Thread: Do u americans think that we british fans hype up ...

our boxers too much ? just curious as british boxers tend to get a lot of hate on this forum. i'm not trying to turn this into a britain vs usa thread as i think our countries should stick together. just wondering as Hatton, Froch, Haye, Calzaghe, Khan, eubank and benn get torn to shreds on here.

Originally Posted by Hughesd

our boxers too much ? just curious as british boxers tend to get a lot of hate on this forum. i'm not trying to turn this into a britain vs usa thread as i think our countries should stick together. just wondering as Hatton, Froch, Haye, Calzaghe, Khan, eubank and benn get torn to shreds on here.

I can't say I've ever seen Eubank & Benn get torn down on here, they seem to get pretty much universal respect. As for the question, of course Brits hype our boxers too much, we do it with any vaguely talented guy we've got in any sport that we want to be good at (ie one we 'invented'). The England football team since Euro 96 (although that team was fuckin good) is a perfect example of that.

It's largely due to our tabloid media being a bunch of vultures desperate for any vague chance to bang on about how we're still the best at something. Usually backfiring like England at the last World Cup, every Wimbledon & Hatton vs Mayweather/Pacquiao.

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Originally Posted by Hughesd

our boxers too much ? just curious as british boxers tend to get a lot of hate on this forum. i'm not trying to turn this into a britain vs usa thread as i think our countries should stick together. just wondering as Hatton, Froch, Haye, Calzaghe, Khan, eubank and benn get torn to shreds on here.

I can't say I've ever seen Eubank & Benn get torn down on here, they seem to get pretty much universal respect. As for the question, of course Brits hype our boxers too much, we do it with any vaguely talented guy we've got in any sport that we want to be good at (ie one we 'invented'). The England football team since Euro 96 (although that team was fuckin good) is a perfect example of that.

It's largely due to our tabloid media being a bunch of vultures desperate for any vague chance to bang on about how we're still the best at something. Usually backfiring like England at the last World Cup, every Wimbledon & Hatton vs Mayweather/Pacquiao.

we build them up so we can knock them down

Joe Calzaghe doesnt get a column in the tabloids why? because he was constantly succesful and never lost. Hatton on the other hand is still as popular as ever.

We`ll no doubt spend the next 12months telling the whole world how were going to south africa and bringing home the world cup just so once we inevitably fail we can all have a good moan about what went wrong!!

Not on my end I wish Americans had the same passion as you guys when it comes to our fighters.

all i gotta say is David Haye and Tyson Fury lol

I think its a matter of their just being fewer higher profile guys and crossover success,the hype is narrowed.The number of sports franchises and leauges play a huge factor.Not sure about across the pond but over here Boxing is runner up to nearly all major team sports.America is equally hype central but on a wider scale with a massive turn over rate.Boxing is hype,forums and the sport eat it up.They go hand in hand.Maybe a result of short attention spans and everyone clamoring for the next Sugar-something or p4p best.Yawn.Some do warrant the scrutiny though....Haye....so far as a heavyweight he's beaten a trail horse and backed out of a chance for the Heavyweight championship.I honestly dont think a Valuev win will convince many of his detractors.All the while his mouth has landed more hard shots than his fists.Time will tell.I think he'll be fun while it lasts.Hype and build up can definitely blend into smoke n mirrors.Agree with Jaz as far as Benn and Eubanks go,spoken highly of and some goof on this site actually named his cat after Nigel fifteen yrs ago...nutty f!!!k

I have a bigger problem with all of the hype surrounding Amateurs 'stars' from many nations coming into the pro game and being spoon fed massive amounts of air time and fitted for a title belt before thay even break a sweat against a live body.

I don't think that UK guys do it more than anyone else really. In my short time here there have really been only two guys that have had ridiculous overboard fanboyism: Pacquiao and Hatton. I think we all want the home team to do well and for the most part that's the limit of it, there are a few offenders from the UK, but no more so than the US or anywhere else, I think the only countrymen not guilty of it are the Canadians.

I'm always passionate and support our fighters, but I'm also honest about how good there are and their chances of winning.

I think when people start talking about Haye beating Vitali or that Hatton would beat Mayweather then they probably deserve a bit of grief

in Canada we aren't better when it comes to hype our athletes; For the second largest country in the world, we are more or less only 35 millions, if you consider that we compete against the UK, France, Germany or the US who have a much larger population pool.... result is that at top level, we still have less choice for the athletes, more or less. We had many deceptions that got catapulted by the medias, especially in french part of Canada where many french canadians would like to split up from the rest of Canada, when a french canadian athlete performs (or a kind of "adopted" athlete here), they will talk about him relentlessly in the medias.
One of our very good example was Stephane Ouellet. The guy had genuine and pure talent, apparently he even gave Roy Jones JR much trouble in sparring at some point. He did spare with Jones, did he really gave him THAT much trouble sparring? We can imagine that the truth is He was described as our next big thing. Well, he collapsed but like big time... and in a very shameful way.
Same thing with Leonard Dorin: the guy has tons of talent, got a draw where he should have won (in my opinion) against Paul Spadafora but the one of the good ol, days, he's been champion and they were thinking of making a showdown against mayweather because he had "much" chances to beat him. Next time you learn, he has a fight with Gatti, one power shot in the liver and the lights were out. the guy had talent, nobody denies it, but he was almost considered as the future big thing in boxing... And I must admit that at some point, I kind of was too in the bandwagon thinking he was "the" deal around his weight category.

Originally Posted by Hughesd

our boxers too much ? just curious as british boxers tend to get a lot of hate on this forum. i'm not trying to turn this into a britain vs usa thread as i think our countries should stick together. just wondering as Hatton, Froch, Haye, Calzaghe, Khan, eubank and benn get torn to shreds on here.

I think it seems like hype because there are less people to choose from.

In some cases YES in other cases not so much. David Haye has been hyped up beyond belief and none of the Brits ever even consider the FACT there have been very few (really just ONE) guys who moved from cruiserweight to heavyweight and been successful....but I bring that up and everyone says "Well Evander Holyfield did it!" and I tell you David Haye is no Evander Holyfield!

I agree that at times us Brits hype up our boxers a but thats not a bad thing is it?

At least the public in the UK still care about boxing.


p.s. anybody remember the hype around jeff lacy when he came to the UK to fight Calzaghe

Jeff Lacy is like our Ricky Hatton

lol... lyle, if the UK went overboard with Ricky Hatton then the US put on concrete shoes and wrapped chains around itself before diving into the atlantic over Jeff lacy...

Originally Posted by AdamGB

lol... lyle, if the UK went overboard with Ricky Hatton then the US put on concrete shoes and wrapped chains around itself before diving into the atlantic over Jeff lacy...

Of course I exagerated, but Jeff Lacy was an OK fighter, I think he could have done very well had he not gotten injured.....what's Ricky's excuse?