Thread: Will Khan be able to handle Marquez?

I watched the fight this weekend and so far Khan has been impressive since he got KTFO. I wasnt sure how that would have effected his career, and to be honest I thought the worst of it. But well to done to Amir who has pushed himself to the limit mentally to come back from that defeat. I think the fact so many people paid for the Prescott fight and he got KTFO so fast would have been very hard for him to take and thats why i respect Khan because he has kept going and won a world title on the way.

I think his defence has improved a lot and with such speed and power I think he is going to be a force at 140. He did well against Salita although it was difficult to judge if he has improved a lot because it was over so fast. But he took the KO came and he finished well and that was impressive to see.

I have read that a possible fight for him is JMM, is it just me or is this too much of a step up for Khan? I think technically JMM is supreme and he would be able to give Khan all sorts of problems. I still think JMM has power as shown in his fight against Diaz and Casamayor. I know he got schooled by Mayweather, but Mayweather is Mayweather and Khan is Khan, a totally different class IMO. I think Khan needs a tough top 10 fighter, but JMM is one of the best fighters in the world and I think he would be too good for Khan at the momment. He has a lot of experience which Khan doesnt have at that level, JMM knows how to dig deep and have a war, but does Khan? I still think there is a question mark on that chin to be honest and JMM would be able to catch him if they fought.

Im not saying Khan shouldnt be chasing a fighter of JMM level and I do respect him for doing that. I personally think Khan needs a tough 12 rounder against a solid 140 pound fighter before chasing JMM. I also think Ricky Hatton by late 2010 would be a good fight for him to have. What do you think though??

Maybe in a year.

At 140 I think he has a good chance, styles make fights and I think with Khan's skills and a gemplan he follows I think he has everychance of beating Marquez, much better chance than Hatton has of beating Marquez.

I think a fight with JMM would be too soon if it were his next fight. He needs to get in with a top 10 contender that can bang. Maybe late 2010 Khan will be able to take him, but not in his next fight

Originally Posted by skel1983

At 140 I think he has a good chance, styles make fights and I think with Khan's skills and a gemplan he follows I think he has everychance of beating Marquez, much better chance than Hatton has of beating Marquez.

I agree with you on those points.

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

Originally Posted by KananKrus

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

couldnt agree more..

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

To be fair though mate at the time Khan was still at 135 and Marquez had just blasted out Diaz now Khan seems to be bigger and stronger at 140 and Marquez looked a bit soft and way above his natural weight at 145, I think at 135 Marquez wins.

But I suppose what has happened recently and the progress Khan has made with Roach makes it very possible Khan can use his physical advantages to win this fight.

I think it could well happen especially if Marquez fights Hatton which I think he wins it would make sense to make the fight.

I still think no. Possibly if he was able to stay on the outside like he did Kotelnik and hope Marquez was able to fight out on the outside but to me he is still raw and unpolished. He still has been caught and I'm just not sure he's disciplined enough to bang with someone like Marquez. I don't think just because he got 12-0'd by the best pure boxer on the planet that Marquez loses. He's still one of the games top counter punchers and I'm not sure Khan is ready for a surgeon like Marquez. Just youth and athleticism isn't going to get him by and I'm not sold on any of these huge changes of his.

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

To be fair though mate at the time Khan was still at 135 and Marquez had just blasted out Diaz now Khan seems to be bigger and stronger at 140 and Marquez looked a bit soft and way above his natural weight at 145, I think at 135 Marquez wins.

But I suppose what has happened recently and the progress Khan has made with Roach makes it very possible Khan can use his physical advantages to win this fight.

I think it could well happen especially if Marquez fights Hatton which I think he wins it would make sense to make the fight.

Exactly, which is why I should have more respect on these boards. Bilbo knows the truth. I told them all Mijares was overrated and about to be exposed, he was exposed. I'm saying the same about Nonito Donaire now, along with Lucian Bute.

Khan will be better than them all.

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Amazing turnaround. I posted in March of this year that Amir could be capable of taking on Juan Manuel Marquez in around a year or so's time and nobody agreed.

Now it seem momentum is swinging his way.

I don't think he needs Marquez just yet. He needs at least one solid, world level opponent first to give him that experience, and also the inner confidence needed.

My guess is that if he beats his March opponent on the Pacquaio Floyd undercard and looks good he may well get one summer fight in before a big showdown with Marquez this time next year.

He could well go into that fight the bookies favourite.

To be fair though mate at the time Khan was still at 135 and Marquez had just blasted out Diaz now Khan seems to be bigger and stronger at 140 and Marquez looked a bit soft and way above his natural weight at 145, I think at 135 Marquez wins.

But I suppose what has happened recently and the progress Khan has made with Roach makes it very possible Khan can use his physical advantages to win this fight.

I think it could well happen especially if Marquez fights Hatton which I think he wins it would make sense to make the fight.

Agreeing with ya skel1983,

Khan beats JMM for me at 140, but i also think Hatton beats JMM at 140, guess the question is does Khan beat Hatton at 140, personally as a Hatton fan it's not a fight i would want him to take, IMHO Khan beats Hatton.

Originally Posted by KananKrus

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

Are you kidding me ? an easy technical fight for Amir Khan ? JMM is far more technically skilled than Amir Khan, as for speed ? well didn't he deal well with a faster fighter in Manny Pacquiao ? who hits harder and is alot better than Amir Khan ? or what about Joel Casamayor ?

Bilbo talks about overrated fighters like Lucian Bute, well atleast he's beaten some good opposition, who the hell has Amir Khan beaten that leads anyone to believe Amir Khan is ready for someone like JMM ? even at 140.

Not that long ago Amir Khan was getting dropped, by domestic level fighters and was also brutally KO'ed, by a fighter with pretty much no skill. Amir Khan has beaten not one good/live opponent, he's also ever only fought one puncher whom destroyed him.

Now im not saying that Amir Khan hasn't got skill, but come on im a bit sick of seeing, well Amir Khan has dramatically improved since being Freddie Roach, that is total BS how the hell can anyone tell anything really ?

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

Now just imagine if that was someone like JMM catching him, or any of the other punchers at 140. Lets actually wait and see Amir Khan beat someone who can punch, or atleast someone who's known.

Im sorry Bilbo i've listened to your reasoning, but to me your just totally biased. As hitman said a few days ago you take anything Amir Khan says with a pinch of salt, yet a fighter you dislike for example David Haye, you never miss a chance to hate on him.

Whenever he says anything but yet you don't take that with a pinch of salt, in all honesty i think Amir Khan's up his own ass. His talented no one i don't think has ever denied that.

But im sorry he has come out with some total crap, and he hasn't even beaten one elite fighter yet. And again im not saying he's not capable of it, but lets actually wait and see if he can do it.

Rather than overrating him which you clearly are, despite saying you don't but you clearly do. Why not fight the winner of the Timothy Bradley fight, or fight a puncher like Marcos Rene Maidana to prove he can beat a puncher, why fight a fighter who's clearly undersized at 140.

Even though i think JMM beats Amir Khan. And is x2 the fighter he will ever be. Why don't he beat an elite/prime 140 fighter then people might not stop hating on him, and might start respecting him.

And one last thing you can't improve a weak chin, and i don't believe it has anything to do with the weight either. He's had a weak chin since the Amateur's.

Originally Posted by ICB

Originally Posted by KananKrus

I think Amir is too big for Juan, and simply put, this fight will be bad for JMM, simply because of the disparity in size.

Skill wise, it is an easy technical fight for Khan provided his chin does not get exposed. The combined factors of size with speed is too much of an advantage, that I am afraid, regardless of how great Juan Manuel's overall skill surely is, it is not within by its' means to overcome it.

However if anyone can expose 'em weak chin of Amir, surely, Juan's precision laser counters are more than up for that task. So JMM has a chance a much greater against Amir's, than to that which he had at fight night against "a PBF" in his last outing.

Lastly, the poise in Amir Khan's game as of late, distinctly upgraded since he came over to Roach's tutelage, will need futher reinforcement as bouts with future HOF require.


There will be fireworks for sure, a good fight overall.

Khan will possibly come away with a UD win, and only JMM's ring savvy prevents an abbreviated result for the young man from Bolton.

Are you kidding me ? an easy technical fight for Amir Khan ? JMM is far more technically skilled than Amir Khan, as for speed ? well didn't he deal well with a faster fighter in Manny Pacquiao ? who hits harder and is alot better than Amir Khan ? or what about Joel Casamayor ?

Bilbo talks about overrated fighters like Lucian Bute, well atleast he's beaten some good opposition, who the hell has Amir Khan beaten that leads anyone to believe Amir Khan is ready for someone like JMM ? even at 140.

Not that long ago Amir Khan was getting dropped, by domestic level fighters and was also brutally KO'ed, by a fighter with pretty much no skill. Amir Khan has beaten not one good/live opponent, he's also ever only fought one puncher whom destroyed him.

Now im not saying that Amir Khan hasn't got skill, but come on im a bit sick of seeing, well Amir Khan has dramatically improved since being Freddie Roach, that is total BS how the hell can anyone tell anything really ?

Because he beat Andriy Kotelnik, the most mediocre title holder in modern day history ? and even he went the distance winning 4 rounds, and clocking Amir Khan quite a few times late on, even with Amir Khan's supposedly improved "defense".

Now just imagine if that was someone like JMM catching him, or any of the other punchers at 140. Lets actually wait and see Amir Khan beat someone who can punch, or atleast someone who's known.

Im sorry Bilbo i've listened to your reasoning, but to me your just totally biased. As hitman said a few days ago you take anything Amir Khan says with a pinch of salt, yet a fighter you dislike for example David Haye, you never miss a chance to hate on him.

Whenever he says anything but yet you don't take that with a pinch of salt, in all honesty i think Amir Khan's up his own ass. His talented no one i don't think has ever denied that.

But im sorry he has come out with some total crap, and he hasn't even beaten one elite fighter yet. And again im not saying he's not capable of it, but lets actually wait and see if he can do it.

Rather than overrating him which you clearly are, despite saying you don't but you clearly do. Why not fight the winner of the Timothy Bradley fight, or fight a puncher like Marcos Rene Maidana to prove he can beat a puncher, why fight a fighter who's clearly undersized at 140.

Even though i think JMM beats Amir Khan. And is x2 the fighter he will ever be. Why don't he beat an elite/prime 140 fighter then people might not stop hating on him, and might start respecting him.

And one last thing you can't improve a weak chin, and i don't believe it has anything to do with the weight either. He's had a weak chin since the Amateur's.

Couldn't have agreed more. It doesn't really matter if Khan has improved ten fold he still has a very suspect chin and Marquez is not the guy you want to test it again with. Especially with Marquez's countering abilities.

Some people are seriously underating Marquez since his loss to Mayweather if they think Khan can beat him.

Marquez was outclassed by Mayweather who was naturally bigger, faster, stronger and........better.

Khan is nothing like Floyd expect in the speed department.

Khan has improved over his last four fights but has he improved enough to deal with someone of Marquez's skill level ? hell no imo.

Marquez has proved he can deal with fighters faster and naturally bigger than him (Pacquiao) so why would he have trouble with Khan who is a level or two below Pacquiao ?

Marquez stops Khan imo.