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I love not only the initial move which speaks for itself of course but watch his footwork on leaving its a skip away in switch stance so that his last move is his right leg goes back around his left leg to get him back into his natural stance.

This is not just an accident this man knows his stuff.

If he had just gone straight there(without the skip) he would still be in range. But instead: even with the risks involved in pulling this off, he has kept one last distancing mechanism just in case he gets chased out or followed out with a reaching cross.(his last leg move would naturally dissolve any power out of a following punch and it would put him in the position of having time to land over it after it fell short.

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"Aye and" Vic Darchinian as MR Crab.

That is a really smooth move. I saved that pic when I saw it before.

I think that a lot of it is a result of from his uncle roger's pad work. I posted some vids recently. Floyd has that lean back move down to a reflex, and if his opponent follows up with a left hook or right hand he's trained to either block or roll under it and out like he did here.

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He plays safe and wins in style.
Hows how exposed Juans ribs were and how fully loaded Floyds left side was when they became exposed ; but he is regimented and went for the space and the clean point ahead.

*sniffs* just beautiful

(being serious) I loved that move (those moves) when I saw that but seeing as a whole thread has been dedicated to it makes me want to really learn both seeing as both are useful.

Generally leaning back is the wrong idea but he does it so fast and efficiently that he can be back in position in less than a split second.

ps. Chris, are you the one that actually made the vids? If so, caps please

Somethings I find great to build upon, Like for practice sake if someone came at you over committed; lunging with a straight shot for instance and you did nothing but switched stance, even with your hands behind your back.So long as you didnt move forward, you would avoid the shot as it came at you and your feet would take your head from the inside of their arm around to the outside of their arm.

So if you did this while retreating, then you have created more space so you can control their arm on its extension and your loaded to follow it back home.

Anyway with that sort of stuff in mind;
Like Floyd here, He ducks; Juan goes past him, which puts Floyd in switch stance (without his feet even moving) then he shuffles out for saftey and redistancing, then he switches back to correct what naturally just occured:

All he did was turn his shoulders and hips to face the new point of where the contact is about to come from.

If you can realize and collect in your head, all those subtle but useful avoidances and use them to dissolve their power while reloading yours. Or even better setting them up so that they have to turn to where they think you are and you catch them turning, the fight world is your oyster.

Technicaly its terrible

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Yeah ,but it worked.
Technically a Morris oxford wasnt a Roller, but it worked and got from A to B anyway.

To go under when Juan fired back was safe to do so.



Im into the end of it,and where he found himself in relation to Juan.
Not even counting the lean back and the strike by Floyd that lead up to him doing
it.

I like the weird positioning and what more could be made from it.

Juans rib cage ends up so open too!



You know me I like looking at the unconventional.

Its a great move Andre not done very well.

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What round was it?

Other than fatigue I can't think of any excuse for Marquez just leaving his jab out there like that and pulling it back so low.

As Floyd was switching Marquez could have stepped in with a lead right from a southpaw stance.

It's a decent move, but I never get too impressed before watching the other guy and seeing how much he allowed it to happen.

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One had lost His Oral Stability the other Hadnt

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If F M had his feet where they should have been and been able to turn the shoulder, He would have KOd Marqiuz there and then. Bad technique Im afraid, thats why after the shot when He roles it takes two steps instead of one to get His balance to work again, useless .

Useless .






If he wasnt off balance, do you think he should have held his ground and stayed in close when he came up?

From where he comes up, it looks that with a short step with his left foot and a pivot I recon he could of gone for a double left hook; low and high.

Surprised this hasnt got others thinking more

No one bites on these ? Wrong bait maybe


Thinking what could or couldnt happen out of this, Its such a great set up for analysis of everything : distance, overcommitment under commitment ,balance, final landing positions and catching a turner blind sided.

Andre He lost balance because his back foot had no stability. If his feet had been centre he could have spun on his front foot and finished it, both lost Oral balance. He was to busy retifying His balance to capitalise

Yeah his leg was straight back like a counter weight,wasnt it.

I think he could of even short stepped and remained in closer and in control and caught Jmm turning to face him.
But he backed out, probably happy with just the point?

Like you say mate he could of finished the job right then and there.