Thread: CHARLEY BURLEY: Analyzing Genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81non05aKX4

My latest video.

That was absolutely exhilarating! I still have the goosebumps to show for it. Thanks for putting in the tremendous effort to make this available.

Nice stuff,well made.

Thanks guys! I recommend taking a look at this fight and paying attention to the principles I mentioned in my video, especially quartering the opponent as a target. The first three punches thrown by Jones are telling.

The prime light heavyweight version of Jones was the most enjoyable to watch for this stuff, because he settled down against his now naturally bigger opponents with less jumping around. But I love the opening to this super middleweight fight and hence the fight in its entirety.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZj7ehH1ZH8

More than his speed, reflexes, "chin" (a silly term in my book) or other uber-athletic attributes... I think it was his control of distance that deteriorated slowly after he moved back down from heavyweight and that led to his demise.

"I see a lot of Charley in this kid, Roy Jones Jr."
- Blackie Nelson, Burley's sparring partner

Roy had his way with this poor bloke,dont think he had fought for a year, it does emphasize what Roy was all about though.

Your right about its distance.

Its about how and when he bridges the gap too.

They are not a standard left hooks, they are leaping left hooks.

Devastating, full body weight and full forward movement behind them.

How Roy could read when to launch and when he could get away with it comes down to what you are saying.

Back in the day I used to like to watch Michael Spinks for the same reasons.
He was a small light heavy taking it up to the heavys.

I know Tyson went through him a like a bulldozer ,i was gutted when he did ,i thought Michael would have worked on frustrating him but he got caught cold.

Anyway, check him out here in the 15th round;Not his best round ever could of hunted down better but Its easier to see what he was all about in the later rounds, and how he usually thought in there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofpvj67MUDM

Maybe a bad on my part including Micheal here as I've just been watching him and Holmes in their last match up and its nots so good. Michael always looked to me like a survivalist in there with interesting moves. Also with that off centered stance he was hard to hit clean.

I find it interesting with Jones, how many punches He missed with bad Technique. We come back to the old Chestnut, Nature or Nuture. When Nature is lost, make sure you have plenty of Nutured Ability

Blackie Nelson also said that if Roy concentrated on jabbing more (like Charley) he could be an all-time great. Probably a bit late for Roy to take that advice.

Excellent video Dadi.

Wow, what a great and informing video.
Much appreciation for taking the time in analyzing the footage.

BTW, anyone no where I can find more of the advantages/disadvantages of this stance thoroughly explained.

And lastly, since the overhand right is comes up from and arc downwards would it create more of an impact than an an angled right hook?

Great information, I just learned a lot by watching the videos in this thread, and it clearly shows the advantages/disadvantages of modern vs old stance. With a mean jab, the old stance is in my eyes the better by far.

They say the old days, Trainers hadnt a clue, which is utter Bollocks. In those Days there were Millions Boxing and 8 Titles. The trouble being is when we look at old Film which half the time isnt the right speed, it doesnt look as good as it should. Even Hollywood had trouble getting it right . They did things then that have been forgotten, by most. Today they put a name to an exercise simply to sell it.You can have all the exercise, but you cant beat actually Fighting. The old Timers Did.

keep it up man

What would be the targets for a southpaw?
The ranges are much different; in a positive and negative way.

I notice that my right side is exposed much more by the left hand of an orthodox, naturally. But, the right hand is much farther away and can be seen and blocked much easier.

Any pointers would be much appreciated.