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    Default do you need power to ko a opponent?

    help me out.

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    Default Re: do you need power to ko a opponent?

    Power helps but it's not the end all be all when it comes to getting a KO. Speed is very helpful in getting a KO as well and timing too. Look at George Foreman, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson....all those guys could KO pretty much anyone Foreman was pure power; Ali, Pac, & Floyd have speed and timing; Mike Tyson hand great handspeed and power.

    I think it's easier to try and KO someone if you're open to all options. There's more than one way to skin a cat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Power helps but it's not the end all be all when it comes to getting a KO. Speed is very helpful in getting a KO as well and timing too. Look at George Foreman, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson....all those guys could KO pretty much anyone Foreman was pure power; Ali, Pac, & Floyd have speed and timing; Mike Tyson hand great handspeed and power.

    I think it's easier to try and KO someone if you're open to all options. There's more than one way to skin a cat.




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    Also the unseen punch will remove poeple off the scene alot faster than all the ones that are seen comming.
    So to counter and use their extended arm as the disguise is the way to fight.

    Or to be on their off side or blind side if they go off balance or lean out: you meet them comming back to center with a temple shot as their head returns to center.

    The double up bang bang jolts some out of their too the last one is behind the front one and is unseen.

    Power comes with weight tranference as well as naturaly and also through correct techniques, then timing. Put them all together .

    Its worth watching styles and figuring when it would be best to catch someone based on their style and reactions and work backwards from there so that on the night you are in the free space delivering the shot right as their head returns to you. Thats, if your planning something specific for someone. Loose free fighters are hard to catch cold but if you do, they walk into it blind.Thats why when some get over confidant you see them get sparked as they open up and go for broke.
    You can fein damage,suck someone in and make them go for broke too, it isnt out of the question and you catch them comming forwards like a train.
    The overhand bomb or bolo shot as it was once known probably has the most unsuspecting ko's on the end of it out of all the shots because that rises up over the opponents extended arm and its unseen as well as being a full arching shot to the side of the head.The hidden uppercut from the outside (one that follows an arm home after its spent) while they are turning back to see where you are would come close too.A hook around a hook, a straight jab on the button, right down the pipe with weight transference in it just as they begin to move can stop a fight too.

    Alot of knockouts are a complete surprise to both sides.

    If you can study those and bring them into play on a trigger move off your opponent ,thats pretty good homework.
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    Default Re: do you need power to ko a opponent?

    Not really. Speed over power buddy. A regular punch you don't see comin can also knock you out.

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    Default Re: do you need power to ko a opponent?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft View Post
    Not really. Speed over power buddy. A regular punch you don't see comin can also knock you out.



    yea thats true

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    Default Re: do you need power to ko a opponent?

    By no means am i any kind of expert, but what I have been reading says (quite categorically) that skill is more important than strength. As stated above, the momentum generated by you transferring your weight is enough to knock someone out. so in short - I believe NOT, you do not need power to knock someone out, only technique.

    Have a look around the free e-books - I am reading Jack Dempsy book at the mo and he explains it very well...
    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ee-ebooks.html
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    Default Re: do you need power to ko a opponent?

    feints make it alot easier to land unseen punches

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    Default Re: do you need power to ko a opponent?

    accuracy is pretty important too.

    I've bounced plenty of hard shots to the side of peoples heads without much effect, but i accidentally knocked a sparring partner out with a relatively weak shot that accidentally landed pinpoint on his chin. I was as surprised as he was.

    He was also coming foward at the time which andre also pointed out as important. Bruce lee also wrote that catching someone on the way in could almost double the impact like two cars crashing head on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bestjabwins View Post
    He was also coming foward at the time which andre also pointed out as important. Bruce lee also wrote that catching someone on the way in could almost double the impact like two cars crashing head on.
    That is also mentioned in JD's book, the whole two bodies colliding head on generates double the force.

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