Thread: GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Gpd...layer_embeddedI got to say this is an insult to boxing fan's intelligence. GBP & HBO put up this infomercial, buying air time as if it was genuine news. They didn't even bother to ask tough questions.

There is no way this fight will break 600k and I doubt it will break 500k.

Yeah, that was pretty disgusting.

Floyd sold so well in his last two fights because of Hatton and DelaHoya. Mayweather against Marquez is not a megafight because these are two fighters whose paths were really not meant to cross. The public is not drooling at the mouth in expectation of this fight at all and I cannot see the PPV figures being anything special. There was no hype for a Mayweather/Marquez fight prior to the fight being made and this kind of drivel shows GBP trying anything they can to at least garner some level of respectability for it.

It's sad really. Over a million sales? Hilarious.

What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol

Originally Posted by miles

Yeah, that was pretty disgusting.

Floyd sold so well in his last two fights because of Hatton and DelaHoya. Mayweather against Marquez is not a megafight because these are two fighters whose paths were really not meant to cross. The public is not drooling at the mouth in expectation of this fight at all and I cannot see the PPV figures being anything special. There was no hype for a Mayweather/Marquez fight prior to the fight being made and this kind of drivel shows GBP trying anything they can to at least garner some level of respectability for it.

It's sad really. Over a million sales? Hilarious.

Spot on mate, the real interest was never in this fight. It's a made up 'megafight' as opposed to a real 'by public demand' fight.

I think this one might end up being a bit embarassing in the end in terms of numbers.

I believe they also said Mayweather-Hatton was projecting to do 1.5 million, and that ended up somewhere in the 850K range.

I think this fight does about 550-600K. Maybe a little more.

Originally Posted by Youngblood

What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol

The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.

Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by Youngblood

What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol

The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.

Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.

I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.

They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.

I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.

Of course what those guys say is an insult to hardcore boxing fans like us, but for the general public they are trying to sell the fight, so expect to see them hype up the fight.

500-600k ppv buys for this fight, somewhere around that range.

Originally Posted by Youngblood

Originally Posted by fan johnny

Originally Posted by Youngblood

What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol

The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.

Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.

I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.

They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.

Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.

As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.

I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.

Originally Posted by blegit

I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.

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Marquez is one of the best p4p fighters in the world and people still ride Mayweather as though he has taken the easy route?

Marquez is the biggest threat to Mayweathers 0 yet. He "beat" Pacquaio twice, somebody who people now think would do Floyd over but somehow Floyd has taken the easy route by taking on Pacquaio's achilles heel? That arguement doesn't make sense to me.

Miles, really?? Hatton made that fight sell 850k in the US? You think there are 850 thousand fat blokes in the US hanging around in english pubs playing darts who bought that fight? Come on mate..nobody gives a fuck about Hatton in the U.S.

Mayweather is a draw..nowhere near on the levels of De La Hoya or some other past fighters but he is a draw..even if only for the fact that people want to see him lose.

Saying that, this fight does nowhere near as much as 1 mill. I reckon 6-700k - Still a good figure

Originally Posted by Althugz

Originally Posted by blegit

I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.

^ Thank you!! ^

Marquez is one of the best p4p fighters in the world and people still ride Mayweather as though he has taken the easy route?

Marquez is the biggest threat to Mayweathers 0 yet. He "beat" Pacquaio twice, somebody who people now think would do Floyd over but somehow Floyd has taken the easy route by taking on Pacquaio's achilles heel? That arguement doesn't make sense to me.

Miles, really?? Hatton made that fight sell 850k in the US? You think there are 850 thousand fat blokes in the US hanging around in english pubs playing darts who bought that fight? Come on mate..nobody gives a fuck about Hatton in the U.S.

Mayweather is a draw..nowhere near on the levels of De La Hoya or some other past fighters but he is a draw..even if only for the fact that people want to see him lose.

Saying that, this fight does nowhere near as much as 1 mill. I reckon 6-700k - Still a good figure

ex-fuckin-zactly!

People act as if without Hatton or Oscar Mayweather would be curtain jerking espn events.

He's a legit and proven draw. His fights with Hatton/Oscar did more than Pacquiao's against the same guys. That says something. & yeah yeah, economy, weight issues, undefeated records, witchcraft blah blah. But a draw is a draw is a draw no matter how much reasoning there is behind it.

I dont see this fight as a farce, i see it as a good fight. Marquez has the skill to figure mayweather out because thats what he does. I think Marquez is less powerful version of Kostya Tszyu and timing is what you need to beat fast fighters like floyd and Marquez certainly has that.

well.. we'll just wait and see if they break 1M buys.. the fight is just around the corner..