Thread: That round 2...

I have watched that second round several times now and it is fun to watch. Floyd really buckled with that second large shot. If only Mosley was able to sustain it. He looked subdued but effective in round one and in the second it was as if we had a real fight on our hands. Of course Floyd made his adjustments to stop it happening again, but Mosley wasn't the same after that point. Either he was spent trying to find the stoppage or it was in his head that only a big punch would suffice from then on out, probably both those things. But from that point on the fight had returned to Floyd and he was the man in control again.

Mosley refused to work any of the basics. Where was the jab that we were promised? I seldom saw it. It was almost as if the round that sprang the fight into life had sucked away all of Mosley's will to force the win. Mosley didn't throw much but when he did it was strange pitty patter punches. I thought the corner advice was excellent, but Mosley didn't convert those words into actual practice. It was an odd showing.

Originally Posted by miles

I have watched that second round several times now and it is fun to watch. Floyd really buckled with that second large shot. If only Mosley was able to sustain it. He looked subdued but effective in round one and in the second it was as if we had a real fight on our hands. Of course Floyd made his adjustments to stop it happening again, but Mosley wasn't the same after that point. Either he was spent trying to find the stoppage or it was in his head that only a big punch would suffice from then on out, probably both those things. But from that point on the fight had returned to Floyd and he was the man in control again.

Mosley refused to work any of the basics. Where was the jab that we were promised? I seldom saw it. It was almost as if the round that sprang the fight into life had sucked away all of Mosley's will to force the win. Mosley didn't throw much but when he did it was strange pitty patter punches. I thought the corner advice was excellent, but Mosley didn't convert those words into actual practice. It was an odd showing.

have you ever gone out running one day when you're feeling fine and its a nice sunny day and you ate your wheaties. Your mind is totally up for the task but all of a sudden you hit a wall, now you know you can go faster because you've done it before but for some reason the body just isn't responding. That's what happened to Shane. Had nothing to do with floyd because he didn't do anything to cause it he just exploited it. This "it" whatever it was just zapped shane of everything after the 2 round he looked gassed and spent the rest of the fight searching for his energy.

When watching the fight I was thinking that maybe he had slowed in the third because he knew it would be twelve hard rounds and was pacing himself, but he just never raised it to that level of intensity again. Another frustrating fight to watch because you just know a Mosley at his best would have pressed Floyd harder than anyone else.

Originally Posted by miles

When watching the fight I was thinking that maybe he had slowed in the third because he knew it would be twelve hard rounds and was pacing himself, but he just never raised it to that level of intensity again. Another frustrating fight to watch because you just know a Mosley at his best would have pressed Floyd harder than anyone else.

Floyd had won the mental game by not going down and by pressing Mosley even when hurt.

Mosley never had anyone he hurt with a shot start forcing action against him that was faster. Also Floyd started consistently throwing a jab in Mosley's face.

Mosley did what judah did, saw he had Mayweather and then shot his load just like Floyd wanted him to, once he endured it and started pressing Mosley NOT giving him the time off which im sure Mosley expected. Mosley expected if he hurt Floyd and shot his load that Floyd would run and give him time to regain himself so he could come on late. Floyd instead pressed him and pressured him so Mosley could never get that break he thought he would and from that point on Floyd broke him down.

It's kind of like racing against someone and feeling your sides hurt but you see them fall down so you press harder to run to get further ahead and then you slow down figuring they are so far behind they won't catch you, but then you see them running up behind you twice as fast. Tortoise and the Hare.

A Mosley in his prime wasn't as smart as the Mosley of today. He was more wreckless and relied more on talents and didn't have the same patience he has now. Shane fought this fight good rather then trying the double jab buggy thing he is known for, he tried timing Floyd, a younger Mosley would have tried to double jab right hand Mayweather and been countered more imo.

Originally Posted by Majesty

Originally Posted by miles

When watching the fight I was thinking that maybe he had slowed in the third because he knew it would be twelve hard rounds and was pacing himself, but he just never raised it to that level of intensity again. Another frustrating fight to watch because you just know a Mosley at his best would have pressed Floyd harder than anyone else.

Floyd had won the mental game by not going down and by pressing Mosley even when hurt.

Mosley never had anyone he hurt with a shot start forcing action against him that was faster. Also Floyd started consistently throwing a jab in Mosley's face.

Mosley did what judah did, saw he had Mayweather and then shot his load just like Floyd wanted him to, once he endured it and started pressing Mosley NOT giving him the time off which im sure Mosley expected. Mosley expected if he hurt Floyd and shot his load that Floyd would run and give him time to regain himself so he could come on late. Floyd instead pressed him and pressured him so Mosley could never get that break he thought he would and from that point on Floyd broke him down.

It's kind of like racing against someone and feeling your sides hurt but you see them fall down so you press harder to run to get further ahead and then you slow down figuring they are so far behind they won't catch you, but then you see them running up behind you twice as fast. Tortoise and the Hare.

A Mosley in his prime wasn't as smart as the Mosley of today. He was more wreckless and relied more on talents and didn't have the same patience he has now. Shane fought this fight good rather then trying the double jab buggy thing he is known for, he tried timing Floyd, a younger Mosley would have tried to double jab right hand Mayweather and been countered more imo.

yeah totally, a younger mosley would have been slower, less explosive, less stamina meaning he could have lasted maybe four rounds before gassing out, less power, not as strong...everything. Boy was he lucky he ducked floyd for so long because it would have really gotten ugly had he had his physical tools that made him shane for so long...

Yeah that 2nd round certainly had our whole boxing party on their feet lol!

Yeah, we thought Shane looked tired towards from about the middle to the end but conditioning has never been Shane's problem. He's fought at a much higher pace than round 2 for most rounds of most of his career.

I really think as Majesty said, he was shocked by the pace Floyd set - Kept the middle of the ring and had Mosley backing up for most of the fight. (When do you EVER see that happen?)

I do hope this isn't turning into another excuse for Floyd's performance. He just beat the best welterweight today with his eyes closed. I thought it was a little ugly and Floyd seems to be going a little bit more in the direction of Bernard Hopkins at points in his fights. Elbow, pushing opponents head down, leading with the head etc but he's much more fun to watch than B-Hop and his skills are unbelievable.

I think when we criticise fighters for their gameplan against fight Floyd, we can't imagine what it is like being in the ring with him. I was saying that to my friends. It is a catch 22.

Sure, you've hurt Floyd in round 2 so keep putting the pressure on him from then on, right? Oh, but then he counters you with a hurtful counter right so now you're scared to throw in case you leave yourself open. BUT you know you have to throw something otherwise Floyd is gonna out hustle you.

Everyone finds it so easy to say - "Well if Oscar used his jab he woulda won!" or "If Ricky kept his cool he woulda won!" or "if Shane kept throwing like in round 2 he woulda won".

Most of the time, Floyd is the reason those things aren't happening. I don't think he gets enough credit for that.

In a way, he does himself no favours by thoroughly outclassing opposition the way he does. I actually think people would respect him more if he won close 115-113's once in a while because he makes every world-class opponent he faces look like garbage with these wide scores.

Originally Posted by Althugz

Yeah that 2nd round certainly had our whole boxing party on their feet lol!

Yeah, we thought Shane looked tired towards from about the middle to the end but conditioning has never been Shane's problem. He's fought at a much higher pace than round 2 for most rounds of most of his career.

I really think as Majesty said, he was shocked by the pace Floyd set - Kept the middle of the ring and had Mosley backing up for most of the fight. (When do you EVER see that happen?)

I do hope this isn't turning into another excuse for Floyd's performance. He just beat the best welterweight today with his eyes closed. I thought it was a little ugly and Floyd seems to be going a little bit more in the direction of Bernard Hopkins at points in his fights. Elbow, pushing opponents head down, leading with the head etc but he's much more fun to watch than B-Hop and his skills are unbelievable.

I think when we criticise fighters for their gameplan against fight Floyd, we can't imagine what it is like being in the ring with him. I was saying that to my friends. It is a catch 22.

Sure, you've hurt Floyd in round 2 so keep putting the pressure on him from then on, right? Oh, but then he counters you with a hurtful counter right so now you're scared to throw in case you leave yourself open. BUT you know you have to throw something otherwise Floyd is gonna out hustle you.

Everyone finds it so easy to say - "Well if Oscar used his jab he woulda won!" or "If Ricky kept his cool he woulda won!" or "if Shane kept throwing like in round 2 he woulda won".

Most of the time, Floyd is the reason those things aren't happening. I don't think he gets enough credit for that.

In a way, he does himself no favours by thoroughly outclassing opposition the way he does. I actually think people would respect him more if he won close 115-113's once in a while because he makes every world-class opponent he faces look like garbage with these wide scores.

Good post. Although I don't think he would get peoples respect if he did have a close fight with a 115-113. He had a close one with Oscar at 154lbs, was clearly oversized, came from behind and still didn't get respect. This is why he acts like such a dick most of the time. A lot of boxing fans will only realise how great Floyd is when he's gone.

Originally Posted by Althugz

Yeah that 2nd round certainly had our whole boxing party on their feet lol!

Yeah, we thought Shane looked tired towards from about the middle to the end but conditioning has never been Shane's problem. He's fought at a much higher pace than round 2 for most rounds of most of his career.

I really think as Majesty said, he was shocked by the pace Floyd set - Kept the middle of the ring and had Mosley backing up for most of the fight. (When do you EVER see that happen?)

I do hope this isn't turning into another excuse for Floyd's performance. He just beat the best welterweight today with his eyes closed. I thought it was a little ugly and Floyd seems to be going a little bit more in the direction of Bernard Hopkins at points in his fights. Elbow, pushing opponents head down, leading with the head etc but he's much more fun to watch than B-Hop and his skills are unbelievable.

I think when we criticise fighters for their gameplan against fight Floyd, we can't imagine what it is like being in the ring with him. I was saying that to my friends. It is a catch 22.

Sure, you've hurt Floyd in round 2 so keep putting the pressure on him from then on, right? Oh, but then he counters you with a hurtful counter right so now you're scared to throw in case you leave yourself open. BUT you know you have to throw something otherwise Floyd is gonna out hustle you.

Everyone finds it so easy to say - "Well if Oscar used his jab he woulda won!" or "If Ricky kept his cool he woulda won!" or "if Shane kept throwing like in round 2 he woulda won".

Most of the time, Floyd is the reason those things aren't happening. I don't think he gets enough credit for that.

In a way, he does himself no favours by thoroughly outclassing opposition the way he does. I actually think people would respect him more if he won close 115-113's once in a while because he makes every world-class opponent he faces look like garbage with these wide scores.

That's normally true, but that's not what happended to Shane. Shane looked like RJJ v Calzaghe. He dropped him early but didn't have the body to continue. He was the epitome of "getting old overnight"...

I'll say so the floyd blindsiders won't have to defend it...

YES!!!! Floyd did a great job in winning the fight.



























But it still doesn't change the fact that Shane looked his age from the first bell, and it wasn't because floyd was doing anything special....

I was really disappointed with the fight tbh, because after 3 rounds it was completely clear how the fight was going to go.

As a guy who used to throw big bombs on the heavybag myself I know full well if you're loading up on 1 shot at a time AND trying to pick a spot to throw the punch then you're burning serious energy and all that bouncing around Shane did was useless. I have never seen Floyd use that more orthodox defense that often...it looked as if the left hook to the body was wide open. Shane needed to set up the right hand but Floyd negated everything he did with speed and defense.


You do have to wonder what would have been the case had a younger fresher fighter with good power caught Floyd. I have to admit that given the way Pacquiao looked vs De la Hoya, Hatton, and Cotto and had he landed a flush punch on Floyd as opposed to Shane landing the punch then you have to wonder how Floyd would have taken it.

This was an awesome round had me shouting for a Shane KO! Pissed me off how Mayweather hung on to that arm so Shane could get it free i believe he could have dropped him had they not clinched but like you say Shane lost something in that round and it showed for the rest of the fight it just didnt seem right?!

Originally Posted by BIG H

I was really disappointed with the fight tbh, because after 3 rounds it was completely clear how the fight was going to go.

Yeah like all of Mayweathers fights ......i hate that guy!

I thought Floyd Mayweather Jr had recovered late in the round, and he was coming back with shots of his own. You simply gotta give credit to Floyd Mayweather Jr for coming back and he has done in the past aswell. Just not many times because he hasn't had to.

i think if mosley wore cleto reyes gloves (puncher's gloves), his preferred brand of gloves then i think he could have scored a knockdown. team mayweather required mosley to wear the grant brand of gloves.

i think the main point missed in this round is Floyd's heart... he didn't run and came out in rd 3 stronger.

hell i think Floyd is a dick be the guy deserves massive credit for last night.... i really see rd 2 and 3 playing out again if he meets pac.

I now belive Pac will hurt him just the same if not better than shane and the fact Floyd can recover and hurt you back will make their fight a classic.

really hope it happens now moreso than ever