Thread: I just want to say: "F*ck boxing!!" so bad...... but I can't :-(

That's all.

Because a close fight was scored closely? Cry me a river.

Originally Posted by Taeth

Because a close fight was scored closely? Cry me a river.

You're always delusional, so your opinion doesn't count.

lol I am a bigger pacquiao fan then most people, I've spent what little money at that point I had to see him live. I think HBO was delusional. Honestly just watch the fight again, I think people who were drinking thought Manny landed a lot more than he did, and they will see the crap compubox put forth. They fought at such a highly, with such fast exchanges so often. I think that was the fastest paced fight I've ever seen, if you include their quickness and total body movement. Manny just didn't have the cardio to go hard late in the fight and seal the deal.

Originally Posted by Taeth

lol I am a bigger pacquiao fan then most people, I've spent what little money at that point I had to see him live. I think HBO was delusional. Honestly just watch the fight again, I think people who were drinking thought Manny landed a lot more than he did, and they will see the crap compubox put forth. They fought at such a highly, with such fast exchanges so often. I think that was the fastest paced fight I've ever seen, if you include their quickness and total body movement. Manny just didn't have the cardio to go hard late in the fight and seal the deal.

If you're a Pacquiao fan, then you saw a different fight than most people. Pacquiao was much more accurate and landing to the head a lot more often than Bradley. Bradley's style is very uncomfortable, but from an offense standpoint he really didn't do all that much. So you're saying everybody else got it wrong: the HBO commentators, CompuBox, the fans at MGM....... hell, even Bradley himself didn't seem all that comfortable with the decision. I kinda feel sorry for him, it's not his fault... he gave it his all. But c'mon!!

Like I said I've been to MGM grand, most of the people don't see the fight that closely in the arena, people are standing up in front of you making it hard to see. You can't see really accurately how cleanly punches are being landed. HBO has been out to lunch before like in the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight, both in terms of their observation(same crew) and compubox. Manny really wasn't landing that many head punches, and certainly not twice as many as Bradley, that was crap. Bradley landed plenty to Manny's head just not as devastating so they don't get remembered as much. It's like when Marquez fought Pacquiao people were crying murder because Marquez landed the more easily identified punches, and I felt Pacquiao landed way more clean blows then him, this fight it was the case, at least not like they presented. Bradley landed a lot, both to the head and body. He certianly did better body work and he won the last four rounds, that's almost half the fight. There were several close rounds early. HBO has been wrong a lot, even in Pacquiao's last fight it was way closer than they said. Pacquiao should have also won that by a 2 or 3 rounds, not a landslide.

I feel sorry for Bradley also, he put up an amazing fight, really fought through adversity and people are giving him no credit. He fought nearly at the same level as Pacquiao, if he did lose its because he didn't have the same amount of power, but IMO there were times he made Pacquiao look really bad, and miss a lot of shots consecutively, and it showed in Pacqiao's deminished stamina late.

Fuck elite boxing so bad. Hehe

Bradley fought well but won 4 rounds the way I saw it. He got hurt a couple times and pressed very little. PAC was the aggressor and had cleaner effective punches.

Good fight...money driven decision

Was Manny the aggressor? I saw Bradley throw a lot more punches, coming forward just as much trading shots with Manny many times. There is no way Manny was the sole aggressor in this fight just because Bradley chose to more fully box a few times along the way. Once again people aren't taking the whole fight into account, and many times Bradley took the fight Manny especially in the last four rounds, that's 33% of the fight! He also did very well in the early rounds. That's only two of the many close rounds he needed to win. Even when HBO had Manny way ahead they didn't often felt like he was winning close competitive rounds. EVen some of those middle rounds he was clearly winning weren't super one sided people will have to see when they can watch the fight again.

I had money on Bradley but Pacman won easy. I dont give a damn on the money i won , Pacman was the winner . If anyone scored it for Bradley , they don't know anything about boxing.

I thought it would be unanimous here as to the fact that Pacquiao won, but I guess that's not the case. Regardless of how ludicruous it may seem, some people thought it was a close fight and that Bradley may have won.

But this just emphasizes the problem. Opinions are so far-ranging in major fights sometimes, that it makes for lousy, controversial decisions. The major network commentators are also becoming more and more vocal in their dislike of some of these decisions.

The fact is nobody wins here. Boxing is the ultimate loser. Who wants to continue following a sport where after 12 rounds of battle, we have to be subjected to the judges' whim? Where the possibility of incompetence and corruption is on everyone's mind? Who wants to continue to see fights after seeing something like tonight?

Attempts have been made to make judging more objective, such as the CompuBox numbers. Both even those are dependent on input based on human observation. And yet we continue to have extremely controversial decisions.

What irks me is that no one within the sport and with any power is doing a damn thing to try to rectify the situation. It's not like boxing is enjoying a huge amount of popularity right now. This sort of shit makes it worse.

I thought Bradley edged a close fight and the judges were surprisingly on the ball.

Good decision.

I'm not saying Bradley won, I am just saying it was close and this is a perfect example of compubox failing. Manny landed a lot, but he missed way more than he landed, a lot of close punches were barely missing, but they were missing. If Manny landed that many power punches he would have ko'ed Bradley. That fact is that he was bleeding worse than Bradley despite the power difference, he was more gassed than Bradley, there has to be a reason for that. The reason was that it was a tough fight. Once again I am saying that I felt Manny won, but by about 2 rounds. People are upset because Manny is so popular and his style is easy to see winning, but in this instance he looked better to the average viewer than he actually was. I think he actually was the best technically and on the ball I've ever seen, but I mean in terms of Bradley being able to hang with him and really give him all kinds of trouble.