The bolded seems a good point, but the only difference is your car would not be public transport and therefore your 'job' would not involve a duty of care. He was being paid to ensure that the train was safe to depart. He clearly failed to do this. Her being drunk does not mean that he had the right to suspend his duty of care.
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I just struggle to see beyond the fact that there is a drugged and boozed up person leaning on a train. It is just such a stupid thing to be doing. I think we also have a thing called self responsibility and if I open my window and tumble 10 floors and land on my head, it is basically my fault and in her own way she did basically kill herself. I can see that the man is on duty, but since when does anyone lean on a bloody train? Just bizarre.
It is a freak accident and on that basis I feel the penalty is far too harsh. The mans life is ruined. The girl lost her own life.
How taxing is the job of the guard? Essentially his job involves making sure it is safe for the train to leave the station? It was not safe. He failed in his duty.
If his life is ruined it's his own fault.
The girl would still be alive and he wouldn't be in prison had he done the correct thing and not allowed the train to move.
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She would be alive if she wasn't pissed up leaning on a train.
If he failed to do his job then sack him, but putting him in prison for years isn't going to achieve anything.
Mark is right with his 'tragedy of circumstances' view. It is tragic and awful, but is just one of them things.
so who here has NEVER made a mistake in their job ?
People get community service for burglary first offence, even muggings etc... Or if they do do jail its about 30 days cos they are a victim of society or some bollocks like that
Who are the bigger criminals ? If a guard gets 5 years for gross negligence what should they really get in comparison ?
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Exactly, if one of my students stabs another one with a pair of scissors and there is a death am I culpable because I was supposed to be controlling them? It sets a horrible precedent to be jailing someone for years because some silly girl was leaning on a TRAIN. She was leaning on a TRAIN. I mean, hello girlfriend! Whatchya think ya doing? The man didn't push her or make her lean on it. She chose to do it and she is dead because of that.
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The thing is Miles, he didn't make the mistake of not noticing her. He saw that she was leaning on the train yet still instructed the train to pull away. That is not a typical work mistake that is gross negligence which unfortunately for him and the girl resulted in death. I don't contend that the girl was blameless, clearly not, but the guard certainly isn't either.
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So its settled then. That renegade train guard won't be instructing trains to leave any time soon. Thank god for that. We can all feel safe. (I do have sympathy for his situation).
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My only qualm is 5 years in prison. It is too much.
He won't serve 5. She will never take another breath. You cant make the argument that sentencing is too lenient for some and then say 5 years for manslaughter is too harsh. A jury would have been privvy to way more information and evidence than we are and they found him guilty.
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