Thread: "The One" and why its a no win situation for floyd

Floyd Mayweather could demand Alvarez wear chainmail leggings and still make 152 pounds, if Alvarez agrees to it that's all there is to it! Whoever doesn't meet the contractual obligation is at fault. How is THAT hard to understand?

I don't think it's a "pussy" move, because Mayweather is a much smaller man and the catch weight makes sense. I do tend agree that Alvarez' belts shouldn't be on the line however, but that's a different argument and the integrity of the alphabet gangs are to blame for that.

Originally Posted by p4pking

Floyd Mayweather could demand Alvarez wear chainmail leggings and still make 152 pounds, if Alvarez agrees to it that's all there is to it! Whoever doesn't meet the contractual obligation is at fault. How is THAT hard to understand?

I don't think it's a "pussy" move, because Mayweather is a much smaller man and the catch weight makes sense. I do tend agree that Alvarez' belts shouldn't be on the line however, but that's a different argument and the integrity of the alphabet gangs are to blame for that.

I wouldn't have a problem with the catchweight if he had never fought at 154 before. But he has. One fight ago. Not only that but he had no problem preaching to anybody that would listen that he was only doing it cuz he wanted to face Cotto at his best and blah, blah, blah. What's the goal now? Face Alvarez at his worst? I mean come on. Lets call it what it is. A pussy move. I don't dislike Mayweather. Never have. I defended him plenty of times. One only needs to look at the Mayweather-Pacquiao and Mayweather-Hatton threads and see for themselves. But I'm not gonna ignore or make lame excuses for him when he's clearly in the wrong. It doesn't work that way. At least for me it doesn't.

No fighters actually want to fight anybody at their best, but of course they all say that before every fight. I never denied that Floyd wanted an edge on the weight, just pointing out that it's Canelos fault for accepting it if he wasn't confident in making it. Floyd doesn't need anyone to make excuses for him here, he called the terms and it's Alvarez who has seemingly already got an out.

This wouldn't be a big deal to me if Floyd hadn't bashed others for fighting at catchweights. Obviously, Floyd and his father think this will play a part on giving Floyd a significant advantage. We all know Floyd is one of the smartest boxers to grace the square circle. Maybe his next move will be to have his father wrap Canelos hand ala dirty Hopkins.
In the end I give both of these guys credit for this fight. Canelo turned pro before he was eighteen, fighting in those shady Mexican basically underground fights. He has been wanting to fight Floyd way back then, he probably would have fought him when he was sixteen if he had the chance. Canelo, at this point, probably could have waited for his skills to improve after a few more name fights and I give Floyd credit for taking on a young powerhouse.
We all know Floyd could make Canelo look silly but what if Canelo can get through and actually throw of Floyd's fight plan. This is definitely a Floyd fight that I can, with reason, actually think it might be exciting. The money, as always, will be on Floyd but you feel something could happen here. I was so sure Floyd would be looking for an opponent he could knockout to give the Floyd fans something they have been looking for for years other than his usual cheap shots.

Canelo has fast hands and very good timing. So I can see a fast right hand like Shane Mosely landed and Saul finishing Floyd off.

Originally Posted by TheBlondeBomber

For a very simple reason : The excuses are already lined up!

There are too many excuses already waiting ,no matter what fashion floyd wins in.

1. Alvarez was weight drained
2. He's too young and not yet at his full potential
3. He's already a big 154. 152 made him weak
4. CATHCWEIGHT CATCHWEIGHT CATCHWEIGHT !!


Now, im not saying these are not legitimate explanations, granted that floyd does emerge the victor. What i am saying is that eitther way, floyd should have done 2 things

1 waited until later in his showttime contract to fight alvarez
2. Should have done 154


He will not get credit for this fight because of his contradicting statements toward pacquiao's catchweight victories. He went from telling the world "i want to fight a guy where he is comfortable" (about cotto) to fighting at a catchweight for a title...(which should be banned). Although i think alvarez will be ready no matter what and will be in prime form for floyd....the fact still remains that its a catchweight fight and shouldnt have the "154" title at stake. If same day weigh ins were still in play alvarez would either be a super middleweight or light heavy......floyd A natural welter if u ask me....doesnt even make 154 for his light middle weight fights.

Now lets talk about experience and age. Alvarez is still a boy at 23 and is at a vast experience disadvantage. Although his # of fights are comparable to floyd's, the quality of them are not, as we have seen him fight severely smaller foes or severely outmatched whereas floyd has dominated world champions in multiple divisions. Trout was canelo's most legit 154 match in my view, and i thought trout outboxed him for the most part and flaws were exposed in canelo's stamina and technique. Given this explanation, people are already ready to say "he wasnt ready".

I believe this fight will make big bucks no doubt, but the aftermath of the decision , which i believe is floyd by SD (if alvarez can press the action and keep his stamina up) , will ultimately be a flop for floyd and his career. What do you think?

One thing I can say that we can't underestimate each boxer's stat and they can do on the fight against one another, though Alvarez is too young but if you take a look at his status, height, reach, wins, loss, not that too much difference with Floyd, right? This is something that you also consider.. and I think the younger the boxer is, the more resistance he has.. im just being fair!