Thread: Any more SMUG a fighter out there than Andre Ward?

Just putting something together about Carl Froch and watching over the Super Six tapes and docs. I mean, Andre Ward is a seriously smug, dry, never a smile, answer for everything, sounding like he reads from scripts mofo man. Are there many other fighters out there if any that are as smug, not boasting, just smug, than he is?

Just an opinion. I really begun to dislike him after watching so much tape of the guy. Anyone else?

Shoot.

David Haye, end of discussion

He should be little smug, did I read spoiler out there yesterday? Andre has spoiled, ruined, stomped on, upset, disregarded and disrespected a bunch of people's plan's over last couple of years. He did what he said he was going to do, and with as little trash talk as possible. Andre is one of the good guys, you remember them, the ones who let their fists do the talking. He speaks softly and carries a big stick. Andre is that person everybody is always talking about, THE MAN! Go ahead, Mr Ward, be as smug as you want to be!

Yeah, say what you will about Andre Ward, but he's gotten in the ring with everyone and kept on winning. Haye just talks endless amounts of shit while fighting nobodies and complaining when he loses. What has Haye ever achieved as a heavyweight? He won the easiest belt there was to win and then didn't do hardly anything to try to keep that title....Bush league man....Bush League

Originally Posted by beenKOed

He should be little smug, did I read spoiler out there yesterday? Andre has spoiled, ruined, stomped on, upset, disregarded and disrespected a bunch of people's plan's over last couple of years. He did what he said he was going to do, and with as little trash talk as possible. Andre is one of the good guys, you remember them, the ones who let their fists do the talking. He speaks softly and carries a big stick. Andre is that person everybody is always talking about, THE MAN! Go ahead, Mr Ward, be as smug as you want to be!

Gotta say, he bores me stiff. Dull personality, monotone, no smile or humour and zero fan appeal. I'd certainly question whether EVERYONE talks about him otherwise he'd be a big ticket seller for Vegas. He isn't and won't be unless sometime he is hit by lighting to give him a jolt. Might do a poll on here after the Ward Dawson fight to see how many people had a near death experience through boredom at watching the fight.

Haye, Froch, Green, Khan, Chavez Jr, Broner, and Rios all fit the bill

He has earned the right to be smug (Ward)

Originally Posted by Chiccy2112

He has earned the right to be smug (Ward)

You know, your right, but, as is, he'll never really earn adulation from boxing fans world wide IMO. In such a fan friendly sport, the way fighters need to connect with fans, he just doesn't seem to do it for me at all....

Originally Posted by TheMacMagician

Originally Posted by Chiccy2112

He has earned the right to be smug (Ward)

You know, your right, but, as is, he'll never really earn adulation from boxing fans world wide IMO. In such a fan friendly sport, the way fighters need to connect with fans, he just doesn't seem to do it for me at all....

It will just have to be a long-term thing. As has been said countless times, the closest model is Hopkins. He got his adulation in his 40s. (He had his accolades before, for sure, from the Trinidad/ODLH fights, etc., but it was begrudging because of his fan-unfriendly style -- much like Ward.)

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Yeah, say what you will about Andre Ward, but he's gotten in the ring with everyone and kept on winning. Haye just talks endless amounts of shit while fighting nobodies and complaining when he loses. What has Haye ever achieved as a heavyweight? He won the easiest belt there was to win and then didn't do hardly anything to try to keep that title....Bush league man....Bush League

What is Bush league?

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Yeah, say what you will about Andre Ward, but he's gotten in the ring with everyone and kept on winning. Haye just talks endless amounts of shit while fighting nobodies and complaining when he loses. What has Haye ever achieved as a heavyweight? He won the easiest belt there was to win and then didn't do hardly anything to try to keep that title....Bush league man....Bush League

What is Bush league?

bush league
Noun:
A minor league of a professional sport, esp. baseball.
Adjective:
Not of the highest quality or sophistication; second-rate.

Bush league: someone doing the
wrong thing at the wrong time.
Merriam-Webster: minor league

Wards a smart fighter.... boring but smart. He uses a jab then fights inside and softens guys up... hits on the break, uses his head, tries to spin people and used his distance to take leverage off his opponents punches. Hes making a career off those those tactics. Many of those things are the secrets to Hopkins logenvity, as someone else has said. Andre ward 2.0 is more a lean towards hopkins. Version 1 was his an impersonation of roy jones. He got clipped a few times doing that decided to tone it down. I'm not much of a fan ...as i would guess many people aren't outside of Oakland.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Haye, Froch, Green, Khan, Chavez Jr, Broner, and Rios all fit the bill

Imagine a round table with these guys and ward, how do you think it would end up?

Mayweather, not so smug now he's in a cell. But he was king of smugness.

Wlad Klitchsko, very smug.

Khan, prince of smug.


The top two have every right to be, but still.

In fact, 95% of the fighters I think of are smug gits.