Thread: Lucas "The Machine" Matthysse VS Adrian "The Problem" Broner

A very likely chain of events could put together a super fight in the 140lb division. It could go something like this:

--Broner fights and beats Malignaggi in a hard fought fight in which he wins by knockout

--Matthysse goes in and obliterates the 140lb kingpin Danny Garcia in 7 rounds.

--These two meet in a clash at 140lbs on the May 2014 Mayweather card!

In reality I think that if these two were to meet it would be at 147lbs as Broner will more than likely control the negotiations and will look for the advantage. But assuming that it happens at 140lbs, how do you think this fight goes?

Broner would have 2 to 3 times the faster hands than Matthysse but Lucas has great timing and underrated abilities even after last nights destruction of Petersen. In terms of power I think they are probably around the same with Lucas having more concussive power and Broner having power generated from speed.

Broner is the more athletically gifted of the two however Matthysse carries alot of experiance and has been in with more top level competition at this point:

-Judah
-Alexander
-Petersen
-Humberto Soto
-Ajose Olusegun

I cannot pick a winner at 140lbs but at 147lbs I can see Broner being able to hurt Lucas being naturally bigger.

Who do you got?

I think Broner outpoints him. He could possibly stop him but I think Broner wins the early rounds, gets caught in the middle and loses a few rounds before regaining composure and out boxing him for the last few rounds to win 116-112

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

I think Broner outpoints him. He could possibly stop him but I think Broner wins the early rounds, gets caught in the middle and loses a few rounds before regaining composure and out boxing him for the last few rounds to win 116-112

That somewhat makes sense, however we've never seen Broner move around the rind to avoid punches. To oupoint Lucas he would have to move around thew ring, the wide stance that Broner uses doesnt lend itself to moving around to avoid bombs.

Originally Posted by Onix

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

I think Broner outpoints him. He could possibly stop him but I think Broner wins the early rounds, gets caught in the middle and loses a few rounds before regaining composure and out boxing him for the last few rounds to win 116-112

That somewhat makes sense, however we've never seen Broner move around the rind to avoid punches. To oupoint Lucas he would have to move around thew ring, the wide stance that Broner uses doesnt lend itself to moving around to avoid bombs.

Yea fair point, uses head movement to slip punches. Would be a cracking fight but I don't see it happening anytime soon

This fight should get made. Winner fights Floyd.

My reply to this.........f((((k Yes !!!

If a guy has te highest KO % in boxing, then what would actually stop him from continuing that Broner gets caught late, Mattyshe Winner by KO. And I like Broner, I just think Lucas is a Tyson-like fighter.

How's Maidanna been doing recently? Would like to see him around again throwing bombs with some of these.

I like Matthysse. I'll go with the accomplishment over yet to be fully realized promise and potential. Broner is really an inside-ish type fighter and he gets hit. Matthysse has dealt with fast hands and speed pretty well before and has only gotten better.

Let Broner steamroll Paulie and decide if hes going back to 135 as has been mentioned and Matthysse pull Garcias Fruit of the Looms up over his head first. If everything goes well, we'll see.This division is intense and its only getting better.

Broner very much picks his victims. What makes you think he'd dare to fight Matthysse?

Also, Broner gets hit pretty easily judging from the Ponce and Rees fights. That greatly favors Matthysse as it only takes one.

Broner is a lot of smoke and mirrors.

You know, Abner Mares TKO'd PDL and PDL won against Broner (in my opinion) That just shows how bizzare the 'boxing who can be who triangle' can get.

I don't know how hard Broner really hits, I know he has a very solid pop but I honestly think Lucas is a better mover than him simply because of Broner's wide stance. Broner is much faster with his hand speed but his defense leaves something to be desired. Also Lucas has been more active these last tweleve months and heck the boxing game is indeed all about practice after all.

someone asked earlier as to who could beat Lucas, I would have to same the same guy I'd believe who would win 10/10 fighting Broner, Miguel Vazquez.

Easiest hypothetical I've seen on this site.

Matthysse KOs him.

Look how many shots Gavin Rees landed clean on Broner. Too bad he isn't a puncher.

broner gives lucas some problems before lucas eventually catches him in the mid rounds. lights out for the trash talking egomaniac broner!!!

If Broner goes into "boxer" mode, IMO he can get a decision. If he goes into "shoulder roll", inside fighting mode like he did against Rees, he's going to end up taking a beating IMO. Matthysse just has too much power to do that shit/

Well I'm in the minority here. People are making far to big a deal over the little success Rees had. Not only does Lucas fight nothing like Rees but he's slow motion in comparison where speed is concerned. Sure the speed surprised Broner a bit early but he knew Gavin could not hurt him and kind of played around.


And I disagree that Broner gets beat up if he fights behind the shoulder. Lucas is slow and has very little lateral movement to work off to get Broner moving sideways in order to capitalize on getting him off balance. Paulie has a better shot at doing that. Lucas does most of his best work in a 2 foot square kill box. Broner may not have Lucas type power but he still has ko power in both hands and his combination punching is some of the best out there. I don't think Lucas has the chin he is touted to have and I think it crumbles under Broners work rate.

Broner has said he's going back to 135 and the only reason I can see him doing this is to be mentioned in the record books beside Henry Armstrong as the only two men that have done it.
There is simply way to many fights for him at 140 and he's going to end up at welter anyway.

This fight could easily get made but first we need to see Garcia in with Lucas. Broner can get his fight at 135 and then bounce up for the winner. All 3 are GBP fighters.