Thread: Pavlik vs Martinez Set For April

FIGHTHYPE \\ PAVLIK VS. MARTINEZ SET FOR APRIL

I hope this turns true. I will give Pavlik some credit for taking on a slick southpaw who is very capable of outboxing him.

That sounds like a tasty matchup, but I thought Martinez had said he is staying at 154 to keep his title?

I think Pavlik has enough to beat Martinez and possibly bust him up. Pavlik has become somewhat underrated. I really feel that the Hopkins fight was largely down to Pavlik being way over his optimum fighting weight and being unwell.

Will be a great test for Pavlik. I'm a Kelly fan first, but a recent Martinez fan also so this will be interesting to watch. A bit tough too, because I feel Martinez had flown under the radar and not gotten fair judging on a few occasions. I like the guy, so whoever walks away with the win I'll be happy for so long as it is the correct decision.

Shouldn't Pavlik be fighting Williams after all he did beat Martinez?

Originally Posted by Master

Shouldn't Pavlik be fighting Williams after all he did beat Martinez?

most felt Martinez won, so not a bad fight for Pavlik

It seems fighthype jumped the gun.

Vindy.com Local News Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana Ohio - news, sports and information - Pavlik-Martinez fight in April? Not so fast.

Don't believe the (Fight)Hype, Kelly Pavlik does not have a deal in place to fight Sergio Martinez in April.

At least not yet.

"We're discussing several fights," said Pavlik's co-manager, Cameron Dunkin, when asked about a report on the Web site FightHype that the fighters have agreed to terms for an April bout. "That's just one of them."

Added Top Rank spokesman, "That's the first I've heard of it."

Dunkin and Top Rank officials are planning to meet with HBO representatives next weekend in New York to discuss Pavlik's future, which could include an April fight. There are four finalists to fight Pavlik: Martinez, Anthony Mundine, WBA middleweight champion Felix Sturm and one other that hasn't been named yet.

Paul Williams, who was scheduled to fight Pavlik on Dec. 5, does not appear to be among the finalists. After agreeing to fight Pavlik for $1.2 million in December, Williams now wants to split the proceeds 50-50. Pavlik's handlers have refused. Williams earned a majority decision win over Martinez on Dec. 5.

"That's not happening," Dunkin said.

For more details, read Sunday's Vindicator or visit Vindy.com.

Originally Posted by TigerFan

It seems fighthype jumped the gun.

Vindy.com Local News Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana Ohio - news, sports and information - Pavlik-Martinez fight in April? Not so fast.

Don't believe the (Fight)Hype, Kelly Pavlik does not have a deal in place to fight Sergio Martinez in April.

At least not yet.

"We're discussing several fights," said Pavlik's co-manager, Cameron Dunkin, when asked about a report on the Web site FightHype that the fighters have agreed to terms for an April bout. "That's just one of them."

Added Top Rank spokesman, "That's the first I've heard of it."

Dunkin and Top Rank officials are planning to meet with HBO representatives next weekend in New York to discuss Pavlik's future, which could include an April fight. There are four finalists to fight Pavlik: Martinez, Anthony Mundine, WBA middleweight champion Felix Sturm and one other that hasn't been named yet.

Paul Williams, who was scheduled to fight Pavlik on Dec. 5, does not appear to be among the finalists. After agreeing to fight Pavlik for $1.2 million in December, Williams now wants to split the proceeds 50-50. Pavlik's handlers have refused. Williams earned a majority decision win over Martinez on Dec. 5.

"That's not happening," Dunkin said.

For more details, read Sunday's Vindicator or visit Vindy.com.

The last un-mentioned fight might be Bute as HBO and Interbox are clearly keen on it.... I will watch a bit more in the french canadians news because there was some rumors lately, one including PAvlik and another one Edison Miranda.

Nice, I actually think Martinez could win this one..He will be at a size disadvantage but he has great lateral movement which would give Pavlik fits

Wouldn't mind seeing this

This fight ain't gonna happen. Pavlik should be hitting the sauce right about now and soon he will punch his fist through yet another plate glass window and he will be penciling in opponents until the end of the year until Alfonso Gomez is ready to move up to 160

Originally Posted by ***********

This fight ain't gonna happen. Pavlik should be hitting the sauce right about now and soon he will punch his fist through yet another plate glass window and he will be penciling in opponents until the end of the year until Alfonso Gomez is ready to move up to 160

Pavlik wont win, you got a guy like Martinez who has electric handspeed and quick movement against a plodding 1-2 guy who has to set his feet to punch, when moving he pushes his punches awfully.. I can see a UD for Martinez, KP always has a punchers chance but like Chaos said he is singing Danny boy about now 3 sheets to the wind in some dive bar in youngstown

Originally Posted by Nameless

Originally Posted by TigerFan

It seems fighthype jumped the gun.

Vindy.com Local News Youngstown, Warren, Columbiana Ohio - news, sports and information - Pavlik-Martinez fight in April? Not so fast.

Don't believe the (Fight)Hype, Kelly Pavlik does not have a deal in place to fight Sergio Martinez in April.

At least not yet.

"We're discussing several fights," said Pavlik's co-manager, Cameron Dunkin, when asked about a report on the Web site FightHype that the fighters have agreed to terms for an April bout. "That's just one of them."

Added Top Rank spokesman, "That's the first I've heard of it."

Dunkin and Top Rank officials are planning to meet with HBO representatives next weekend in New York to discuss Pavlik's future, which could include an April fight. There are four finalists to fight Pavlik: Martinez, Anthony Mundine, WBA middleweight champion Felix Sturm and one other that hasn't been named yet.

Paul Williams, who was scheduled to fight Pavlik on Dec. 5, does not appear to be among the finalists. After agreeing to fight Pavlik for $1.2 million in December, Williams now wants to split the proceeds 50-50. Pavlik's handlers have refused. Williams earned a majority decision win over Martinez on Dec. 5.

"That's not happening," Dunkin said.

For more details, read Sunday's Vindicator or visit Vindy.com.

The last un-mentioned fight might be Bute as HBO and Interbox are clearly keen on it.... I will watch a bit more in the french canadians news because there was some rumors lately, one including PAvlik and another one Edison Miranda.

I know it ain't guna happen and I kno this won't be a popular post on here but I hope Mundine get's his shot. I know how most feel about him but I'd love to see him get his shot at a world class oponnent so we can really gage where his is at not only at middleweight but also on the world stage.

Taken into account the size difference I still think Martinez has all the tools to beat Pavlik in Hopkins fashion if he stays on point.Much rather see Pavlik Williams though.Pavlike better hurry and grab a biggie,blueprints out on him big time.

Very interesting fight.

I think Martinez was robbed against Paul Williams; GREAT fight, crap decision.

Williams kept coming ahead, but it was ineffective aggression and he made no adjustments. The clean effective shots were by Da Sex.
Williams still took a few rds, but it was clearly Martinez' fight.
I didn't think it was close. Williams was definitely in the fight, but he wasn't winning many rds.


I like Pavlik too, but I think Martinez is gonna be too slick for him with the counter-punching, the speed, the ability to make adjustments, and that he's not...welll....I hate to say it, but Pavlik knows only one way to fight whereas Martinez can change gears. Not 1-dimensional.
Martinex by decision...unless he gets ripped off again on the cards.



I think Martinez is a much harder fight for Pavlik than Paul Williams would have been. Williams is much more hittable plus he's a volume puncher.
Pavlik has a great chin, Williams ain't putting him down, and I think Pavlik would have Williams eyes swelling badly by rd 4.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Taken into account the size difference I still think Martinez has all the tools to beat Pavlik in Hopkins fashion if he stays on point.Much rather see Pavlik Williams though.Pavlike better hurry and grab a biggie,blueprints out on him big time.

Originally Posted by Althugz

Nice, I actually think Martinez could win this one..He will be at a size disadvantage but he has great lateral movement which would give Pavlik fits

Wouldn't mind seeing this

Originally Posted by ***********

This fight ain't gonna happen. Pavlik should be hitting the sauce right about now and soon he will punch his fist through yet another plate glass window and he will be penciling in opponents until the end of the year until Alfonso Gomez is ready to move up to 160

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Originally Posted by ***********

This fight ain't gonna happen. Pavlik should be hitting the sauce right about now and soon he will punch his fist through yet another plate glass window and he will be penciling in opponents until the end of the year until Alfonso Gomez is ready to move up to 160

Pavlik wont win, you got a guy like Martinez who has electric handspeed and quick movement against a plodding 1-2 guy who has to set his feet to punch, when moving he pushes his punches awfully.. I can see a UD for Martinez, KP always has a punchers chance but like Chaos said he is singing Danny boy about now 3 sheets to the wind in some dive bar in youngstown

Seriously, Pavlik receives more hate than probably any other top fighter aside from Mayweather and Pacquiao, which is a little odd because he seems to be a sincerely friendly guy. We all drink and do things that are regrettable especially in dive bars . Maybe after Pavlik fights another legit opponent and wins, he'll move back into people's good graces?

Martinez does seem to be a bad style matchup for Pavlik. Pavlik has beat faster fighters before because of his strength and relentlessness, but Martinez moves well and more than anyone else Pavlik has fought, Martinez has the ability to adjust in fights. Also, in the Williams fight Martinez showed that he counters very well.

I think Martinez may be a tougher style matchup for Pavlik than Williams. Williams doesn't move like Martinez and isn't as fast. Martinez won't be there to hit like Williams.

Althugz, I'm not so sure Martinez will be a size disadvantage. His best weight may be 154, but he fought well at 160 against Williams who is around the same size (and longer) than Pavlik without the time usually necessary to prepare for moving up in weight although I think Martinez would have won if the fight had been at 154. What I'm trying to say say is that Martinez seems to be best at 154, but he is very close to his best at 160.

Either way, Martinez is one of the best at around that weight. No doubt about it. Who else is there? Sturm and Williams really.