Thread: Who did you have winning Cloud vs. Campillo

The official scores

Dennis Nelson 115-111 Campillo (9 rounds for Campillo - 2 knockdowns)

David Robertson 116-110 Cloud (8 rounds for Cloud + 2 knockdowns)

Jose Elizando 114-112 Cloud (6 rounds each + 2 knockdowns)

Didn't score it round by round but definitely felt Campillo schooled him.

Originally Posted by killersheep

The official scores

Dennis Nelson 115-111 Campillo (9 rounds for Campillo - 2 knockdowns)

David Robertson 116-110 Cloud (8 rounds for Cloud + 2 knockdowns)

Jose Elizando 114-112 Cloud (6 rounds each + 2 knockdowns)

I had it the same as Dennis Nelson. The Robertson card is ludicrous and the Elizando card was wrong.

116-111 Campillo. He was literally hitting him from all angles and in no way can the kd's make up the gap....David robertson needs to fired for incompetence.

Im way behind on my boxing didn't even know Tavoris Cloud was fighting, gonna watch this one soon and do a RBR scorecard and post it up here.

Originally Posted by killersheep

The official scores

Dennis Nelson 115-111 Campillo (9 rounds for Campillo - 2 knockdowns)

David Robertson 116-110 Cloud (8 rounds for Cloud + 2 knockdowns)

Jose Elizando 114-112 Cloud (6 rounds each + 2 knockdowns)

Judge Dennis Nelson saw it about the same way I did, there's no way that Cloud came close to winning that fight.

I think we already have a favourite to get robbery of the year award.

1 Cloud 10-7
2 Campillo 10-9
3 Campillo 10-9
4 Cloud 10-9
5 Campillo 10-9
6 Cloud 10-9
7 Campillo 10-9
8 Campillo 10-9
9 Campillo 10-9
10 Campillo 10-9
11 Cloud 10-9
12 Cloud 10-9

113-113 Draw.

My opinion doesn't seem popular but IMO, the rounds Campillo won he dominated no question. But there was a few rounds he took his foot off the gas. And allowed it to still be semi close, i thought Campillo had a comfortable lead going into the last 2 rounds. Then crazily he starts showboating allowing Cloud to edge his way back into it.

Campillo won the 1st half of the 11th round, but then when the doctor checked Cloud's cut. That seemed to wake up Cloud and he went to work in the 2nd half of the round, and even stunned Campillo with a hard right hand, i think he edged a very close 11th round.

Then in the 12th round Cloud just steadily went to work, and just about outworked Campillo to win the round, who again showboated too much and didn't close the show.

As i said overall Campillo did win his rounds very convincingly, but he was floored x2 and he did allow Cloud to steal some rounds. There's no way Cloud won this fight i want to make that clear, but i did feel he stole enough rounds to just about earn a draw with the 3 point round early on.

116-111. Cloud only one the first round and round 6.

Even if you were really trying to give Cloud rounds, no way you can give him more than a couple more (honestly I don't even see the case for that -- the 11th was better for Cloud only because the previous ones had been so bad -- he didn't win it.)

All due respect to ICB, I don't see how you can possibly give R4 or R12 to Cloud. Especially 4.

Originally Posted by ICB

1 Cloud 10-7
2 Campillo 10-9
3 Campillo 10-9
4 Cloud 10-9
5 Campillo 10-9
6 Cloud 10-9
7 Campillo 10-9
8 Campillo 10-9
9 Campillo 10-9
10 Campillo 10-9
11 Cloud 10-9
12 Cloud 10-9

113-113 Draw.

My opinion doesn't seem popular but IMO, the rounds Campillo won he dominated no question. But there was a few rounds he took his foot off the gas. And allowed it to still be semi close, i thought Campillo had a comfortable lead going into the last 2 rounds. Then crazily he starts showboating allowing Cloud to edge his way back into it.

Campillo won the 1st half of the 11th round, but then when the doctor checked Cloud's cut. That seemed to wake up Cloud and he went to work in the 2nd half of the round, and even stunned Campillo with a hard right hand, i think he edged a very close 11th round.

Then in the 12th round Cloud just steadily went to work, and just about outworked Campillo to win the round, who again showboated too much and didn't close the show.

As i said overall Campillo did win his rounds very convincingly, but he was floored x2 and he did allow Cloud to steal some rounds. There's no way Cloud won this fight i want to make that clear, but i did feel he stole enough rounds to just about earn a draw with the 3 point round early on.

This post is SPOT ON. Its like I wrote it. I saw every round exactly the same as ICB. 6-3 in clear rounds to Campillo with 3 up for grabs (4, 9 and 11).

As a result I feel the fair and just scores would have Campillo winning by 1 or 2 pts or have it a Draw.

The 8-4 Cloud card is as big a piece of BS as you will see however. Its plain cheating.

And there is no bias here. I had bets on Campillo Pts and the Draw cos I thought it would be a close 12 rounder. If I were bias clearly I would have had Campillo walking it like some have.

I scored it originally a draw even though Campillo was clearly the dominant fighter. It's about winning rounds though and I thought Cloud stole rounds just on activity. To be honest I want to rewatch it but I thought Cloud stole the 11th and Campillo took the 12th off and just coasted while Cloud stayed busy. Cloud still has real power, he really is a better version of Jeff Lacy.

I think the thing no one is talking about is how much bigger physically Campillo was then Cloud. I think that's what allowed Campillo to move Cloud straight back. I wonder if Cloud would ever consider 168. Either way, Cloud won't stay undefeated for too terribly long with all the movers in the division but he also has legitimate power in both hands and can beat anybody on any given night.

I would like to rewatch it though, watched it on stream which was actually really good quality but still a little sketchy. Sometimes I have crazy variances in how I score fights but either way Cloud got schooled and he might have stolen some close rounds. I felt pretty comfortable initially he won round 4, round 11 I thought he was losing but I think he also hurt Campillo in that round. Round 12, Cloud dug to the body well and was just a lot busier then Campillo but Campillo did land a couple combinations.

I don't know, if there were gift rounds to Cloud then it was 11 and 12 but it was on Campillo at that point to know what the deal was in that situation. Too bad.

9-3 Campillo. Really no other way to score it, pretty cut and dry domination from Campillo, the man won 9 rounds clearly. Felt he gave away the last round playing it safe, but other than that he absolutely schooled Cloud.

It was a pleasant surprise to see the unheralded Campillo may be the best light heavyweight in the world. From what I saw he is an expert boxer. Masterful.

9-3 campilo and the judge that had cloud dominating isn't even blind, or paid off but just mentally handicapped cause even a judge on the take surely would be embarassed to turn in a score like that.

a draw would be ok imo , but I had Campillo winning 114-112. That one judge who had it 116-110 (or so) for Cloud should be suspended or lose his license .