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    Default The new home for the political stuff in the Cotto-Foreman thread is here

    I hope Cotto beats the hell out of him. Why? The very word Israel upsets me these days. It will be funny to see Foreman dribble some teeth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I hope Cotto beats the hell out of him. Why? The very word Israel upsets me these days. It will be funny to see Foreman dribble some teeth.
    You are hoping a boxer, Yuri Foreman, loses because of Israeli policies? That's ridiculous to me and qualifies for a neg rep Holmes although not my style.
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 06-03-2010 at 06:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I hope Cotto beats the hell out of him. Why? The very word Israel upsets me these days. It will be funny to see Foreman dribble some teeth.
    You are hoping Foreman loses because he is Israeli? That's insulting and really qualifies for a neg rep Holmes.
    In this instance I do indeed hope he loses. Am I familar with his character? It's irrelevant, right now he is representing a terrorist state. I cannot and will not suport that. I hope Cotto busts him up. Simple as. The very flag upsets me. Israel brought it upon itself.

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    ...Well Miles, we're al entitled to our opinions but as we learned from Schmeling/Louis sometimes political views held by fighters are not as cut and dry as it may look from the outside.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    ...Well Miles, we're al entitled to our opinions but as we learned from Schmeling/Louis sometimes political views held by fighters are not as cut and dry as it may look from the outside.
    So you think Israel is in the right in this situation? LOL, I know my own views. I'm quite alright. But in this situation for sure I am anti Jew. Not a bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    ...Well Miles, we're al entitled to our opinions but as we learned from Schmeling/Louis sometimes political views held by fighters are not as cut and dry as it may look from the outside.
    So you think Israel is in the right in this situation? LOL, I know my own views. I'm quite alright. But in this situation for sure I am anti Jew. Not a bother.
    How did you get that from anything I've posted?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    ...Well Miles, we're al entitled to our opinions but as we learned from Schmeling/Louis sometimes political views held by fighters are not as cut and dry as it may look from the outside.
    So you think Israel is in the right in this situation? LOL, I know my own views. I'm quite alright. But in this situation for sure I am anti Jew. Not a bother.
    How did you get that from anything I've posted?
    You did make suggestions about certain Nazi fighters. Regardless, I would like Foreman to lose. i won't deny it, I despise his government and want his system to suffer
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    Default Re: Official Cotto VS Foreman POLL and discussion thread!

    [QUOTE=miles;883671]
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    I hope Cotto beats the hell out of him. Why? The very word Israel upsets me these days. It will be funny to see Foreman dribble some teeth.
    You are hoping Foreman loses because he is Israeli? That's insulting and really qualifies for a neg rep Holmes.
    In this instance I do indeed hope he loses. Am I familar with his character? It's irrelevant, right now he is representing a terrorist state. I cannot and will not suport that. I hope Cotto busts him up. Simple as. The very flag upsets me. Israel brought it upon itself.[/QUOTE]


    Suit yourself.

    This is a boxing message board. I wonder does it also function as a political message board? Isn't there another section of this site where you can vent your political frustration? If there isn't, maybe there should be. I believe it's inappropriate in the context of a boxing message board. It makes sense in a political message board because people can pick and choose what threads they open, but when I open a boxing thread about Floyd Mayweather I don't want to read about the hate of black people. Likewise, when I open a thread about the Cotto-Foreman fight, I don't want to discuss the current geopolitcal situation in the middleeast. If condoned, I think it risks alienating posters like myself who come to this board to discuss boxing, not politics.

    It could just be me though. I guess making statements about a fighter's nationality as the reason I want him to be physically injured just seems a little out of line to me. I can't imagine I personally would ever do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    ...Well Miles, we're al entitled to our opinions but as we learned from Schmeling/Louis sometimes political views held by fighters are not as cut and dry as it may look from the outside.
    So you think Israel is in the right in this situation? LOL, I know my own views. I'm quite alright. But in this situation for sure I am anti Jew. Not a bother.
    How did you get that from anything I've posted?
    You did make suggestions about certain Nazi fighters. Regardless, I would like Foreman to lose. i won't deny it, I despise his government and want his system to suffer
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    ...Well Miles, we're al entitled to our opinions but as we learned from Schmeling/Louis sometimes political views held by fighters are not as cut and dry as it may look from the outside.
    So you think Israel is in the right in this situation? LOL, I know my own views. I'm quite alright. But in this situation for sure I am anti Jew. Not a bother.
    How did you get that from anything I've posted?
    You did make suggestions about certain Nazi fighters. Regardless, I would like Foreman to lose. i won't deny it, I despise his government and want his system to suffer
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    Hmmm... Well then you missed the entire point I intended to make. The point was that although outwardly Schmeling was seen as the "Nazi" conquerer of the weak American when he had his first fight with Joe Louis, he was, in fact not a supporter of the Nazi party.

    My point was one can not tell ones views simply by being geographically affiliated with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I hope Cotto beats the hell out of him. Why? The very word Israel upsets me these days. It will be funny to see Foreman dribble some teeth.
    You are hoping Foreman loses because he is Israeli? That's insulting and really qualifies for a neg rep Holmes.
    In this instance I do indeed hope he loses. Am I familar with his character? It's irrelevant, right now he is representing a terrorist state. I cannot and will not suport that. I hope Cotto busts him up. Simple as. The very flag upsets me. Israel brought it upon itself.

    Suit yourself.

    This is a boxing message board. I wonder does it also function as a political message board? Isn't there another section of this site where you can vent your political frustration? If there isn't, maybe there should be. I believe it's inappropriate in the context of a boxing message board. It makes sense in a political message board because people can pick and choose what threads they open, but when I open a boxing thread about Floyd Mayweather I don't want to read about the hate of black people. Likewise, when I open a thread about the Cotto-Foreman fight, I don't want to discuss the current geopolitcal situation in the middleeast. If condoned, I think it risks alienating posters like myself who come to this board to discuss boxing, not politics.

    It could just be me though. I guess making statements about a fighter's nationality as the reason I want him to be physically injured just seems a little out of line to me. I can't imagine I personally would ever do it.
    I agree 100%, especially the bolded part. That is a fucking ridiculous thing to say. Especially, the "I hate despise his government (he currently lives in Brooklyn btw) and I want his system to suffer". How would Foreman losing a fight make any system suffer?
    Last edited by CFH; 06-03-2010 at 09:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON View Post
    ...Well Miles, we're al entitled to our opinions but as we learned from Schmeling/Louis sometimes political views held by fighters are not as cut and dry as it may look from the outside.
    So you think Israel is in the right in this situation? LOL, I know my own views. I'm quite alright. But in this situation for sure I am anti Jew. Not a bother.
    How did you get that from anything I've posted?
    You did make suggestions about certain Nazi fighters. Regardless, I would like Foreman to lose. i won't deny it, I despise his government and want his system to suffer
    .
    Hmmm... Well then you missed the entire point I intended to make. The point was that although outwardly Schmeling was seen as the "Nazi" conquerer of the weak American when he had his first fight with Joe Louis, he was, in fact not a supporter of the Nazi party.

    My point was one can not tell ones views simply by being geographically affiliated with them.
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    Default The new home for the political stuff in the Cotto-Foreman thread is...

    I agree with everything Rantcatrat posted. The main board is for talking about boxing, not for making political statements. The posts have been moved to this thread.
    Last edited by CFH; 06-03-2010 at 10:11 PM.

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    Hmm I think Miles is losing it, I hope he's not the next Derick Bird


    Also this kind of hate is so counter productive to any argument you have to make. I mean yesterday you said you wish you had beaten up the last Jew you met in Korea. Now you want this Jewish man to get knocked out and beaten brutally, all because of their mistreatment of those who bomb them?

    How can you campaign against violence and hate by spewing violence and hate?

    Come on Miles, I expected better from you.

    Also have a look at the hundreds of links I provided on the other thread.
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    I think we should separate the man from its State, the boxer from the Israelite. If Foreman would have said things like those on the boat did deserve to die, that's all another story but at the moment, I don't think that we should sentence the boxer and to give him such hate because the country where he comes from is losing it. If I would be a boxer, I would be very pissed off if peoples would hate me solely because I am Canadian and because what my Country has done, especially if I do not endorse its ideas.
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