th would of turned into August 8th if Wlad would of gave him his way.

Booth said: "It looks like there will be only a three-week delay from the original fight date with respect to David's readiness, which hopefully means that Wladimir will only postpone the fight, rather than cancel it."

"LOOKS LIKE a three week delay"

That report basically destroys your theory about Haye's heart being questioned.

From those quotes it's blatantly OBVIOUS Haye/Booth didn't produce the medical report because they were trying to hide just how bad the injury really was. They were still hoping to fight Wlad at that stage and were clearly trying to stall Team Klit from making the Chagaev fight.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

If it happens Haye beats Areolae easily. I don't think it will anytime soon as HBO are desperate to get Areolae in a world title fight before he gets beat.

Kind of reminds you of the UK. A nation so desperate for a good heavyweight there pushing a Cruiserweight with a weak jaw, poor stamina and no heart. Hoping. No praying he will be there savior.

I don't care where Haye comes from, (I'm not the one constantly fantasising over British fighters), I just want to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die and the heavyweight division is so piss poor that a chinny cruiser offers me the best chance of seeing one. But whereever haye comes from he beats Areolae easily. Areolae is just a domestic level heavy.

Says the guy who actually named himself after one.

And we want to see an exciting Heavyweight fight. Just remember it was the chinny Crusier you lust for that pulled out

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Fenster

What specifally is the problem with his back?

He said he'd be ready to fight on July 25th. That's more than 3 weeks, right?

That's a great question. What exactly is wrong with his back? Is there really a back problem? Or is it a heart problem?

And now it's July 25th? LOL. I'm not surprised. According to him it was July 11th.

Wladimir Klitschko replaces injured David Haye with Ruslan Chagaev for June 20 fight - ESPN

Predictable. No doubt July 25th would of turned into August 8th if Wlad would of gave him his way.

Booth said: "It looks like there will be only a three-week delay from the original fight date with respect to David's readiness, which hopefully means that Wladimir will only postpone the fight, rather than cancel it."

"LOOKS LIKE a three week delay"

That report basically destroys your theory about Haye's heart being questioned.

From those quotes it's blatantly OBVIOUS Haye/Booth didn't produce the medical report because they were trying to hide just how bad the injury really was. They were still hoping to fight Wlad at that stage and were clearly trying to stall Team Klit from making the Chagaev fight.

So it went from July 11th to July 25th, right?

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by Lyle

What are you talking about bigger faster stronger? Arreola is 6'4 and was 255 in his last fight, granted he wasn't in shape but he's pretty big and he has fast hands when he puts punches together.

so by that logic if arreola spent the next 2months in mcdonalds and bulked up to 375 he would absoloutely crush haye??

I dont particularly rate haye but i sure as hell dont think he`ll come up short against a guy who struggled agains travis walker!!

Funny thing is every single poster has Haye beating Arreola. Yet, Haye has only fought one top 50 heavyweight. Does the confidence really stem from the differences in physiques?

Struggled? He knocked Travis Walker out in 3 rounds!

I don't particularly think Cris should have much trouble against a guy who struggled against Monte Barret!

If the fight came off, it would be one of the most exciting heavyweight fights in a long time.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

If it happens Haye beats Areolae easily. I don't think it will anytime soon as HBO are desperate to get Areolae in a world title fight before he gets beat.

Kind of reminds you of the UK. A nation so desperate for a good heavyweight there pushing a Cruiserweight with a weak jaw, poor stamina and no heart. Hoping. No praying he will be there savior.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

That's a great question. What exactly is wrong with his back? Is there really a back problem? Or is it a heart problem?

And now it's July 25th? LOL. I'm not surprised. According to him it was July 11th.

Wladimir Klitschko replaces injured David Haye with Ruslan Chagaev for June 20 fight - ESPN

Predictable. No doubt July 25th would of turned into August 8th if Wlad would of gave him his way.

Booth said: "It looks like there will be only a three-week delay from the original fight date with respect to David's readiness, which hopefully means that Wladimir will only postpone the fight, rather than cancel it."

"LOOKS LIKE a three week delay"

That report basically destroys your theory about Haye's heart being questioned.

From those quotes it's blatantly OBVIOUS Haye/Booth didn't produce the medical report because they were trying to hide just how bad the injury really was. They were still hoping to fight Wlad at that stage and were clearly trying to stall Team Klit from making the Chagaev fight.

So it went from July 11th to July 25th, right?

The July 25th date has been revealed since they lost all hope of saving the fight.

OBVIOUSLY they first said three weeks from June 20th because they were trying to save the fight.

A three week delay and maybe Wlad would have gone for it. They knew Wlad would walk any later than that.. or they simply didn't realise how bad the injury was when the first reports came out.

Either way it makes perfect sense.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Fenster

Booth said: "It looks like there will be only a three-week delay from the original fight date with respect to David's readiness, which hopefully means that Wladimir will only postpone the fight, rather than cancel it."

"LOOKS LIKE a three week delay"

That report basically destroys your theory about Haye's heart being questioned.

From those quotes it's blatantly OBVIOUS Haye/Booth didn't produce the medical report because they were trying to hide just how bad the injury really was. They were still hoping to fight Wlad at that stage and were clearly trying to stall Team Klit from making the Chagaev fight.

So it went from July 11th to July 25th, right?

The July 25th date has been revealed since they lost all hope of saving the fight.

OBVIOUSLY they first said three weeks from June 20th because they were trying to save the fight.

A three week delay and maybe Wlad would have gone for it. They knew Wlad would walk any later than that.. or they simply didn't realise how bad the injury was when the first reports came out.

Either way it makes perfect sense.

It made perfect sense for Wlad to move on. With no medical report all they had was there word to go by it. What assurances did he have that July 25th doesn't turn into August 8th and so on?

If his back is that bad than show proof and cancel. Why try and supposely fight in 3 weeks? Is it to not lose the fight? If that's the case than fight now. What's the difference?

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Kind of reminds you of the UK. A nation so desperate for a good heavyweight there pushing a Cruiserweight with a weak jaw, poor stamina and no heart. Hoping. No praying he will be there savior.

I don't care where Haye comes from, (I'm not the one constantly fantasising over British fighters), I just want to see one more exciting heavyweight title fight again before I die and the heavyweight division is so piss poor that a chinny cruiser offers me the best chance of seeing one. But whereever haye comes from he beats Areolae easily. Areolae is just a domestic level heavy.

Says the guy who actually named himself after one.

And we want to see an exciting Heavyweight fight. Just remember it was the chinny Crusier you lust for that pulled out

You're the one with hundreds of posts in dozens of threads about Haye. But it's the same for you when we're discussing any British fighter, we can see how excited they get you.

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by Lyle

What are you talking about bigger faster stronger? Arreola is 6'4 and was 255 in his last fight, granted he wasn't in shape but he's pretty big and he has fast hands when he puts punches together.

so by that logic if arreola spent the next 2months in mcdonalds and bulked up to 375 he would absoloutely crush haye??

I dont particularly rate haye but i sure as hell dont think he`ll come up short against a guy who struggled agains travis walker!!

Funny thing is every single poster has Haye beating Arreola. Yet, Haye has only fought one top 50 heavyweight. Does the confidence really stem from the differences in physiques?

Struggled? He knocked Travis Walker out in 3 rounds!

I don't particularly think Cris should have much trouble against a guy who struggled against Monte Barret!

If the fight came off, it would be one of the most exciting heavyweight fights in a long time.

Travis Walker is a domestic level heavyweight who almost stopped Areolae in the first round. Either guy is going to struggle anywhere above NABF level. Neither guy has a chance against Haye.

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

So it went from July 11th to July 25th, right?

The July 25th date has been revealed since they lost all hope of saving the fight.

OBVIOUSLY they first said three weeks from June 20th because they were trying to save the fight.

A three week delay and maybe Wlad would have gone for it. They knew Wlad would walk any later than that.. or they simply didn't realise how bad the injury was when the first reports came out.

Either way it makes perfect sense.

It made perfect sense for Wlad to move on. With no medical report all they had was there word to go by it. What assurances did he have that July 25th doesn't turn into August 8th and so on?

If his back is that bad than show proof and cancel. Why try and supposely fight in 3 weeks? Is it to not lose the fight? If that's the case than fight now. What's the difference?

You've basically answered your own question in the first part. He can't fight now because he's injured. Yes it makes perfect sense for Wlad to move on. Haye's injury was WORSE than originally let on, so wouldn't have made the 11th anyway.

They were being optimistic about the injury healing within three weeks. They ONLY revealed it wouldn't once Wlad-Chagaev was a done deal. They knew the fight was gone so had no reason to try and hide the severness of the injury.

That proves Haye was doing his BEST to save the fight.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Fenster

The July 25th date has been revealed since they lost all hope of saving the fight.

OBVIOUSLY they first said three weeks from June 20th because they were trying to save the fight.

A three week delay and maybe Wlad would have gone for it. They knew Wlad would walk any later than that.. or they simply didn't realise how bad the injury was when the first reports came out.

Either way it makes perfect sense.

It made perfect sense for Wlad to move on. With no medical report all they had was there word to go by it. What assurances did he have that July 25th doesn't turn into August 8th and so on?

If his back is that bad than show proof and cancel. Why try and supposely fight in 3 weeks? Is it to not lose the fight? If that's the case than fight now. What's the difference?

You've basically answered your own question in the first part. He can't fight now because he's injured. Yes it makes perfect sense for Wlad to move on. Haye's injury was WORSE than originally let on, so wouldn't have made the 11th anyway.

They were being optimistic about the injury healing within three weeks. They ONLY revealed it wouldn't once Wlad-Chagaev was a done deal. They knew the fight was gone so had no reason to try and hide the severness of the injury.

That proves Haye was doing his BEST to save the fight.

You know what? I'll give you that. Let's say Haye was trying to be optimistic about healing in 3 weeks. But couldn't. Ok. Stuff happens. Injury happen. Understandable. Now help me understand something else. With that being said, how the hell can it even be said or considered that Wlad is ducking Haye by moving on? How is that? I'm not saying that came from you. But I know you seen them. Maybe as somebody from that side of the world you can explain that reasoning to me.

Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Travis Walker is a domestic level heavyweight who almost stopped Areolae in the first round. Either guy is going to struggle anywhere above NABF level. Neither guy has a chance against Haye.

Almost stopped him?!?! He only knocked him down once....but you know who Travis Walker could stop DAVID HAYE

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

It made perfect sense for Wlad to move on. With no medical report all they had was there word to go by it. What assurances did he have that July 25th doesn't turn into August 8th and so on?

If his back is that bad than show proof and cancel. Why try and supposely fight in 3 weeks? Is it to not lose the fight? If that's the case than fight now. What's the difference?

You've basically answered your own question in the first part. He can't fight now because he's injured. Yes it makes perfect sense for Wlad to move on. Haye's injury was WORSE than originally let on, so wouldn't have made the 11th anyway.

They were being optimistic about the injury healing within three weeks. They ONLY revealed it wouldn't once Wlad-Chagaev was a done deal. They knew the fight was gone so had no reason to try and hide the severness of the injury.

That proves Haye was doing his BEST to save the fight.

You know what? I'll give you that. Let's say Haye was trying to be optimistic about healing in 3 weeks. But couldn't. Ok. Stuff happens. Injury happen. Understandable. Now help me understand something else. With that being said, how the hell can it even be said or considered that Wlad is ducking Haye by moving on? How is that? I'm not saying that came from you. But I know you seen them. Maybe as somebody from that side of the world you can explain that reasoning to me.

I don't know why people are saying Wlad is ducking Haye.

It sounds like something that could be a good fun wind-up though if people are going to bite

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Originally Posted by Fenster

You've basically answered your own question in the first part. He can't fight now because he's injured. Yes it makes perfect sense for Wlad to move on. Haye's injury was WORSE than originally let on, so wouldn't have made the 11th anyway.

They were being optimistic about the injury healing within three weeks. They ONLY revealed it wouldn't once Wlad-Chagaev was a done deal. They knew the fight was gone so had no reason to try and hide the severness of the injury.

That proves Haye was doing his BEST to save the fight.

You know what? I'll give you that. Let's say Haye was trying to be optimistic about healing in 3 weeks. But couldn't. Ok. Stuff happens. Injury happen. Understandable. Now help me understand something else. With that being said, how the hell can it even be said or considered that Wlad is ducking Haye by moving on? How is that? I'm not saying that came from you. But I know you seen them. Maybe as somebody from that side of the world you can explain that reasoning to me.

I don't know why people are saying Wlad is ducking Haye.

It sounds like something that could be a good fun wind-up though if people are going to bite

No. The sad part is they actually mean it

Yeah they are HARDCORE drinking some David Haye Kool Aide...the more I think about it the more ridiculous it sounds "David Haye, beats Monte Barret and earns a title shot"....for a group of people who complain about Tony Thompson's title shot you guys should be ashamed of yourselves!!! Thompson at least beat a couple of guys...hell even Rahman beat more than just one bum to get a shot at the title.

And the bastards think David Haye can win too!!!! Jesus, I am glad this site wasn't around when Frank Bruno was moving up in the division