Thread: Trinidad, DLH, and Calzaghe likely to be inducted into HOF in 2014

Oscar De La Hoya, Felix Trinidad likely shoo-ins for Boxing Hall of Fame - ESPN

Possible all star HOF induction next year Trinidad, DLH, and Calzaghe are finally on their first year eligibility to be on ballot, would be an awesome weekend

Interesting.. DLH should be the first name on this post however lol. Calzaghe.. meh. Oscar and Tito at the same time, not sure how I feel about this quite yet. But they both deserve it. Say what you will about them but both of those fuckers had the balls to step out of their weight class and fight a no name Hopkins (to non boxing fans).. Why because Hopkins was the best at middle weight. Shame we don't have that many popular fighters like that anymore that fight the very best.

I give it five minutes before someone mentions Barry McGuigan's name

Ah shit

They all deserve to be in there how can anyone say different Sylvester Stallone was in there and Barry..

Sven Ottke deserves it more than Calzaghe

All 3 on the first ballot and deserving.

the boxing HOF is becoming a joke so they are all for sure in there. i hate how there always has to be a certain amount of people inducted every year. its ridiculous. there are so many undeserved fighters who are getting in or are being considered that are nowhere near the HOF level.

de la hoya for sure deserves to get in no matter not just because his skills and resume of fighters, but because what he did for boxing with his huge fights and his promoting company now. he can actually be given credit for making mayweather a cash cow.

tito deserves it but i would say is more on the lower tier of the people who actually deserve to be in there. he was dominant and was a great fighter and lost to the best 2 fighters he fought (bhop and de la hoya, and yes, he easily lost to de la hoya even though the judges disagreed). but he deserves to be in there.

calzaghe is probably about on the lowest tier of deserving to get in. he had a few solid wins but nothing great. most of his competition wasnt that good. he did dominate 168 for a long time though and beat pretty much everyone he should have.

but again, with the easiness of getting in now, they all more than deserve to be in.

I don't know what the HOF is all about really. Surely any fighter who has held a belt is going to get in at some point and considering belt expansionism, I am sure that it will at some stage be a considerable minority of the worlds population.

As for Calzaghe he would P4P slap Tito and DLH on the same evening and then show DLH how a real man handles his night out on the town. Tito in particular was a one trick pony and DLH had stamina issues. Calzaghe's only flaw was his autobiography and the first round on the downside of 30.

only the Golden Boy derserves it out of those 3. How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

Trinidad would be the second inductee on the list IMO. Great puncher, great heart, a bit shitty on the boxing ability and versatility, couldnt adjust in the ring, 1-dimensional, GOT HIS ASS LICKED REAL GOOD by ODLH and the whole world knows it. Got spanked and taught a boxing lesson that night against Oscar.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

Originally Posted by bzkfn

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

at least you didn't include the Jones fight cause that was a farce, and he "beat" Hopkins, I and many had B-Hop winning that fight, IMO he's (Calzaghe) a bit overrated but like you said he fought what was available at the time, but again, the super middleweight division and the 2 rounds surrounding it were pretty weak at the time, but that's just bad luck on Joe's part, if he was in his prime today with the level of opposition available today he'd have the chance to put a real stamp on his resume with no questions asked, IMO all 3 guys are worthy, 3 multi division champs, dominant, and good resume's, and all 3 were HUGE attractions and brought in HUGE crowds

Because those three fighters were so high profile they are virtual certs to get voted in. Which is a shame for the current retired most deserved fighter


Whoomp there it is!

Originally Posted by bzkfn

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

I hate James Toney and no I dont think he should be in.

Roy Jones was 39 years and 10 months old when the Italian Dragon fought him.
Bernard Hopkins was 43 years and 6 months old "................................"
Peter Manfredo is a joke.
UD over Sakio Bika (avg. judge's scorecard 116-111)
UD over Kessler (avg. judge's scorecard116-112)
Jeff Lacy was an overhyped 1-dimensional fighter who built up his record fighting New Jersey club fighters like Anwar Oshana, Omar Sheika, etc. and anybody decent whipped his ass like Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, etc.

How can you compare that with what Oscar did? Calzaghe never fought anybody like Vargas, Gatti, Mosely, Mayweather, Quartey, Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Mayorga. IN fact most of them would have blown him out.

But I like the way he threw slaps in bunches. He landed about 40 power punches in Rd. 1 against Byron Mitchell (yeah, true, 10 were rabbit punches and/or holding and hitting) and Mitchell was like "WTF? Is there a mosquito in here?" Then in Rd. 2 Calzaghe was ready to eat shit, he got whacked with a right hook that twisted his head halfway round and down he went. and the Mitchell got careless throwing all caution to the wind and left himself wide open. Any decent fighter would have finished Calzaghe in the 2nd round. He didnt even know where he was after Mitchell knocked him down, and was ripe for the picking. Calzaghe missed 2/3 of his punches trying to finish Mitchell, throwing arm punches and slaps very fast--- and what a shit stoppage that was! Mitchell was regrouping and landed a beautiful left hook and 2 straight right counterpunches on Calzaghe, and the ref stops the fight. The ring doctor himself told the ref that Mitchell was OK. Mitchell tripped on Calzaghe's feet after blocking 4 slaps, and stumbled back to the ropes. No punch even landed, their feet got tangled up. Bullshit win against a decent fighter.

Joe Calzaghe---like I said before, WAY overrated, arm puncher, very fast though, but too too many rabbit shots as in the clinch the southpaw can easily loop around and whack behind the head. Got away with far too many.

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by bzkfn

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

I hate James Toney and no I dont think he should be in.

Roy Jones was 39 years and 10 months old when the Italian Dragon fought him.
Bernard Hopkins was 43 years and 6 months old "................................"
Peter Manfredo is a joke.
UD over Sakio Bika (avg. judge's scorecard 116-111)
UD over Kessler (avg. judge's scorecard116-112)
Jeff Lacy was an overhyped 1-dimensional fighter who built up his record fighting New Jersey club fighters like Anwar Oshana, Omar Sheika, etc. and anybody decent whipped his ass like Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, etc.

How can you compare that with what Oscar did? Calzaghe never fought anybody like Vargas, Gatti, Mosely, Mayweather, Quartey, Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Mayorga. IN fact most of them would have blown him out.

But I like the way he threw slaps in bunches. He landed about 40 power punches in Rd. 1 against Byron Mitchell (yeah, true, 10 were rabbit punches and/or holding and hitting) and Mitchell was like "WTF? Is there a mosquito in here?"

Telling the same fibs over and over and over again does not equal truth. What it does equal is sincere delusion. Before he sparked out his hands he had one of the best ko %'s in boxing, dominated a weight class for a decade or more, never ducked anyone and would have been hell on earth for any fighter over the course of boxing history in the weight area including Jones.

Other then that, yeah he was pretty pedestrian.

Sven Otkke lmfao. You cant make up this shit.

Originally Posted by IamInuit

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

Originally Posted by bzkfn

Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust

How the fuck can you put Clazaghe in at the same time as ODLH who fought Trinidad, Vargas, Quartey, Hopkins, Mayweather, Chavez, Gatti, and a whole host of other great fighters.

What a load of shit. Calzaghe finished his career 46-0, dominated & won every world title in his division, beat Kessler, Hopkins, Eubank, Bika, Lacy (when you all thought he was the 2nd coming of Tyson). You can only beat what is in front of you and most americans were clammering for him to fight Dawson & Pavlik at the end of his career and both have been brutally exposed so you'd only be criticising his record still. Who didn't he fight? As far as skill goes, he one of the best naturally talented fighters to have graced the sport. I'm sure you'd be begging them to put a steroid cheat like Toney in when he's been retired for 5 years. Unbelievable.

I hate James Toney and no I dont think he should be in.

Roy Jones was 39 years and 10 months old when the Italian Dragon fought him.
Bernard Hopkins was 43 years and 6 months old "................................"
Peter Manfredo is a joke.
UD over Sakio Bika (avg. judge's scorecard 116-111)
UD over Kessler (avg. judge's scorecard116-112)
Jeff Lacy was an overhyped 1-dimensional fighter who built up his record fighting New Jersey club fighters like Anwar Oshana, Omar Sheika, etc. and anybody decent whipped his ass like Joe Calzaghe, Jermaine Taylor, etc.

How can you compare that with what Oscar did? Calzaghe never fought anybody like Vargas, Gatti, Mosely, Mayweather, Quartey, Chavez, Camacho, Trinidad, Mayorga. IN fact most of them would have blown him out.

But I like the way he threw slaps in bunches. He landed about 40 power punches in Rd. 1 against Byron Mitchell (yeah, true, 10 were rabbit punches and/or holding and hitting) and Mitchell was like "WTF? Is there a mosquito in here?"

Telling the same fibs over and over and over again does not equal truth. What it does equal is sincere delusion. Before he sparked out his hands he had one of the best ko %'s in boxing, dominated a weight class for a decade or more, never ducked anyone and would have been hell on earth for any fighter over the course of boxing history in the weight area including Jones.

Other then that, yeah he was pretty pedestrian.

Sven Otkke lmfao. You cant make up this shit.

KOs against who?? Anybody a Grade-A fighter? Name the great KOs. I mean seriously, Branko Sobat? Will McIntyre? Kabery Salem? Oh and my favourite of the lot, Tocker Pudwill! It makes me laugh when criticism of Calzaghe is lazily put down to "American jealousy". Could you imagine if the likes of Floyd Mayweather or Oscar De La Hoya had continuously defended their titles against opponents of the caliber of Pudwill and McIntyre? They would have been savaged by the US boxing media. quality challengers like Robin Reid (who he narrowly beat), and Byron Mitchell (who dropped him and should have easily finished him) were the exception rather than the rule. My point is: Where was the craving for the big fights and willingness to travel Stateside that Ricky Hatton had? This is what Calzaghe should have been doing. Going over to America and demanding the big fights, as well as dumping the weak WBO title. But, like I said earlier, Joe seemed happy just to stay at home and pick up easy paychecks.