Thread: Dangerous Dogs

It's all an ego thing.

Define a "dangerous dog". A dog is not inherently dangerous, just because of its breed or even size.

In actual fact, the most aggressive dogs are the smallest ones. A Jack Russell or terrier type will bite ankles daily and nothing is done.

It's not the dogs at fault, it's the owners.

What happened recently was a terrible tragedy. But that shouldn't mean a cull of all dogs that won't fit in a hand bag.

Bad owners are usually the cause of potential attacks, but do you really want a ticking time bomb that can cause irreversible scarring or fatal attacks in about 30 seconds to either your kids or yourself?

All owners swear by their dogs and say the same thing. The difference is that if humans have a bad day we might curse and get stressed but a dog (esp the notorious ones) dont have that ability.

Eventually though we will all travel to work in cars that drive themselves at 20mph, whilst covered in bubble wrap. Chewing gum will be banned for safety reasons and pets banned because they may attack. The sad fact of life is that shit happens, banning everything isn't always a good thing.

I'm sure more people and children die from chewing gum than dogs actually. No idea on the stats though.

We have domesticated the dogs to one degree or another to be reliant on that owner. If the owner has that bad day and lashes out, stresses, the dog feeds off that. Not to go all fruity but a young dog should be treated to an extent like a impressionable child. Some breeds have taken on the persona of the ones who commonly own them...at least locally. Pitts are used as a status symbol or macho crutch for often dickless hoods with a little man complex. Most aggressive dogs can be rehabilitated but there are those who are too far gone and can be of any breed known.

Originally Posted by Spicoli

We have domesticated the dogs to one degree or another to be reliant on that owner. If the owner has that bad day and lashes out, stresses, the dog feeds off that. Not to go all fruity but a young dog should be treated to an extent like a impressionable child. Some breeds have taken on the persona of the ones who commonly own them...at least locally. Pitts are used as a status symbol or macho crutch for often dickless hoods with a little man complex. Most aggressive dogs can be rehabilitated but there are those who are too far gone and can be of any breed known.

The thing is most dick heads with theses dogs, can't look after themselves never mind a dog,
when you train your dog to guard, or aggression to people you must remember you have
to be careful. Lets face it theses people are not the careful type, I have breed dogs and I
can tell you, its not the dog its the dick head that owns them.
I have been face to face, with many nasty dogs, its not nice regardless of breed, I put it
down to the dick head that owned them, because that what they wanted.!
Dangerous owners make dangerous dogs, it's a fact .!

this tragedy happens every few weeks in New Jersey and across the river in New York. Makes me sick.

In this girl's case, if they wanted the meat pie, why didnt she just throw it to them when they approached her menacingly? Anyone can tell when a dog is starting to be menacing. They growl in this deep throaty way and you know something is amiss. I'd a tossed that fucking meat pie all the hell way across the back yard and went in and ate some crackers instead.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

this tragedy happens every few weeks in New Jersey and across the river in New York. Makes me sick.

In this girl's case, if they wanted the meat pie, why didnt she just throw it to them when they approached her menacingly? Anyone can tell when a dog is starting to be menacing. They growl in this deep throaty way and you know something is amiss. I'd a tossed that fucking meat pie all the hell way across the back yard and went in and ate some crackers instead.

Trouble is when your a kid, you don't think it sounds to me the dogs were the masters in the house bud,
poor girl did not stand a chance.That amount of dogs in a confined space, it was a recipe for disaster
and it was she paid with her life.

Originally Posted by 0james0

Define a "dangerous dog". A dog is not inherently dangerous, just because of its breed or even size.

In actual fact, the most aggressive dogs are the smallest ones. A Jack Russell or terrier type will bite ankles daily and nothing is done.

It's not the dogs at fault, it's the owners.

What happened recently was a terrible tragedy. But that shouldn't mean a cull of all dogs that won't fit in a hand bag.

Good post, man.

In almost all cases the owner is responsible. If you are a responsible owner then measures will be taken to ensure these kind if things cannot happen.

Originally Posted by Lennox Eubank

Originally Posted by 0james0

Define a "dangerous dog". A dog is not inherently dangerous, just because of its breed or even size.

In actual fact, the most aggressive dogs are the smallest ones. A Jack Russell or terrier type will bite ankles daily and nothing is done.

It's not the dogs at fault, it's the owners.

What happened recently was a terrible tragedy. But that shouldn't mean a cull of all dogs that won't fit in a hand bag.

Good post, man.

In almost all cases the owner is responsible. If you are a responsible owner then measures will be taken to ensure these kind if things cannot happen.

There is a big difference between being bit on the ankles by a Jack Russell and having a 12 stone Pit Bull launch itself at you. There is a lot of propaganda on both sides but the facts are not so easy to dismiss. Pitbulls and Staffordshire Bull Terriers are bred from Bulldogs for strength and terriers for gameness. They are working dogs that started life fighting bears and bulls before being bred to fight each other. Staffies seem to get a bad press often because owners are calling what is in fact a pitbull or crossed pitbull a staffie to prevent being prosecuted.

When studies conclude that 94% of attacks on children by Pitbulls are unprovoked compared to 42% in other breeds you can't pretend that breed has nothing to do with it. The fact is that there is a much higher risk of death when attacked by a dog descended from fighting stock than that of other breeds. Why take that risk when you have kids? Staffies are a lot more distantly related than pitbulls from the original fighting stock and like pitbulls are very loyal without being potentially dangerous but that danger is still there. It is also true that a lot of criminal irresponsible aggressive dipshits are attracted to the idea of owning such a breed and like any other dog they need care and training something those types of idiot are unlikely to give. It then makes it seem like even responsible owners are looking after a potential time bomb.

There is such a thing as a dangerous dog, and ironically owning one when you have kids is unlikely to protect them, because they often like people, and are not ideal to be trained as attack or guard dogs. They are descended from fighting dogs though, and their unpredictability and propensity and inbred ability to inflict major damage and even kill does expose anyone in their vicinity to more danger. Most dangerous dog attacks are suffered by friends or members of the owners family,not strangers.

It all depends on the owner 99% of the time. You treat your dog with care give it a good life and you'll have a loving, friendly dog you need not worry about. You give your dog a shitty life and make it aggressive then your more to blame than the poor dog if something does happen.

Lots of people should be allowed to have dog's that's something that needs to be dealt with not 'dangerous dogs'.

I was watching crimewatch the other day and this family were being burgled and apparently the dog was scared to death and didnt do anything.

Surely you can train any dog to be a bit of guard dog without being too aggresive?

Whats the point in having a dog if its not going to risk its life for your family.

Yeah, yeah i know its mans best friend and loving family pet but if i ever had to get a dog it wouldnt be a pit bull/staffie type (i have kids) but it would be something that has some balls and would protect my family.

Up here you cannot own more then 3 dogs unless you are a musher. 5 dogs together regardless of the breed turns into a pack which is something that cannot be bred out. Sad about the kid but I blame the owners.

Originally Posted by imp

I was watching crimewatch the other day and this family were being burgled and apparently the dog was scared to death and didnt do anything.

Surely you can train any dog to be a bit of guard dog without being too aggresive?

Whats the point in having a dog if its not going to risk its life for your family.

Yeah, yeah i know its mans best friend and loving family pet but if i ever had to get a dog it wouldnt be a pit bull/staffie type (i have kids) but it would be something that has some balls and would protect my family.

My friend had his house robbed the dog did nothing but take the pat on the head as they stole the goods.

Originally Posted by 0james0

Define a "dangerous dog". A dog is not inherently dangerous, just because of its breed or even size.

In actual fact, the most aggressive dogs are the smallest ones. A Jack Russell or terrier type will bite ankles daily and nothing is done.

It's not the dogs at fault, it's the owners.

What happened recently was a terrible tragedy. But that shouldn't mean a cull of all dogs that won't fit in a hand bag.

You have a good point. I remember having a paper round when I was younger where there was a little terrier which always tried to bite me through the letterbox and it often ripped up the newspapers. It was as it it was always waiting for me haha :P