Thread: Could any boxer in history promote a fight better than Ricardo Mayorga ?????

Okay he did not have a lot of star power or popularity, nor was he the most skilled by any means although the fucker was tuff, however when you add in all the variables is there anyone who could sell a fight like this guy.

He's def on the short list with Ali, Tyson and Apollo Creed.

Macho Camacho and Vinny Paz deserve honorable mentions as well.

I've been a big Mayorga fan for a decade now, but one thing that irks me about his promoting the fight is that he immediately apologizes and essentially begs for forgiveness from his opponent after the match, recanting all the shit he talked.

After the first time or two he does that, you learn that everything he says before the fight is just total bullshit.

Obviously not speaking a word of English makes it impossible to put him near the top, and like Hulk said you kinda have to be winning your fights in order to keep having impact with all of the pre fight antics. Wish he did have a longer run as an elite fighter and not just an opponent though, he was pure entertainment.

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If his bite was as good as his bark he would be an all time great. I still would have liked to see a Mayorga vs Margarito fight in Mexico territory.

Longtime Mayorga fan here, dude's hilarious!

James Toney used to be good, but it's too hard to understand him now.


But yeah, some of the greatest self-promoters who could really talk up a fight are Mayorga, Muhammad Ali, Hector Camacho, David Haye, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Pazienza, James Toney, Naseem Hamed, Freddie Roach. You have to be able to back up the talk too in the ring though: some could, some couldn't...

Tyson Fury's gettin' pretty damn good at it...

Originally Posted by jon09

If his bite was as good as his bark he would be an all time great. I still would have liked to see a Mayorga vs Margarito fight in Mexico territory.

That fight would have been awesome in 03. Margarito actually wanted to face Mayorga after he beat
6Head Lewis but Mayorga, fresh off his victories of Forrest, had bigger fishes to fry..

MArgarito was unknown commodity at the time..

Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Originally Posted by jon09

If his bite was as good as his bark he would be an all time great. I still would have liked to see a Mayorga vs Margarito fight in Mexico territory.

That fight would have been awesome in 03. Margarito actually wanted to face Mayorga after he beat
6Head Lewis but Mayorga, fresh off his victories of Forrest, had bigger fishes to fry..

MArgarito was unknown commodity at the time..

I think he may have stayed an unknown commodity if he fought Mayorga in 03, but my god that would have been a brutal fight.

Originally Posted by Hulk

He's def on the short list with Ali, Tyson and Apollo Creed.

Macho Camacho and Vinny Paz deserve honorable mentions as well.

I've been a big Mayorga fan for a decade now, but one thing that irks me about his promoting the fight is that he immediately apologizes and essentially begs for forgiveness from his opponent after the match, recanting all the shit he talked.

After the first time or two he does that, you learn that everything he says before the fight is just total bullshit.

He didn't seem to be to apologetic to Vernon Forrest or Corey Spinks, he told Forrest that he was going to take his wife back to Nicaragua and make her his slave
, he told Spinks that he was going to reunite him with his dead mother which is completely past the line


He seemed to be apologetic towards Vargas and Oscar after their fights but his actions were unforgivable, bitch smacking Vargas in front of his wife and kids was insane, smacking De La hoya in back of the head and then telling him that he was going to drink the warm milk out of his wife's tits was mind boggling.


But my all-time most bizarre moment from Mayorga was in the first Forrest fight when in his corner " wow that n****r hits hard ", the HBO translator was quick on his feet and replaced the N word with black guy.

hopkins had all of puerto rico chase him out of the country...

Originally Posted by p4pking

Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita

Originally Posted by jon09

If his bite was as good as his bark he would be an all time great. I still would have liked to see a Mayorga vs Margarito fight in Mexico territory.

That fight would have been awesome in 03. Margarito actually wanted to face Mayorga after he beat
6Head Lewis but Mayorga, fresh off his victories of Forrest, had bigger fishes to fry..

MArgarito was unknown commodity at the time..

I think he may have stayed an unknown commodity if he fought Mayorga in 03, but my god that would have been a brutal fight.

It would have been a sanctioned streetfight. Put a gun to my head and I would pick Margarito.

Mayorga's unconventional style was no longer a mystery after the two forrest fights and Margarito would have been well prepared for it imo.

Both guys had granite chins but unlike Mayorga, Margarito had a certain method to his attacks and I would favor him to grind him down to a 12 round decision victory.

Originally Posted by Jerry Rice

Originally Posted by Hulk

He's def on the short list with Ali, Tyson and Apollo Creed.

Macho Camacho and Vinny Paz deserve honorable mentions as well.

I've been a big Mayorga fan for a decade now, but one thing that irks me about his promoting the fight is that he immediately apologizes and essentially begs for forgiveness from his opponent after the match, recanting all the shit he talked.

After the first time or two he does that, you learn that everything he says before the fight is just total bullshit.

He didn't seem to be to apologetic to Vernon Forrest or Corey Spinks, he told Forrest that he was going to take his wife back to Nicaragua and make her his slave
, he told Spinks that he was going to reunite him with his dead mother which is completely past the line


He seemed to be apologetic towards Vargas and Oscar after their fights but his actions were unforgivable, bitch smacking Vargas in front of his wife and kids was insane, smacking De La hoya in back of the head and then telling him that he was going to drink the warm milk out of his wife's tits was mind boggling.


But my all-time most bizarre moment from Mayorga was in the first Forrest fight when in his corner " wow that n****r hits hard ", the HBO translator was quick on his feet and replaced the N word with black guy.

I remember that well.

And his trainer told Mayorga "That was gooood!"

Sagely advice.

The Obvious for me: Ali- but Mayweather of the most recent era.

He changed his moniker from Pretty Boy to Money May then claimed others did it, no they didn't.
He prefaced his popularity by taking on fighters who already had massive followings and built on it. DLH, Hatton, Marquez, Alvarez & of course Pacman
He often used Cinco De Mayo as a likely time to fight.
Timed his -better late than never meeting with Mosley-after he trounced Margarito. They both hit all the late night talk show circuits fanning the interest- that put the PPV numbers over the million mark.
He invested $ into advertising with months in between to let them 'marinate' so to speak.


My GOAT self-Promoters
1. Ali (he wrote the book)
2. Tyson - his style sold itself.
3. Mayweather (even though me made the most money- the road was paved by Ali, Tyson & Leonard. DLH gave him his 1st BIG numbers which meant he had fought for 11 years to get that fame.)
4. Ray Leonard -(had star appeal & fought in a great era )
5. Manny Pacquaio -his style sold itself.

On Mayorga-He definitely could tick off his foes by talking bad about them. I guess I would say he had the ultimate bad boy image. The closest to him IMO would've been Jorge Luis Gonzalez- his undefeated record, size & amateur record wins over Bowe was capped off with their press conferences. But the whooping Bowe put on him shrunk him down to size



So he doesn't compare to Mayorga!

Tyson Fury must be up there with the best who else can be as good a boxer as he is and still be able to promote himself up, sing, wear the most outlandish clothes, and do some wrestling to get himself known around the world?

Originally Posted by Master

Tyson Fury must be up there with the best who else can be as good a boxer as he is and still be able to promote himself up, sing, wear the most outlandish clothes, and do some wrestling to get himself known around the world?

Yeah Fury is rare in that he actually is a bit funny. Most try to hard & fail. Plus he looks way too goofy and a funny physique, one can't but help to tune in and see if he an actually box.
Well at that!


Haye deserves a mention for talking himself into contentions @ HW. What a sell-job that was.