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    What credentials does Alvarez have? I've been trying to understand the most logical way for Canelo to win this fight and I got a head ache!!! What boxing tactics does he have that can beat Floyd? And how can he carry what ever skills he has into the late round with stamina issues? I'm just trying to understand, is it really logical to think that he is gonna do a 360 and and become a fighter with stamina that really could outbox Mayweather? Or are we just gonna believe that Canelo is gonna go beast mode and KO Floyd? Cause I think Mayweather is gonna use that defense and stick and move and run the whole fight and win a lack luster performance. A performance where Canelo will win 3 rounds then he will get outboxed. I'd bet on that
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez credentials?

    Alvarez is career is on an accelerated pace. He's about to face the number 1 fighter in the world. What fighter does that at 22 years old? None of the recent top fighters did that. Not Mayweather. Not Pacquiao. Not Cotto. Not De La Hoya. Not Jones. At that age they were either still working there way up fighting bums or just barely taking out the aging champ in there division. None of them were in a fight this big at such a young age

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    I would like to see Canelo get through with some body shots that he has used to crumble a number of his opponents. That would certainly give him something to work on. Unfortunately I watched Canelos fight against Trout for the fourth time last night. Now Canelo did win the fight, the scores were ridiculous. It was a very close fight and Trout gave Canelo a lot of trouble. How much better is Floyd than Trout. Perhaps Canelo underwent some metamorphosis in training but the Canelo that fought Trout will not beat Floyd. I would still love to get this fight as strange things do happen and winning this fight would have such an impact on Canelo if he were to win he is going to go balls to the wall. Of course over forty fighters have done the same thing and the failed. Canelo imo has a better shot at winning than the last flock of Floyd's opponents. But we'll see how that works out.
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez credentials?

    Aside from the Trout victory, which was a very good win, Alavarez does not have a deep resume.

    He is a thinker in there and picks his punches.

    He's not going to outthink Floyd.

    I do think Alvarez has deceptive power and Mosley is not being 100% honest about Floyd's power being equal to Canelo's.

    IF Alvarez can land a good clean shot on Mayweather, then maybe he can follow up and get the upset.
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    Credentials?

    Well, according to an unnamed source, Canelo allowed Mosley to live.
    That's pretty damn impressive.

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    I understand that but I'm confused about what he actually do in the ring technically that Mayweather can't handle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Credentials?

    Well, according to an unnamed source, Canelo allowed Mosley to live.
    That's pretty damn impressive.
    Allowed him to live? -_- oooookkkkk

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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez credentials?

    This fight will go just like all of Floyd's other fights. Floyd will look at him for a couple of rounds and then start picking him apart, I don't see why he would change this pattern.
    Canelo will be applying cautious aggression for the first round or so and then try to step it up from the third or so.
    I think Floyd is as good as he will ever be, not everyone is a Floyd Mayweather but on the other hand not everyone is a Bernard Hopkins, so I see Floyd slowing a little every fight from now on. Floyd is an amazing fighter, athlete, with an amazing boxing IQ and is as dedicated a gym rat as you'll see. Did I say Floyd is amazing? but everyone has to deal with age, it could be this fight or a couple of fights from now.
    Canelo's biggest chance is Nacho Beristain. If there is a fault in Floyd's boxing, Nacho is one who can see it.
    I don't think Floyd has any faults in the ring, he is poised, always in position, doesn't make big mistakes and does not lose concentration.
    Unless Nacho has something up his sleeve, it's going to be up to Floyd whether Floyd wins or not, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Credentials?

    Well, according to an unnamed source, Canelo allowed Mosley to live.
    That's pretty damn impressive.
    Loooool

    Thats the violent one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    This fight will go just like all of Floyd's other fights. Floyd will look at him for a couple of rounds and then start picking him apart, I don't see why he would change this pattern.
    Canelo will be applying cautious aggression for the first round or so and then try to step it up from the third or so.
    I think Floyd is as good as he will ever be, not everyone is a Floyd Mayweather but on the other hand not everyone is a Bernard Hopkins, so I see Floyd slowing a little every fight from now on. Floyd is an amazing fighter, athlete, with an amazing boxing IQ and is as dedicated a gym rat as you'll see. Did I say Floyd is amazing? but everyone has to deal with age, it could be this fight or a couple of fights from now.
    Canelo's biggest chance is Nacho Beristain. If there is a fault in Floyd's boxing, Nacho is one who can see it.
    I don't think Floyd has any faults in the ring, he is poised, always in position, doesn't make big mistakes and does not lose concentration.
    Unless Nacho has something up his sleeve, it's going to be up to Floyd whether Floyd wins or not, in my opinion.
    Spot on.

    Floyd cant escape from the age issue but unlike holyfield, jones or mosely they never had the defence that floyd or hopkins had.

    Factor that in with floyds ability to not take much punishment he could go on to his early forties..who knows?!

    It must be so hard for him to call it a day as the millions he gets for every fight he just wont get that anywhere else!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    This fight will go just like all of Floyd's other fights. Floyd will look at him for a couple of rounds and then start picking him apart, I don't see why he would change this pattern.
    Canelo will be applying cautious aggression for the first round or so and then try to step it up from the third or so.
    I think Floyd is as good as he will ever be, not everyone is a Floyd Mayweather but on the other hand not everyone is a Bernard Hopkins, so I see Floyd slowing a little every fight from now on. Floyd is an amazing fighter, athlete, with an amazing boxing IQ and is as dedicated a gym rat as you'll see. Did I say Floyd is amazing? but everyone has to deal with age, it could be this fight or a couple of fights from now.
    Canelo's biggest chance is Nacho Beristain. If there is a fault in Floyd's boxing, Nacho is one who can see it.
    I don't think Floyd has any faults in the ring, he is poised, always in position, doesn't make big mistakes and does not lose concentration.
    Unless Nacho has something up his sleeve, it's going to be up to Floyd whether Floyd wins or not, in my opinion.
    I'd be tempted to say that this is incorrect, and that very early in the fight, as Mayweather opts to adjust on the fly, he isn't operating at 100%.



    That is Canelos best and probably only shot at beating Floyd, catching him out very early and stopping him. How likely that is of happening though is very low IMO as Floyd will probably be super cautious for the first few roundsnot allowing Canelo to get close at all, and probably for the entire fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMacMagician View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    This fight will go just like all of Floyd's other fights. Floyd will look at him for a couple of rounds and then start picking him apart, I don't see why he would change this pattern.
    Canelo will be applying cautious aggression for the first round or so and then try to step it up from the third or so.
    I think Floyd is as good as he will ever be, not everyone is a Floyd Mayweather but on the other hand not everyone is a Bernard Hopkins, so I see Floyd slowing a little every fight from now on. Floyd is an amazing fighter, athlete, with an amazing boxing IQ and is as dedicated a gym rat as you'll see. Did I say Floyd is amazing? but everyone has to deal with age, it could be this fight or a couple of fights from now.
    Canelo's biggest chance is Nacho Beristain. If there is a fault in Floyd's boxing, Nacho is one who can see it.
    I don't think Floyd has any faults in the ring, he is poised, always in position, doesn't make big mistakes and does not lose concentration.
    Unless Nacho has something up his sleeve, it's going to be up to Floyd whether Floyd wins or not, in my opinion.
    I'd be tempted to say that this is incorrect, and that very early in the fight, as Mayweather opts to adjust on the fly, he isn't operating at 100%.



    That is Canelos best and probably only shot at beating Floyd, catching him out very early and stopping him. How likely that is of happening though is very low IMO as Floyd will probably be super cautious for the first few roundsnot allowing Canelo to get close at all, and probably for the entire fight.
    The 2nd right hand is the one that buckled him and hurt him more. Either way he wasn't caught due to lack of concentration. Mosley just set him up. A quick jab that got Mayweather's attention and than the followed up right that Floyd never saw coming
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    Default Re: Canelo Alvarez credentials?

    alverez is fast, he has a good chin, he hits hard

    he is also bigger than floyd

    perhaps if he can be patient and take a reasonable amount of punishment and wait to land a/the big shots he can knock him out

    i dont see it happening but i think he has a better chance of beating floyd than anyone in recent memory
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    Canelo's best,and only great win, is over Trout. VD makes a good point though. He is only 22. It's crazy to think that he is fighting the best fighter in the world at 22. It's almost like Tyson. Even if he loses, he has 10 years of prime ahead of him. In fact, there's an argument he's not yet even in his prime?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Canelo's best,and only great win, is over Trout. VD makes a good point though. He is only 22. It's crazy to think that he is fighting the best fighter in the world at 22. It's almost like Tyson. Even if he loses, he has 10 years of prime ahead of him. In fact, there's an argument he's not yet even in his prime?
    True.
    But not everyones prime lasts that long.
    Canelo might loose every fight after this and call it a day.
    A loss this young might ruin or define him.

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