Thread: Dereck Chisora now faces Kevin"Punchbag" Johnson

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Johnson takes this

If Johnson is fit I agree. He leap frogs in to the rankings on a relatively big stage.

I like Chisora. He's fun and has a good attitude for boxing.

He as kept himself busy and got some good results last year but he hasnt looked great doing it and against who?

Malik Scott is as good as anyone Fury has fought thus far. Being fair to Chisora, Avila & Scott & Pala were not the original opponent he was training for. He's done well for himself in the last year so I credit him for making himself relevent again. All this makes him a decent opponent for Fury at this stage.

I understand the idea is to showcase both of them before the rematch, but the choices of opponent are terrible. Fury will beat Basile with ease. He's a Hughie Fury level of opponent, but Tyson should be fighting someone better. Chisora is not going to look good fighting Johnson. It's a terrible main event and a terrible show.

Originally Posted by bzkfn

Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by El Kabong

Johnson takes this

If Johnson is fit I agree. He leap frogs in to the rankings on a relatively big stage.

I like Chisora. He's fun and has a good attitude for boxing.

He as kept himself busy and got some good results last year but he hasnt looked great doing it and against who?

Malik Scott is as good as anyone Fury has fought thus far. Being fair to Chisora, Avila & Scott & Pala were not the original opponent he was training for. He's done well for himself in the last year so I credit him for making himself relevent again. All this makes him a decent opponent for Fury at this stage.

I understand the idea is to showcase both of them before the rematch, but the choices of opponent are terrible. Fury will beat Basile with ease. He's a Hughie Fury level of opponent, but Tyson should be fighting someone better. Chisora is not going to look good fighting Johnson. It's a terrible main event and a terrible show.

Agree Malik Scott is better then anyone Fury has fought as is Helenius who Chisora was robbed against. Johnson could win but doubt he is gettin a decision so is a relative safe fight for Chisora

He should fight Tor Hamer at the same time.

Johnson could win 12 rounds to nil and he's still not winning this fight. Funny choice of opponent considering they are just selling a rematch with Fury.

Fury wins KO 1-2.
Chisora wins a 12 round borefest.

Malik Scott is better than anyone Fury has faced?

The logic in here is special

Who beat Scott? Oh yes Chisora! Who took Chisoras unbeaten record away

Fury made me laugh with all the crap everyone has said about Chisora not being in shape, he said something along the lines of "Chisora only had 4 months to get ready last time, this time hes had 2 years so hopefully hes now ready". Hahahahaha!!!

Johnson has the perfect style to beat a pressure fighter and a good chin. Chisora will start to fade more it's just the nature of his style. Now whether he'll get the call from the judges is debatable but I think he could pull this off

Originally Posted by Fenster

Johnson could win 12 rounds to nil and he's still not winning this fight. Funny choice of opponent considering they are just selling a rematch with Fury.

Fury wins KO 1-2.
Chisora wins a 12 round borefest.

Fury could do with the rounds. Won't get them. If Del stops Johnson, Fury will still carry on with the deluded belief that he is the real deal.

Originally Posted by ross

Malik Scott is better than anyone Fury has faced?

The logic in here is special

Who beat Scott? Oh yes Chisora! Who took Chisoras unbeaten record away

Fury made me laugh with all the crap everyone has said about Chisora not being in shape, he said something along the lines of "Chisora only had 4 months to get ready last time, this time hes had 2 years so hopefully hes now ready". Hahahahaha!!!

Chisora came in in excellent shape v Scott. He did not v Fury. If he came in to Scott fght in same condition as he did v Fury Scott woul dhave beat him. The logic makes sense

Apparently they're scheduled to fight on the same bill again in April before they actually meet. Maybe Fury will get the 12 round borefest next time and Chisora the easy KO job.

I'm more interested in seeing if these massive "stars," who will fill a stadium in the summer, can even pack the copperbox (7000 seats).

Chisora is only headliner because Billy Joe Saunders pulled out injured.

Originally Posted by Greenbeanz

Originally Posted by Fenster

Johnson could win 12 rounds to nil and he's still not winning this fight. Funny choice of opponent considering they are just selling a rematch with Fury.

Fury wins KO 1-2.
Chisora wins a 12 round borefest.

Fury could do with the rounds. Won't get them. If Del stops Johnson, Fury will still carry on with the deluded belief that he is the real deal.

Del boy won't stop Johnson

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Malik Scott is better than anyone Fury has faced?

The logic in here is special

Who beat Scott? Oh yes Chisora! Who took Chisoras unbeaten record away

Fury made me laugh with all the crap everyone has said about Chisora not being in shape, he said something along the lines of "Chisora only had 4 months to get ready last time, this time hes had 2 years so hopefully hes now ready". Hahahahaha!!!

Chisora came in in excellent shape v Scott. He did not v Fury. If he came in to Scott fght in same condition as he did v Fury Scott woul dhave beat him. The logic makes sense

Yeah ok...

If nothing else 4 months to prepare and lose to a feather fisted, fat, china chinned gypsy that punches himself proves that Chisora isnt that good.

Alot gets said about Chisoras shape but Furys body composition in his last few fights is massively different to the fighter Chisora faced a few years ago.

Chisora is the same shape almost, just smaller. I think being smaller will hurt him more than anything else against a huge man like Fury who knows how to use his size to make it rough and even when he wasnt as fit he could outwork Chisora.

If Johnson comes in shape, Chisora will look shite. Then what? Not only does Fury already have a good win over Chisora, he looked better against Johnson. Will it then be all ifs and buts again?

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Originally Posted by ross

Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe

Originally Posted by ross

Malik Scott is better than anyone Fury has faced?

The logic in here is special

Who beat Scott? Oh yes Chisora! Who took Chisoras unbeaten record away

Fury made me laugh with all the crap everyone has said about Chisora not being in shape, he said something along the lines of "Chisora only had 4 months to get ready last time, this time hes had 2 years so hopefully hes now ready". Hahahahaha!!!

Chisora came in in excellent shape v Scott. He did not v Fury. If he came in to Scott fght in same condition as he did v Fury Scott woul dhave beat him. The logic makes sense

Yeah ok...

If nothing else 4 months to prepare and lose to a feather fisted, fat, china chinned gypsy that punches himself proves that Chisora isnt that good.

Alot gets said about Chisoras shape but Furys body composition in his last few fights is massively different to the fighter Chisora faced a few years ago.

Chisora is the same shape almost, just smaller. I think being smaller will hurt him more than anything else against a huge man like Fury who knows how to use his size to make it rough and even when he wasnt as fit he could outwork Chisora.

If Johnson comes in shape, Chisora will look shite. Then what? Not only does Fury already have a good win over Chisora, he looked better against Johnson. Will it then be all ifs and buts again?

OK let me get this straight. By your logic a fat overweight Chisora who gassed after 2 rounds is better then the more recent in shape Chospra who beat Scott? Because he was heavier? Do you read what you write you absolute retard. Scott is better then Johnson and Cunningham. He would have beat the Chisora Fury fought because Chisora couldnt punch or move from the 3rd round. Are you that stupid you cant see that. Just watch the fucking fights.

If Johnson comes in in shape and Chisora looks shit so what? He'll still win and can just say its Johnson, most people look shit against him because he just focuses on going the distance. What if Chisora stops Johnson. Then is he better then Fury based on their performances against the same opponent?

Yes Fury has gotten into better shape recently but that has nothing to do with Chisora being in terrible shape for the first fight. Fury was still fit in the 1st fight the only difference now is that he may have more power and be a bit faster. If he was in this shape for the first fight he probably would have stopped that Chisora but that doesnt mean hell stop a fit Chisora.

Scott is better than Johnson?

If Johnson doesn't get stopped and he wont, hes instantly done better than Scott.

If Chisora looks shit then it proves that Fury was the better man all along because an "in shape" Chisora cant get past someone Fury did (and easier than Vitali according to Malik Scott).

Originally Posted by ross

Scott is better than Johnson?

If Johnson doesn't get stopped and he wont, hes instantly done better than Scott.

If Chisora looks shit then it proves that Fury was the better man all along because an "in shape" Chisora cant get past someone Fury did (and easier than Vitali according to Malik Scott).

So by your logic if Chisora stops Johnson is an inshape Chisora better then an inshape Fury? Because Fury couldnt stop him?

Yes Scott is far better then Johnson. Scott is a very good fighter who got robbed against a very good fight in Glazkov and was stopped in Bizarre fashion by Chisora.